Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age

[Fangu]

But to get to Nalbina you have to go through Rab, right? Towns break chains

Not sure what the best way to earn gil before Penelo leaves you is, probably killing random stuff in Giza and picking up the various chest there, selling the items in them (if it's not gil).

 

[Lex]

Nah you can get to Nalbina through the estersand/westersand passage, the scary one that makes the minimap all fuzzy in the original and made me terrified when I was younger (I think).

Looked it up and I think the earliest you can go there (through that route) is when Penelo joins, but this is before she leaves and then rejoins and her level is basically "fake" at this point so it's still doable, woot. I normally do it asap but might aswell wait until then ;-;

 

[Fangu]

Yeah, but if you do it before Penelo leaves, be sure to kill her first because I think she still takes the EXP? Even if she doesn't level up. At least I'm pretty sure it's like that for vanilla, do check if guests level for TZA, that might be a thing

Edit: "Not only is Penelo a hindrance as she sucks away half the EXP (making Dustia leveling take twice as long), quite often an extra party member has the habit of blocking the exit. Go figure. " And this they probably didn't change for TZA. So be sure to kill her.

 

[Fangu]

Digital Foundry comparison

Okay I completely overlooked this - that hover comparison thing is really really neat. Thanks!!

Edit: Still missing a bit of the crispness of PCSX2, but hey. Probably done deliberately.

 

[Flintlock]

So it looks like they tried to cover up the rough edges by blurring everything a bit. A common technique but still a bit of a shame. I still think this version looks great overall though.

 

[ForceStealer]

It's always funny to me how much the menus/text stands out to me in the various remasters of games. I never felt the menus were blurry before, but now they always just look so amazing.

 

[lithiumkatana17]

I am five minutes into the game and like I knew I would be, in job choice hell. I need time to map out who's getting what based on best job combos and optimal character animations before I commit to a playthrough. Thanks for providing that link Kimble, it's been interesting.

Only thing I need to know at this point is when do they unlock the second job choice?

Should be after Raithwall's Tomb.

Anyway, I'm about to go through the Sandsea, and I'm struggling on which path I want to take Ashe through. I almost wish I didn't make Vaan a Knight, because I would've loved to make Ashe a Knight/White Mage Combo, but we'll see. Penelo's already my Black Mage, and I'm thinking about making her my Time Mage as well. We'll see.

 

[Fangu]

So it looks like they tried to cover up the rough edges by blurring everything a bit. A common technique but still a bit of a shame.

Yeah, a lot of places it makes the newer version look sloppier. I did notice this comparison though, where clearly the newer textures look pretty good.

Also, lol, watching people stream their playthroughs of this game with the 2x/4x option is like watching complete chaos when they're fighting random mobs It's almost like they're playing the game completely differently than vanilla players did, like the insane speed makes it a completely different battle system Also I just saw a streamer riding a Chocobo in sprint at 4x. It was completely lol

 

[ForceStealer]

Yeah the 4x is a pretty hard to control... I feel like that's a better option for when you have gambits set to let the game grind itself. Until then I've stuck to 2x.

 

[Pixel]

Ordered a tv and PS4 pro to play this

Are the chest spawns the same? I usually go straight for the rod in the estersands ASAP and OP myself with just Vaan until about level 20.

 

[Fangu]

Ordered a tv and PS4 pro to play this

LEGENDARY

Also, no, chests are different in IZJS/TZA. Chests hold abilities, also, they hold specific items. When a chest is picked once, it turns to gil, iirc. Also, you don't need to zone twice away from a chest to make it respawn, just once. Which makes a huge difference.

 

[Fangu]

Oh, and about Fran's backflip - indeed confirmed by people I talked to on Twitch that she does indeed backflip when bare handed in vanilla. So that's that

 

[Tennyo]

I remember her doing the flip in the original game.

 

[Fangu]

I see several people making Fran White Mage/ Monk now that I have a feeling the suggestions listed here are becoming Flavour Of The Month. idk just an observation.

Edit: I'm drunk nevermind me I'm making up stuff in my head

 

[lithiumkatana17]

Ok, I've discovered that since the three different armor types are divided up between the 12 classes equally, that I'm going to be basing my job classes on that rather than losing my mind trying to figure out who does what. I'm a simple minded fuck who cba to micromanage and switch up armor every time I'm need characters to switch between their roles and the like.

So, Vaan and Basch are already my heavy armored guys, so the remaining two classes, Time Mage and Uhlan will go to them. I'm thinking Uhlan for Vaan's second class; I think I remember Fangu saying something in the past about that class being a good one for him.

Balthier and Fran are already using light armor, so Monk and Shikari will go to them; no idea who will get what yet.

Penelo's already my black mage, and and I haven't decided what I want to be Ashe's primary class... Although I suspect it will be White Mage before I leave the Sandseas.

 

[lithiumkatana17]

A nice article about how Matsuno's departure and how it impacted the development of FFXII.

http://www.finalfantasyunion.com/ne...rture-didnt-change-much-in-final-fantasy-xii/

If you cba to read the article, the main takeaway is that according to Katano, the change from Basch to Vaan happened early on development, before Matsuno left the project. That was surprising to hear, tbh.

 

[Russell]

I set up a handy Gambit:

Foe: HP = 100% then Steal

If you are only up against a single enemy you'll always try to steal from it once. But you have to keep an eye out when fighting a group or the player with the above gambit will try to steal from the same 100% HP enemy over and over.

I walked from Rabanastre to King Wraithwell's tomb; a bit of grinding.
Without even trying I ended up with 37 succulent fruit's that sell for 363 gil each. (You get these from the tomato headed things.)

Anyway 37 * 363g = 13,431g
With all the other loot I had I ended up with about 25,000g.

Undoubtedly there are better ways to grind gil but I found this myself.

 

[Fangu]

Okay, so Freddeh (XII streamer) is doing a challenge where he'll just use one job per character, no duplicate jobs allowed, plus he's picked the jobs by random, lol. Rules

I kind of feel like doing the same nao I'll probably write a small code snippet that draws the job for me while streaming. Not sure whether or not I'll allow the same job for two characters. I'm thinking I should, that will make the whole thing a lot more lulsy

 

[Joe]

If you write a code to assign all 12 jobs randomly, I too shall use it.

 

[Flare]

^I probably would too. I cba to go into deep strategy and pick the best job combos, I'd much rather just do it randomly and have fun with it

 

[Russell]

I can confirm you gain the option for a second job when you get the first Esper;

Spoiler: minor spoiler

In King Wrathwells tomb.

I dunno why i'm spoiler tagging it i'm fairly certain no here is playing this for the first time

 

[Pixel]

Are there any LPers worth watching for this? I tried watching someone, but he sounded like Napoleon Dynamite.

I dont really like speedruns, but someone who knows the game and where to get good equipment, strategies etc would be great.

 

[Fangu]

I tried watching Dansgame the other day but it was too frustrating to watch

There's a streamer called BlueHarvey who platinumed the game today. He's a little shouty at times but at least he knows the game pretty well

 

[Pixel]

I'm watching this guy, LemonEatingKow. Its his first time playing, but he's looking guides for certain things like job classes. And he's playing the way I would, overlevelling, etc.

 

[lithiumkatana17]

Jeez, people are platinuming this game already and here I am, only in the Giza Plains during the rains.