Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Spoiler Thread)
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Arianna
Holy, Personified
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- Katie; Seta.
A lot of the crystal references in this game are beliefs from metaphysics, maybe even science. I find that interesting. Things like memories and thoughts can be transferred and kept in crystals, that's at least semi-real thinking there. If someone else knows if it's more than just metaphysics - I don't want to say pseudo-science, but I don't even know if it's a hypothesis - please tell!
AvecAloes
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All of this. All of this so much. I agree with almost everything you have said. I mean, pretty much the only thing I don't agree with as much is that Alyssa was that bad. I didn't mind her. I didn't necessarily like her, but I didn't mind her. Make sense? But anyway.
Took me 22:47 to beat the final boss (target time 11:13?! Haaaaaaaa no). I got it on my second try, but I came very frikkin' close to everyone dying...that's when I discovered that sometimes, it's just better to let someone who has been wounded irreparably (or, at least, once you run out of wound potions because you're an idiot and didn't buy ANY before starting the final run) die and bring them back, because they come back without any wounds...so...yeah. Did that to all of the members of my party, actually. Ha. But geez. Also, all four boss fights at the end with their dick moves. Come on. I was yelling at the screen.
As for story, there were several things that I actually blinked at and thought (or said out loud, lol) "hm, didn't see that coming".
Like when Caius stabs Serah, and then at the end of the game when she dies.
Also....I've never really found myself getting caught up in shipping really...but....NoelxSerah all the way for me
sheens
Pro Adventurer
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- Sheens, Mooglet
So I finished it and I'm actually really sad
Noel's scream was heartbreaking and Hope's crying face was even worse. The Mog got all nearly dead. It was just too much in one sitting. I hope to god something resolves this very soon or else.
I just want a happy ending. I should have stayed with Fate and Freedom. To be honest, even though I love Noel and Mog, at least nobody is dead in Inception land.
Loved the game though. Of course I'll play post-game stuffs.
Noel's scream was heartbreaking and Hope's crying face was even worse. The Mog got all nearly dead. It was just too much in one sitting. I hope to god something resolves this very soon or else.
I just want a happy ending. I should have stayed with Fate and Freedom. To be honest, even though I love Noel and Mog, at least nobody is dead in Inception land.
Loved the game though. Of course I'll play post-game stuffs.
Marle
Pro Adventurer
- AKA
- Ava, Spike Spiegel, Stella Nox Fleuret, Altair Ibn-La'Ahad, Princess Zelda, Alice, Raven Roth, Faye Valentine, Tifa Lockhart, Khal Drogo
Splintered, I have some great respect for you and that post. I've seen a ton of bitching on the Snow/Serah fandom side (although I'm sure the Noel/Serah fandom has it's hands dirty too) but your post was actually enjoyable to read and had a lot of truth to it. 
For the most part, Zee speaks from my heart let me love you bby. But I just wanna make some comments I guess?
I disliked Snow in FF13. When Lightning punched him, I was glad someone did. So, in my opinion, I found Snow/Serah to be the opposite; like I was getting hammered with it throughout the entire game because of Snow. Like Zee said, SE takes canon and makes it way too melodramatic (I agree they did this to cloti too).
Maybe I'm alone on that but I felt like everything Snow did in that game revolved around Serah and no one and nothing else mattered and I just really, really wanted him to shut up. I felt like the whole time SE was going: IT IS OFFICIAL THEY WILL GET MARRIED WHAT'S CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND SUBTLETY? THEY MAKE OUT TO FIREWORKS SHUT UP AND TAKE IT.
And I greatly dislike pairings that are thrown in my face. Without actual development.
I know some people find what Snow does for Serah romantic but I guess to me, it was more like annoying?
Anywho. My hatred for Snow only grew in the sequel. I was willing to give him a shot, like I did with Serah, but he only further ticked me off.
I don't like how he treats Serah at all. I know it's nice of him to have believed in her but, like previously mentioned, she isn't some kind of trophy wife and her abilities in this sequel prove that. His first accusation to Noel is why he brought her along, like she's so incompetent and weak that she must always be sheltered.
He underestimates her and doesn't bring out the best from her in the way Noel does.
His main objective is to impress her and be this hero he thinks she wants. When in reality, all Serah wants is to be with him, regardless of the fact that he's a hero or not. He doesn't seem to get this and so hurts her a lot, more so than he might realize.
Snow's intentions may be good but his actions hurt the people he loves. Noel called him out on it and everything he said, despite it being a reflection to Caius, was absolutely correct about him.
