FFVII REMAKE COMING TO PS4 ON MARCH 3 2020
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cold_spirit
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Need to get this all out before I go to bed:
1. It's interesting to me that the trailer chooses to highlight that Biggs is surprised by the explosion damage. I have a theory that in the Remake, Shinra will be well aware of AVALANCHE's operations and in fact assist them to further their own goals. Shinra needs a public enemy to justify the control they hold over the world, so they purposefully plant followup bombs to make the destruction worse and heighten public fear. Just throwing out a theory, I understand that the OG already has lore surrounding this with Jessie. It would also serve to lessen/remove the blood on AVALANCHE's hands from their terrorist actions, which maybe is a concern to SE in this modern day?
2. I do not like the Harry Potter dementors which haunt Aerith. Actually, they're fine, what I don't like is that Aerith will be clenching onto Cloud for help in the scene where she's introduced. Leaning into some lame tropes here. It has been talked about before on this site that SE's characterization of Aerith as a "pure maiden" is wrong and it doesn't look like that will change with the Remake.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that overall the trailer was dope.
1. It's interesting to me that the trailer chooses to highlight that Biggs is surprised by the explosion damage. I have a theory that in the Remake, Shinra will be well aware of AVALANCHE's operations and in fact assist them to further their own goals. Shinra needs a public enemy to justify the control they hold over the world, so they purposefully plant followup bombs to make the destruction worse and heighten public fear. Just throwing out a theory, I understand that the OG already has lore surrounding this with Jessie. It would also serve to lessen/remove the blood on AVALANCHE's hands from their terrorist actions, which maybe is a concern to SE in this modern day?
2. I do not like the Harry Potter dementors which haunt Aerith. Actually, they're fine, what I don't like is that Aerith will be clenching onto Cloud for help in the scene where she's introduced. Leaning into some lame tropes here. It has been talked about before on this site that SE's characterization of Aerith as a "pure maiden" is wrong and it doesn't look like that will change with the Remake.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that overall the trailer was dope.
The Twilight Mexican
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Great catch!
Maybe I understood wrong, but I always thought she'd pretty much come to a resigned acceptance of her heritage and powers before Cloud even met her. She, of course, was interested in learning more, but I never got the impression she was still denying who she was by then.
ForceStealer
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Dug the look at the clip of him busting into the train car, too. With Biggs and Barret opening the door when guns drawn (inasmuch as Barret's gun isn't always drawn 
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Damn, Biggs:
)Damn, Biggs:
Girl Named Captain
Lv. 25 Adventurer
Barrett's gun has a materia slot! Also, the Buster Sword's slots seem to have been made bigger than the last trailer.
Suzaku
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I really think the wraiths are supposed to be Jenova's fragments since they're specifically orbiting Sephiroth in the key art, and we know that this Sephiroth is just a projection of Jenova cells that he's controlling remotely. The wraiths will herald his arrival whenever he's going to appear, and over the course of the game, he'll leave them behind and they'll transform into the Jenova monsters to halt your pursuit.
Since the audience is going into the Remake knowing the major twists it would make sense for them to reframe and recontextualize those elements of the story. If they can't make those moments surprising, they can at least present them in new and novel ways to keep the experience interesting for old fans, and perhaps expand on the story in subtler ways.
Of course, purely speculative, but it makes sense to me. That's how I would personally like to see them handle the remake, at least, and it's similar to what Capcom did with RE2make. We'll hopefully find out more tomorrow.
Since the audience is going into the Remake knowing the major twists it would make sense for them to reframe and recontextualize those elements of the story. If they can't make those moments surprising, they can at least present them in new and novel ways to keep the experience interesting for old fans, and perhaps expand on the story in subtler ways.
Of course, purely speculative, but it makes sense to me. That's how I would personally like to see them handle the remake, at least, and it's similar to what Capcom did with RE2make. We'll hopefully find out more tomorrow.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
I see your thought process, but it's weird that only Aerith can see them. It seems like Cloud can't see them until she touches him. But he's the one with the Jenova cells.
UNLESS they're manifesting around Cloud and only Aerith can detect them, which is why it freaks her out, because she's never seen them before?
UNLESS they're manifesting around Cloud and only Aerith can detect them, which is why it freaks her out, because she's never seen them before?
Theozilla
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I agree she isn't denying them in the OG, but I personally got the impression she was hesitant/avoidant of discussing her Cetra heritage during the beginning of the game (i.e. mostly during the Midgar scenario section).
That's my guess for sure.
Odysseus
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I'll say, I like the ways they've "Punched-up" some of the returning scenes from the OG. Stuff like Biggs being in disbelief over how much destruction they caused, Biggs and Barret having their guns drawn before Cloud jumps in... It's small, but stuff like that adds a lot to the scenes.
Girl Named Captain
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It looks like the (now labeled) ATB gauge does charge based on combat engagement - in the combat sequence at :08, Barret's charges as he shoots, and makes a substantial leap up to a completed bar (and towards a 2nd) as he finishes with a heavier shot.
The Twilight Mexican
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Maybe that's the "twist" angle they'll work? Everyone thinks these things are haunting Aerith because she's the Cetra, but they're actually orbiting Cloud because he's been filled with Jenova and Sephiroth's influence -- it's just that Aerith's inherent abilities allow her to notice, whereas Cloud is usually oblivious.
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Cannon_Fodder
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I wonder what makes Cloud do that spinning attack at :28? My guess is either a directional input, or characters have different attack strings after dodging.
Girl Named Captain
Lv. 25 Adventurer
"Punisher" has been changed to "Punisher Mode," which clarifies that they didn't rename Braver. I wonder what it does...? Also, I wonder if they renamed Backblast into Overcharge, you don't see Backblast in this one at all.
LicoriceAllsorts
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I really hope this doesn't happen. Diminishing Avalanche's responsibility and making then "better" nice guys is the coward's way out.
Girl Named Captain
Lv. 25 Adventurer
I very much doubt this will be the case, as both Barret and Cloud's immediate reaction to the carnage is "that sucks, but we got some more violent terrorism to do, so let's mosey"
ForceStealer
Double Growth
Lovin' dat scuffed-up Buster Sword
Theozilla
Kaiju Member
Angeal must be spinning in anguish in the Lifestream.
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
Ok I don't hate it as much as I thought I would.
Still no Turks but they give us Heidegger??????
The Biggs fandom is going to swell.
Still no Turks but they give us Heidegger??????
The Biggs fandom is going to swell.
OdaDaimyO
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OMG... Charlie Sheen... is that you?Dug the look at the clip of him busting into the train car, too. With Biggs and Barret opening the door when guns drawn (inasmuch as Barret's gun isn't always drawn
Damn, Biggs:
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ForceStealer
Double Growth
Hm, lighting perhaps? What about here?
