FFVIIR Official Concept Art & Twitter Whatnots

[Erotic Materia]

An attacking navy, presumably. Which would make me question it's ability to rise up higher than the city so it can spin or shoot around the globe.

Hm.... you do make a pretty solid point there.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

In that case, what navy would be poorly directed enough to float directly towards the giant cannon rather than make landfall on any other side of that continent?

 

[ForceStealer]

Maybe there's something particularly valuable (either materially or strategically) on that side of the continent that would make it an ideal landing site for a navy which is why they put the cannon there in the first place to dissuade them from doing so. For instance, I dunno, a series of coves that go right up to a rich mythril mine? The other side of which is conveniently guarded by a giant fuck-off snake?

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I mean, presumably whomever would need to dispose of the human claimants before bothering with Scaley. And that brings us back to "Why the fuck would you try to land where the cannon is?" =P

 

[ForceStealer]

That's my point. The cannon could be there specifically to make sure no one does. But maybe the mines are tempting enough for people to have tried anyway.

 

[Jairus]

I don't that the mines would be a factor, considering the world's going to likely have a more realistic scale in the remake. That being the case, the mines would be much farther away from Junon - similar geographic layout, but much longer distances, with much more in between than what was in the original. So whatever Junon might be guarding would have to be relatively close to it, not basically a thousand miles away on the other side of the continent.

 

[Tetsujin]

Really reminds you that this is from a time where they just kinda threw together a couple of neat concepts rather than having thought-out coherent world building.

 

[ForceStealer]

I don't that the mines would be a factor, considering the world's going to likely have a more realistic scale in the remake. That being the case, the mines would be much farther away from Junon - similar geographic layout, but much longer distances, with much more in between than what was in the original. So whatever Junon might be guarding would have to be relatively close to it, not basically a thousand miles away on the other side of the continent.

But Junon wouldn't be guarding the mines directly, just access to all those coves that take you right up to them, which are just a bit to Junon's south.

Anyway, obviously what Tets said is true and my point was just that it was emblematic of Before Crisis' lack of pretty basic awareness about the game it was building off of, and part of why it's stupid I don't like it.

 

[Jairus]

Except that those coves, too, are likely to be much farther away from Junon in the remake. I see distances on the OG world map as being abstractions and not meant to be taken literally, especially with a Cloud the size of FFIV's Giant of Bab-il running around a world that we're supposed to believe only has a dozen or so settlements in total. But yeah, I would agree with the point about BC.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

That's my point. The cannon could be there specifically to make sure no one does. But maybe the mines are tempting enough for people to have tried anyway.

But that just brings me right back to "what navy would be poorly directed enough to float directly towards the giant cannon rather than make landfall on any other side of that continent?"

 

[ForceStealer]

Except that those coves, too, are likely to be much farther away from Junon in the remake. I see distances on the OG world map as being abstractions and not meant to be taken literally, especially with a Cloud the size of FFIV's Giant of Bab-il running around a world that we're supposed to believe only has a dozen or so settlements in total. But yeah, I would agree with the point about BC.

But if it's an abstraction, those coves could be literally anywhere relative to Junon. Closer or farther.

But that just brings me right back to "what navy would be poorly directed enough to float directly towards the giant cannon rather than make landfall on any other side of that continent?"

What are we disconnecting on here? I'm suggesting they built the cannon as a deterrent to keep opposing navies away from that side of the continent. If it were the mines they were protecting, the other side of the continent has the Zolom situation which would make landing on the Western side of the continent a much more appealing option. The cannon forces an opponent to make a difficult decision.

Put another way, why would any standing army (conventionally) attack a nuclear power in our world? They wouldn't. That's exactly why we have the missiles.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I'm assuming any military power with a noteworthy navy wouldn't have problems with a snake -- albeit a big one -- who isn't armed with machine guns.

But I'm also assuming any military power coming into that continent is there to fight Shin-Ra first and foremost.

 

[Jairus]

But if it's an abstraction, those coves could be literally anywhere relative to Junon. Closer or farther.

Not necessarily. Because abstraction generally implies that what you're seeing is only a representation of something much larger. It wouldn't make sense for the world to be smaller than what the game showed. It has to have some basis in realism in order to be believable.

 

[ForceStealer]

I'm assuming any military power with a noteworthy navy wouldn't have problems with a snake -- albeit a big one -- who isn't armed with machine guns.

But I'm also assuming any military power coming into that continent is there to fight Shin-Ra first and foremost.

I dunno, everyone seems pretty stunned at the one snake's death and just assumed Sephiroth did it, so the military doesn't seem to be taking them out regularly.
And I never took Wutai to be fighting on the same technological level as Shinra - hence the focus on materia. But a big source of Mythril have worked to level that disadvantage

 

[Makoeyes987]

The Mako Cannon was 100% for warding off any incursion from Wutai and aimed generally in it's direction. No other world power even exists in VII so there would be never even be a navy or anything at all to even try to invade

They built that cannon to potentially blow Wutai to heck and as a warning to any who would stand up to Shinra. It's the closest thing to Shinra's Death Star. xD

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Though that is logical, we don't really know if the cannon was built during the Wutai War or during the previous international war (when Shin-Ra developed the SOLDIER program and materia).

 

[Alex Strife]

And anyway, isn't Wutai closer to the East coast of Midgar's continent anyway, going from the other side?

 

[Erotic Materia]

...boy, these shots of Wall Market sure look pretty!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1240246824478400513

I certainly hope all those pretty lights don't get blown away by some cannon

 

[Odysseus]

I always kinda wished in Dirge that Vincent's journey up to the Shinra building took him through a ruined wall market, since that's how the party got up there originally. Finally getting to see the place in high quality is pretty nice.

 

[Maidenofwar]

So the FFVIIR novel is about Aerith's childhood, huh interesting.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

So the FFVIIR novel is about Aerith's childhood, huh interesting.

Whaaaaat? Where?

 

[Erotic Materia]

Whaaaaat? Where?

And will there be an English version? Homeboy can't read no japanese.

 

[Maidenofwar]

I read about it on shipper twitter this morning

 

[Odysseus]

And will there be an English version? Homeboy can't read no japanese.

Give it 10 or 20 years

 

[Erotic Materia]

Give it 10 or 20 years