I don't think Noel hates Snow because zomg ltd and jealousy. It was more a call out to his careless actions and the fact that Noel sees it as the whole Yuel-Caius thing.
As for Noel/Serah feels. I actually thought they had the more subtle romantic relationship in this game. I like how they treat each other like friends, comrades and more. I like how they can rely on each other. It makes them even more compatible as a couple, imo.
Noel brings out the best from Serah. He gives her this drive, a reason to keep fighting. His optimism is often the thing that reassures her and helps her not to give up. I think a pivotal moment between these two is when Noel realizes Serah's death is imminent and decides to give up everything to keep her alive. Including Yuel's fate.
But Serah adopts his strong will and tells him that she wants to keep fighting despite the risks because she wants to save his future. And he supports her all the way. Snow would have never let her do it.
I don't know. I just feel like Noel is the better man. I feel like yeah okay, it's established she loves Snow and Snow loves her and they'll get married and whatnot but I feel like they'd be doing it for all the wrong reasons.
Which is why I don't see how it's so far fetched that they may not be the canon couple by the end of the game?
One thing that leads me to sort of believe this is that Noel was the one at Serah's side when she died. I agree with everyone; that moment would have been highly pivotal to the Snow/Serah relationship and the fact that SE didn't bother...sort of tells me they really don't care too much for that ship?
GUH. In the end, I feel like Snow and Serah are more like the good friends who love each other and that Noel and Serah would make the better lovers.
To each their own I suppose.
For the most part, Zee speaks from my heart let me love you bby. But I just wanna make some comments I guess?
I disliked Snow in FF13. When Lightning punched him, I was glad someone did. So, in my opinion, I found Snow/Serah to be the opposite; like I was getting hammered with it throughout the entire game because of Snow. Like Zee said, SE takes canon and makes it way too melodramatic (I agree they did this to cloti too).
Maybe I'm alone on that but I felt like everything Snow did in that game revolved around Serah and no one and nothing else mattered and I just really, really wanted him to shut up. I felt like the whole time SE was going: IT IS OFFICIAL THEY WILL GET MARRIED WHAT'S CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND SUBTLETY? THEY MAKE OUT TO FIREWORKS SHUT UP AND TAKE IT.
And I greatly dislike pairings that are thrown in my face. Without actual development.
I know some people find what Snow does for Serah romantic but I guess to me, it was more like annoying?
Anywho. My hatred for Snow only grew in the sequel. I was willing to give him a shot, like I did with Serah, but he only further ticked me off.
I don't like how he treats Serah at all. I know it's nice of him to have believed in her but, like previously mentioned, she isn't some kind of trophy wife and her abilities in this sequel prove that. His first accusation to Noel is why he brought her along, like she's so incompetent and weak that she must always be sheltered.
He underestimates her and doesn't bring out the best from her in the way Noel does.
His main objective is to impress her and be this hero he thinks she wants. When in reality, all Serah wants is to be with him, regardless of the fact that he's a hero or not. He doesn't seem to get this and so hurts her a lot, more so than he might realize.
Snow's intentions may be good but his actions hurt the people he loves. Noel called him out on it and everything he said, despite it being a reflection to Caius, was absolutely correct about him.
I don't think Noel hates Snow because zomg ltd and jealousy. It was more a call out to his careless actions and the fact that Noel sees it as the whole Yuel-Caius thing.
As for Noel/Serah feels. I actually thought they had the more subtle romantic relationship in this game. I like how they treat each other like friends, comrades and more. I like how they can rely on each other. It makes them even more compatible as a couple, imo.
Noel brings out the best from Serah. He gives her this drive, a reason to keep fighting. His optimism is often the thing that reassures her and helps her not to give up. I think a pivotal moment between these two is when Noel realizes Serah's death is imminent and decides to give up everything to keep her alive. Including Yuel's fate.
But Serah adopts his strong will and tells him that she wants to keep fighting despite the risks because she wants to save his future. And he supports her all the way. Snow would have never let her do it.
I don't know. I just feel like Noel is the better man. I feel like yeah okay, it's established she loves Snow and Snow loves her and they'll get married and whatnot but I feel like they'd be doing it for all the wrong reasons.
Which is why I don't see how it's so far fetched that they may not be the canon couple by the end of the game?
One thing that leads me to sort of believe this is that Noel was the one at Serah's side when she died. I agree with everyone; that moment would have been highly pivotal to the Snow/Serah relationship and the fact that SE didn't bother...sort of tells me they really don't care too much for that ship?
GUH. In the end, I feel like Snow and Serah are more like the good friends who love each other and that Noel and Serah would make the better lovers.
To each their own I suppose.
