Makoeyes987
Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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If not now then when?!?!
How much longer can they keep doing this to us?!
Think of Cloud's bottom, it deserves better!
FFVII REMAKE CONFIRMED
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If not now then when?!?!
How much longer can they keep doing this to us?!
Think of Cloud's bottom, it deserves better!
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
It deserves Reno!
Their swords clashed. Etc...
But seriously... just imagine, if only Cloud and Sephiroth had met earlier, and Sephiroth had felt truly loved by this soft chocobo chick, he would never have lost his shit in Nibelheim and so many lives would have been saved....
But also
Cloud would have been spared this betrayal.
Their swords clashed. Etc...
But seriously... just imagine, if only Cloud and Sephiroth had met earlier, and Sephiroth had felt truly loved by this soft chocobo chick, he would never have lost his shit in Nibelheim and so many lives would have been saved....
But also
Cloud would have been spared this betrayal.
MelodicEnigma
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Honestly, reading this with your profile pic has got me reeling XD
jazzflower92
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But seriously, I wonder how much chemistry pre-evil Sephiroth and Cloud would have had. Sephiroth and Cloud could have been the closet key to one another. Sephiroth being a demisexual and Cloud being bisexual.
Dee
sweet dee
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Haha, this is so nostalgic. Funnily enough, I was a huuuge fan of Cid/Vincent. I dunno why! It just worked for me, lol.
Misterbadguy
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CDJapan have just put up orders for a guidebook due to be released in March.
These pre-launch books are fairly common in Japan, but what's mostly interesting is that it will apparently include a new short novel written by Nojima.
These pre-launch books are fairly common in Japan, but what's mostly interesting is that it will apparently include a new short novel written by Nojima.
Glaurung
Forgot the cutesy in my other pants. Sorry.
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Returning briefly to the ship thing, I was a big offender back in the day, not gonna lie. Now not so much. Blame old age, perhaps 
. That whole "love can save anyone" thing, though, it might be well and good, but now I have a hunch that an alien, soul-controlling parasite entity intertwined with your DNA pretty much overrides any possitive emotion thrown at you. Just saying
. That whole "love can save anyone" thing, though, it might be well and good, but now I have a hunch that an alien, soul-controlling parasite entity intertwined with your DNA pretty much overrides any possitive emotion thrown at you. Just saying 
Erotic Materia
[CONFUSED SCREAMING]
I have a hard time shipping (that's still a weird word in my head, not used to it) characters solely because they're close/intensely intertwined. Zack and Cloud, for example. Playing through that game made me think, "Man, Zack is a really cool dude for taking care of his comatose buddy like that." It did not make me think, "Wow, those two should bone." I think a lot of my personal issue with some of these fanfic ideas is that the relationships feel forced onto the characters. Like, if someone is going to push the whole Clephiroth thing because they're "obsessed" with each other, you could turn around and say the Hojo and Aeris are also a likely pair, using the same general reasoning. But nobody ships poor sociopathic Hojo, because he's not a Calvin Klein underwear model like our boy Seph.
That was a weird rant, and it made me uncomfortable typing out. But there it is.
That was a weird rant, and it made me uncomfortable typing out. But there it is.
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
Rydeen
In-KWEH-dible
Can confirm. I only ship if I’m attracted to at least one of the characters. I may like the idea of a ship narratively and will think about how it would pan out, but I’m probably not gonna be motivated to read long fanfics unless I’m, well, thirsty. Conversely, some of the fanfics I’ve read may seem forced because my motivation is not necessarily aligned with canon or reasonability. In-character is still strongly preferred, though: it’s mostly the scenarios that err on implausible.
Edit: Lic, I’m not that surprised now that I’ve seen some people here on TLS hunger over the Hojo remake screenshot.
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MelodicEnigma
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As far as I'm concerned, shipping aligns often with the whole Rule 34. So I can't be surprised by any of the above at all lol I'm sure Hojo/Jenova is proliferating somewhere too.
jazzflower92
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Why would people do that to Vincent, Cloud,Lucrectia, Aerith, and especially Sephiroth? That's (sadly) his dad. All of them has got screwed (mind out of the gutters people) by him in some way or form. However, I agree Hojo's perfect pairing partner would Jenova, one is a predatory killer who knows no mercy and cares little for human life, while the other one is a parasitic alien from space. I am surprised anyone could hunger over the remake Hojo he looks even uglier than the Compilation depiction of him, because at least in that portrayal he looked groomed in comparison with what they are currently going for.
Also seriously if you are ever in a relationship with Sephiroth in an AU, it's probably always going to be to good to mind the fact that Hojo is going to be that person's father in law for better or worse.
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The Twilight Mexican
Ex-SeeD-ingly good
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Usually I think you lay your hate for Hojo on a little too thick, but I admit I laughed at the word choice here. Well done.
Rydeen
In-KWEH-dible
Some people just really like the grease. It is messed up to do that to the characters but it can be cathartic for people to live out messed up stuff through them to cope with their own negative emotions or trauma, which can also influence sexuality. They’re also not real people in the end (though it does feel like it sometimes).
It is messed up to do that to the characters but it can be cathartic for people to live out messed up stuff through them to cope with their own negative emotions or trauma, which can also influence sexuality. They’re also not real people in the end (though it does feel like it sometimes).
Glaurung
Forgot the cutesy in my other pants. Sorry.
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Back in the day, there was a fan site about Hojo. Subject Zero, or Number Zero, or something like that. It dealt almost entirely with worshiping the guy and pairing him. Can't say if it's still running. I think it had something to do with the whole "house of FFVII" case, but I might be mistaken.
There's no account for tastes. That's for sure.
There's no account for tastes. That's for sure.
