SPOILERS FFVII Remake Sequel/ DLC Leaks Discussion

The Twilight Mexican

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Tetsujin said:
DIdn't they say they showed people shit to verify? I went though the channel and that person claimed that several people can verify, including staff.
Like, has any of this been verified? I haven't seen word of it.

Because y'know. I have no patience for attention seekers. That shit should be banworthy. :monster:
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Ugh, I hate to dip my toes into this, but I hate letting the speculation run amok without weighing in even more.

I've not personally seen the dataminer's evidence, but I have now spoken to someone whom I trust who has (I will not name them). I've also been able to ascertain that this person is viewed as legitimate in the datamining community (I won't say how I arrived at this assessment).

In light of these conversations, and given that I have zero reason otherwise to think the dataminer would crucify their reputation for a brief moment of popularity on our little Discord ... I believe what they're reporting to be legitimate.

But then I'm just some dickhead on a FFVII fan forum who knows shit all about datamining, so I'm not sure how valuable my opinion actually is supposed to be. :wacky: But if anyone cares, I do believe it.
 
Theozilla

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Hmmm, even if the data-mining people are legitimate themselves, I still remain skeptical of how they are interpreting/reporting what they have purportedly discovered, especially since data-mined stuff doesn’t always equal stuff that will appear in the actual end product (this site’s own unused text series is a prime example of that, or how stuff from the demo leak differed from the final Remake build, like there being no darkness element in battle). Especially with how early in the Remake project as a whole we still are.
Also if none of these purported leaks eventually appear on the rest of the Internet after say like two months, I’d become even more skeptical (as there are multiple data-mining communities in the world).

Especially how context can include very important details. Like IIRC the stuff from the TLS Discord one of the purported pieces of leaked information is that Zack becomes a part of the party of the while Cloud is “injured”. However, with stuff like playable flashbacks being a thing, that can change the meaning, like if the playable parts of Zack could end up being like the Laguna parts in FFVIII. So Zack is technically “part of the party” in regards to the gameplay/menu mechanics, but it’s still in a different narrative context. Like Cloud being apparently “injured” could be a reference to when Cloud is suffering from Mako poisoning, perhaps playable flashbacks are planned during part of that time.
 
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Aphyo

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Lex said:
- Leaked dialogue of Zack re-uniting with Cloud & Co
- List of enemy names and bosses (most bosses from the OG)
- There seems to be a function in the VIIR launcher indicating other "parts" will launch from it, called "CC", "Part 2" and "Part 3". This may just refer to DLC.
- Crisis Core music is present in the files
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So, outside of the launcher showing what I am guessing are place holder titles (CC, Part 2, Part 3), whatever was data mined is most likely DLC content with the DLC being CC. So, then what is CC in this instance. The Zack dialogue supposedly indicating party interactions has me leaning toward the DLC being the alternate timeline with Zack carrying Cloud into Midgar. It makes sense since the assets to do that narrative are basically done.

I guess the DLC could cover Nibelheim to Midgar but that would A.) spoil Cloud's past and B.) make the Kalm flashback pointless. However, things that I thought would have not been spoiled in Part 1, were, so maybe Square will spoil Cloud's past, and heck, maybe Square doesn't even want to do the Kalm flashback. Ugh. Square possibly doing that should not have even crossed my mind, yet here we are.

Bad thoughts and worries aside, best guess, alternate timeline Zack having returned to Midgar.

I put way to much thought into this.
 
oty

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Aphyo said:
So, outside of the launcher showing what I am guessing are place holder titles (CC, Part 2, Part 3), whatever was data mined is most likely DLC content with the DLC being CC. So, then what is CC in this instance. The Zack dialogue supposedly indicating party interactions has me leaning toward the DLC being the alternate timeline with Zack carrying Cloud into Midgar. It makes sense since the assets to do that narrative are basically done.

I guess the DLC could cover Nibelheim to Midgar but that would A.) spoil Cloud's past and B.) make the Kalm flashback pointless. However, things that I thought would have not been spoiled in Part 1, were, so maybe Square will spoil Cloud's past, and heck, maybe Square doesn't even want to do the Kalm flashback. Ugh. Square possibly doing that should not have even crossed my mind, yet here we are.

Bad thoughts and worries aside, best guess, alternate timeline Zack having returned to Midgar.

I put way to much thought into this.
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I think that's exactly the deal tho. As Mako himself put it, leaks that are "right on the money", are very suspicious. I'm still very much on the fence about this, and I'm not finding much else to dig. Also weird. I mean, the DBZ:Kakarot datamining of the Gods Arc being planned DLC was out in a week, with a huge number of evidences towards it. And FFVIIR would be datamined like chocolate cake.
 
Odysseus

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I don't think I would mind Laguna style interludes with Zack. It could help build him up as this mysterious figure that the player learns more about as time goes on. I just cannot fathom how he would meet the, I guess, "main universe" version of the party without Cloud's head exploding like a grape.

I seem to recall a long time ago that somebody from square said they'd rather remake CC than port it, though I can't prove this. I wonder if that's related.
 
Clean Cut Chaos

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Odysseus said:
I don't think I would mind Laguna style interludes with Zack. It could help build him up as this mysterious figure that the player learns more about as time goes on. I just cannot fathom how he would meet the, I guess, "main universe" version of the party without Cloud's head exploding like a grape.

I seem to recall a long time ago that somebody from square said they'd rather remake CC than port it, though I can't prove this. I wonder if that's related.
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I would love to play CC for the first time. I'm guessing I would play the CC remake, love it, and then ironically get into conversations about how much better the OG CC was. And the mysterious cycle of life would continue.
 
X-SOLDIER

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Saven said:
I wouldn't mind a CC remake with this game's battle system. It would actually be fun this time around.
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That's interesting to think about, since the roulette system was designed specifically for portraying the moments of Zack's death, but if we're reaching the understanding of that tragedy via a different mechanism this time, that does seem like it's a good way to cover that overall content.

Master Bates said:
Does the leak say anything about Part 2's coverage?
But that would mean more Gackt...
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Given that Project G is already confirmed, I assume that's an inevitability already on some level.


Vis-a-vis the general topic:

I think that given the leaks so far, that structure seems pretty straightforward. Especially with the PS5 modular installation style, it makes sense that there's a single interface, where each of the games could be played just by installing the next "part" and only keeping what you need installed, and all functioning off of existing save data, so that each game plays more like it was a single disc of the original game. The interface worked well with FFXV, so it's not too surprising to see them set it up like this, since I think that means that on a PS5, it'd let you play the entire thing as if it were a single, massive game, while still allowing you to split it up structurally for being played on the PS4.

If that's the case, I think that the CC could be viewed as a sort of side-story that links up with Remake, but is presented within its own context as a way to explore what happened before in more detail, and not have to worry about fitting it into the narrative chronology. If we're gonna place the sort of "alternate timeline of defying Destiny" stuff into this framework, so that the main game maintains its continuity, but the decisions open up alternate scenarios in CC to explore that sort of "What If?" angle on things. I think that might be an interesting approach.

Also, this unified multi-part format means that when Red XIII is playable, it's likely that they'll update Part 1 to contain those elements as well, so it'd be interesting to see if the stuff I've been expecting with playable Red XIII might take the form of something that actually looks more like a massive content update, rather than DLC as it were.




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Master Bates

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Wow. That's interesting.

Maybe they might make it Laguna-style side quests after all. That point about decisions in the CC side quest potentially affecting the current events of the present timeline seem both equally exciting and iffy to me.

Is there word as to at what point in the OG story Part 2 is going to cover? I just can't wait to get to Cid.
 
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