Marle
Pro Adventurer
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- Ava, Spike Spiegel, Stella Nox Fleuret, Altair Ibn-La'Ahad, Princess Zelda, Alice, Raven Roth, Faye Valentine, Tifa Lockhart, Khal Drogo
Double post but yeah.
So my friends came over and they're all FF fans but don't own a PS3 (they're fans of the classics). Naturally, I decided to corrupt their fresh minds with FF13-2. 
So, I rant to them about the ending and next thing I know, they're asking to see it. I especially bitched about the Bahamuts. Honestly, I didn't think I could beat him again. It took me forever to kill him on my second try and the first try, well...I died.
So I told them I'd take out Caius but no promises on the Bahamuts. Worst case scenario, there's always youtube.
I used the exact same battle strategy that I had the last time I won. I'll go into detail if anyone would like to try it because IT ENDED UP BEING PRETTY MUCH FUCKING FLAWLESS AGAINST HIM THIS TIME AROUND. I killed Jet Bahamut. After defeating the twin bitches once.
Yeah, that's right. I killed him in the first round. No resurrecting happened and the only countdown attack he casted was gigaflare which was soft. I didn't use a single phoenix down. I used maybe two wound potions and one remedy on Serah.
I'll outline it if it would help anyone five star the battle (I kinda wish someone did it for me, maybe I wouldn't have died the first time
):
Leader: Serah
Party:
Serah
She just had medic at level 98 and had mastered the ravager role. Sentinel was about 84. I didn't really use any of the other roles for her but they were roughly in the 70s-80s. Her HP was about 7000 and I equipped her with accessories that mainly increased her HP (iron bangle, etc.). Her main weapon was the Gandiva.
Noel: He maxed out the com role and almost everything else was maxed. I only really used him as com, med or sentinel. His sentinel level was actually low (78) as was his med role (74). He had HP in the 8000 area. His accessories mainly increased his strength status (power wrist band, etc). His weapon was Grasitha.
Both Serah and Noel had 100 accessory points and five ATB segments.
Monsters I used had no infusions at all and were:
Bunkerbeast (Sentinel): About four crystarium spots away from being maxed.
Albino Lobo (Ravager): Maxed
Dragoon (Commando): Maxed
Paradigms (bolded were the ones I used in this fight specifically):
1)Serah (Rav) Noel (Com) Albino Lobo (Rav)
2)Serah (Sen) Noel (Sen) Bunkerbeast (Sen)
3)Serah (Rav) Noel (Com) Dragoon (Com)
4)Serah (Med) Noel (Med) Bunkerbeast (Sen)
5)Serah (Rav) Noel (Com) Bunkerbeast (Sen)
6) Serah (Sab) Noel (Com) Albino Lobo (Rav)
Strategy:
Starting the battle is easy; take out the two bahamuts and only really go into the med paradigm if a character is really close to death. For me, this was often my monster. The main paradigm I used against them was paradigm (1). And just cleaned the floor with them. They fall easy once staggered and you don't really need to heal because they don't do that much damage the first time you fight them.
Then, when Jet Bahamut enters the battle and casts every status ailment in the book, I remedy Serah and enter paradigm (4). With both Noel and Serah as healers, I focus mainly on getting everyone's HP up to a decent level and getting rid of poison (maybe insert a wound potion if the HP has been lowered by 40%). Don't spend a lot on the other status ailments, it'll take up too much time and they go away on their own without too much significance on the battle.
Once that's cleared, quickly shift into paradigm (1) and just keep attacking Jet Bahamut relentlessly. I don't heal unless a single character is literally less than 1000 HP away from death. Just don't stop. I learned this the hard way. Keep hitting him with everything you've got until the bitch is staggered. Enter the healing paradigm only when absolutely necessary.
If he's about to cast gigaflare, go into paradigm (2) quickly and then heal after as necessary in paradigm (4). If he's about to cast Judgement Blade, go into paradigm (2) quickly and heal after as necessary again, in paradigm (4). It is imperative not to waste time in healing so having two meds really helps. Again, I didn't really heal unless a character was near death.
After he's staggered, go into paradigm (1) and hand his ass to him relentlessly. DO NOT STOP. He should fall or, worst case scenario, his HP should be a measly amount that the second round you face him, he goes down real fast. If you can't beat him the first round, apply the same strategy again until he falls.
I beat him in a span of three minutes or so. Considering it took me nearly forty the last time, I was mind blown. And so were my friends. I looked like a liar >.>
BUT I GOT FIVE STARS AND EARNED THE TROPHY =DDDDD SO IT WAS WORTH IT
Any questions about the strategy I used, feel free to ask, guys.