Rydeen
In-KWEH-dible
The one where that girl assigned a character to each of her roommates and abused them? I also remember sparkles and poor hygiene in that story.
Dee
sweet dee
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Hahaha, oh my god yes. Such nostalgia.
jazzflower92
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Well, I still adhere to the original reason why Lurecia chose Hojo over Vincent, which is pity for his supposed inferiority complex. But seriously the fact that he actually has fans that are attracted to him has mystified me: in-universe and out-universe. I can't wait to see how the Hojo fangirls will be depicted in the remake.
Makoeyes987
Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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But that's an inherent bias, isn't it?
There's no question that Hojo did terrible things, was a terrible person, and clearly has a detestable temperament. However, that's only one facet of his personality. To the right person, or rather, a person adjacent or of a similar perspective of him, they're not as much a problem. One can argue the percentage that these negative traits take up of his total persona, but the simple fact remains that they are only a part of him, or at the very least, are multifaceted, especially to those who actually find value in these traits.
Which is not unheard of. People excuse all sorts of traits or behaviors in light of perceived positive traits.
Hojo is obsessive and driven by an insatiable lust for knowledge and research. For the outside viewer, with the gift of hindsight, it's clearly a negative trait, but to some like Lucrecia, President Shinra, the executive board and other Shinra scientists, they saw this as a strength of his.
Hojo would do whatever it took to get what he wanted, ethical or moral limits be damned. To Shinra and those close to him, this was acceptable and worthy of respect because the results were groundbreaking.
Hojo has a dark, witty and cutting sense of humor. He's intelligent, powerful, and willing to do whatever it takes for what interests him. It's really not that surprising Hojo would have people who saw these traits as not completely irredeemable as most would find, especially viewers with the hindsight of 20/20 hindsight and awareness to the overall plot. To those around him in Shinra, he's just an eccentric genius.
To the rest of the world, a madman who was dangerous and architect behind the darkness of Shinra.
There's no question that Hojo did terrible things, was a terrible person, and clearly has a detestable temperament. However, that's only one facet of his personality. To the right person, or rather, a person adjacent or of a similar perspective of him, they're not as much a problem. One can argue the percentage that these negative traits take up of his total persona, but the simple fact remains that they are only a part of him, or at the very least, are multifaceted, especially to those who actually find value in these traits.
Which is not unheard of. People excuse all sorts of traits or behaviors in light of perceived positive traits.
Hojo is obsessive and driven by an insatiable lust for knowledge and research. For the outside viewer, with the gift of hindsight, it's clearly a negative trait, but to some like Lucrecia, President Shinra, the executive board and other Shinra scientists, they saw this as a strength of his.
Hojo would do whatever it took to get what he wanted, ethical or moral limits be damned. To Shinra and those close to him, this was acceptable and worthy of respect because the results were groundbreaking.
Hojo has a dark, witty and cutting sense of humor. He's intelligent, powerful, and willing to do whatever it takes for what interests him. It's really not that surprising Hojo would have people who saw these traits as not completely irredeemable as most would find, especially viewers with the hindsight of 20/20 hindsight and awareness to the overall plot. To those around him in Shinra, he's just an eccentric genius.
To the rest of the world, a madman who was dangerous and architect behind the darkness of Shinra.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
Agreed, I always thought it was pretty easy to understand what a scientist like Lucrecia would see in Hojo. Someone who matched her ambition and passion (and lack of compunctions ) for science.
) for science.
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MelodicEnigma
Pro Adventurer
With all that being said, I never really got the impression that she like, chose Hojo in the same sense of some type of inner-love triangle conflict between Vincent and Hojo. Due to her characterization and the storytelling, it seemed to be more of a byproduct of her guilt/self-deprecating personality and the similar pursuit of scientific achievement that Hojo wanted. I don't think we get too much contextual introspection of her relationship with Hojo outside of what I feel is fitting for more of a "business transaction" for the sake of their experimentation, but who knows, maybe she always did have the hots for the man just as we know he did for her. I don't believe that was how it was presented, though. Surely there is some case of respect in regards to being a scientist, but nothing that seemed to truly justify her being with him in what didn't seem clouded by all the personal drama she herself initiated. By the end of it, all of it kind of feels like she used Hojo just as much as he did her.
It's interesting because from what we've seen (or read in regards to leaks), I'm looking forward to what they're doing with Hojo's character. He's just meant to be the type of character he is and for what he wants to do. Lucrecia is interesting, but more in the conflicted type of way—this I've seen in some eyes, paints her really like her own type of "villain" in the series. This coupled with the drama surrounding her relationship with Vincent, I'm interested to see what they truly do with this for the Remake. Just, uhh, gotta wait a few more years to see that though, unless we're in for some weird story turn of events in Part 1. lol
It's interesting because from what we've seen (or read in regards to leaks), I'm looking forward to what they're doing with Hojo's character. He's just meant to be the type of character he is and for what he wants to do. Lucrecia is interesting, but more in the conflicted type of way—this I've seen in some eyes, paints her really like her own type of "villain" in the series. This coupled with the drama surrounding her relationship with Vincent, I'm interested to see what they truly do with this for the Remake. Just, uhh, gotta wait a few more years to see that though, unless we're in for some weird story turn of events in Part 1. lol
jazzflower92
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Agreed, I always thought it was pretty easy to understand what a scientist like Lucrecia would see in Hojo. Someone who matched her ambition and passion (and lack of compunctions
Until she realizes she's just as expendable as many of his other experiments. Even before being tossed to the side, Lucrecia was beginning to question the morality of everything while she was pregnant. She didn't when she was pregnant at first, but soon she learned fast that thinking Hojo's way just gets you more than you expected.