So, I rant to them about the ending and next thing I know, they're asking to see it. I especially bitched about the Bahamuts. Honestly, I didn't think I could beat him again. It took me forever to kill him on my second try and the first try, well...I died.
So I told them I'd take out Caius but no promises on the Bahamuts. Worst case scenario, there's always youtube.
I used the exact same battle strategy that I had the last time I won. I'll go into detail if anyone would like to try it because IT ENDED UP BEING PRETTY MUCH FUCKING FLAWLESS AGAINST HIM THIS TIME AROUND. I killed Jet Bahamut. After defeating the twin bitches once.
Yeah, that's right. I killed him in the first round. No resurrecting happened and the only countdown attack he casted was gigaflare which was soft. I didn't use a single phoenix down. I used maybe two wound potions and one remedy on Serah.
I'll outline it if it would help anyone five star the battle (I kinda wish someone did it for me, maybe I wouldn't have died the first time
):Leader: Serah
Party:
Serah
She just had medic at level 98 and had mastered the ravager role. Sentinel was about 84. I didn't really use any of the other roles for her but they were roughly in the 70s-80s. Her HP was about 7000 and I equipped her with accessories that mainly increased her HP (iron bangle, etc.). Her main weapon was the Gandiva.
Noel: He maxed out the com role and almost everything else was maxed. I only really used him as com, med or sentinel. His sentinel level was actually low (78) as was his med role (74). He had HP in the 8000 area. His accessories mainly increased his strength status (power wrist band, etc). His weapon was Grasitha.
Both Serah and Noel had 100 accessory points and five ATB segments.
Monsters I used had no infusions at all and were:
Bunkerbeast (Sentinel): About four crystarium spots away from being maxed.
Albino Lobo (Ravager): Maxed
Dragoon (Commando): Maxed
Paradigms (bolded were the ones I used in this fight specifically):
1)Serah (Rav) Noel (Com) Albino Lobo (Rav)
2)Serah (Sen) Noel (Sen) Bunkerbeast (Sen)
3)Serah (Rav) Noel (Com) Dragoon (Com)
4)Serah (Med) Noel (Med) Bunkerbeast (Sen)
5)Serah (Rav) Noel (Com) Bunkerbeast (Sen)
6) Serah (Sab) Noel (Com) Albino Lobo (Rav)
Strategy:
Starting the battle is easy; take out the two bahamuts and only really go into the med paradigm if a character is really close to death. For me, this was often my monster.
The main paradigm I used against them was paradigm (1). And just cleaned the floor with them. They fall easy once staggered and you don't really need to heal because they don't do that much damage the first time you fight them. Then, when Jet Bahamut enters the battle and casts every status ailment in the book, I remedy Serah and enter paradigm (4). With both Noel and Serah as healers, I focus mainly on getting everyone's HP up to a decent level and getting rid of poison (maybe insert a wound potion if the HP has been lowered by 40%). Don't spend a lot on the other status ailments, it'll take up too much time and they go away on their own without too much significance on the battle.
Once that's cleared, quickly shift into paradigm (1) and just keep attacking Jet Bahamut relentlessly. I don't heal unless a single character is literally less than 1000 HP away from death. Just don't stop. I learned this the hard way. Keep hitting him with everything you've got until the bitch is staggered. Enter the healing paradigm only when absolutely necessary.
If he's about to cast gigaflare, go into paradigm (2) quickly and then heal after as necessary in paradigm (4). If he's about to cast Judgement Blade, go into paradigm (2) quickly and heal after as necessary again, in paradigm (4). It is imperative not to waste time in healing so having two meds really helps. Again, I didn't really heal unless a character was near death.
After he's staggered, go into paradigm (1) and hand his ass to him relentlessly. DO NOT STOP. He should fall or, worst case scenario, his HP should be a measly amount that the second round you face him, he goes down real fast. If you can't beat him the first round, apply the same strategy again until he falls.
I beat him in a span of three minutes or so. Considering it took me nearly forty the last time, I was mind blown. And so were my friends. I looked like a liar >.>
BUT I GOT FIVE STARS AND EARNED THE TROPHY =DDDDD SO IT WAS WORTH IT
Any questions about the strategy I used, feel free to ask, guys.
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Arianna
Holy, Personified
- AKA
- Katie; Seta.
Proto-Behemoth and his accompanying cat friends are pains in the freaking ass!!!
Toriyama-troll par excellence - except for the ending of the whole game.
Speaking of the ending, as I said before, I don't know how this game is truly going to end. I don't know how or what can be done 'cept bringing forth the gods...
Finishing the end wasn't too bad for me; the manual reveals a secret:
I'm not too sure how true it is though. I died about four to five times before I beat the full-dragon-form-x-3 Bahamut.
Sazh's story was fun, but... eh... I wish the card games could transfer over to the rest of the game. Chocolina:
See!!!
I finished the game with 148 fragments. Now to collect the others, see the rest of the endings, get my creatures leveled up, get Amodar (I got Lightning's crystal in the first or second Coliseum battle), and finally - hope for the best with the rest of the DLC.
... I do hope there will be a conclusion, other than what's been revealed.
Toriyama-troll par excellence - except for the ending of the whole game.
Speaking of the ending, as I said before, I don't know how this game is truly going to end. I don't know how or what can be done 'cept bringing forth the gods...
Finishing the end wasn't too bad for me; the manual reveals a secret:
the more fragments you have, the easier the final boss battle is supposed to be.
Sazh's story was fun, but... eh... I wish the card games could transfer over to the rest of the game. Chocolina:
I had a feeling that she was connected to the chocobo chick.
All creatures have souls!!!
I finished the game with 148 fragments. Now to collect the others, see the rest of the endings, get my creatures leveled up, get Amodar (I got Lightning's crystal in the first or second Coliseum battle), and finally - hope for the best with the rest of the DLC.
... I do hope there will be a conclusion, other than what's been revealed.
Marle
Pro Adventurer
- AKA
- Ava, Spike Spiegel, Stella Nox Fleuret, Altair Ibn-La'Ahad, Princess Zelda, Alice, Raven Roth, Faye Valentine, Tifa Lockhart, Khal Drogo
It's not necessarily easier because you collect more fragments but more because of the CP you get from collecting certain fragments. So ultimately, it's a higher level. I only had about 116 when I found the final battle easy. The time it took me 40 minutes, I had about 110 fragments.
But certain fragments can give you up to 30,000 CP and that makes a huge difference in stats.
At least, that's how I believe it works. :T
But certain fragments can give you up to 30,000 CP and that makes a huge difference in stats.
At least, that's how I believe it works. :T
Dana Scully
Special Agent
- AKA
- YACCBS, Legato Bluesummers, Daenaerys Targaryen, Revy, Kate Beckett, Samantha Carter, Matsumoto Rangiku
Yeah, I had a whole boatload of trouble with the Bahamut fight but I only had 60-some fragments. Which, in hindsight, was probably a bit of a mistake. Could've saved myself a lot of hassle if I'd just gotten a bit higher level.
Lumina
a pokémon.
- AKA
- Bayleef, Jessica
Today I finally captured Lightning and Amodar. Got two more trophies aanndd I'm trying to get the paradox ending where
But just when I was on my way Paradox Scope Caius appeared. I had to take a mental break before going full throttle on his ass.
Seeing Lightning in her old uniform... Makes me remember why I fell so in love with her on the first game. In my opinion I think that in personality/as a whole Lightning did a "downgrade".
Serah forgets about Noel.
Seeing Lightning in her old uniform... Makes me remember why I fell so in love with her on the first game. In my opinion I think that in personality/as a whole Lightning did a "downgrade".
Splintered
unsavory tart
I'm not sure if I want to say downgrade but I kind of agree with the sentiment. It's understandable because Lightning's character development basically finished in the first game so there would be less of her but there a few things I found weird...
Like how Lightning is almost so reverent of Etros which goes against the whole "Fuck you powers that be" that she had in the first game. That and her dialogue as a whole is awkwardly formal, which makes sense because she's ascended to a new level of existence of whatever, but it still clashes with how human she was in the first game.
*shrugs*
I finally did that Cactuar puzzle today and defeated all 3 of the massive Cactuars only to find out that I don't have the right artifact to open the time gate.
FUUUUUUUU-
So mad. >>
So I'm just going around all the time zones to look for those things Hope and Alyssa want which I tried to avoid in the first place because I REALLY don't want to go on some kind of lame "find the key " to progress into the game thing. >>
FUUUUUUUU-
So mad. >>
So I'm just going around all the time zones to look for those things Hope and Alyssa want which I tried to avoid in the first place because I REALLY don't want to go on some kind of lame "find the key " to progress into the game thing. >>
I know.... I was just hoping that I'll be able to shortcut and avoid trying to find what Hope and Alyssa want from all the timezones, some spheres or something....
meh / can't be fucked doing that kinda thing >:
Zee
wangxian married
- AKA
- Zee
really? i love her in xiii-2 because we see her embracing her maternal side that was a big part of her character in the first game
she even took time to adopt a moogle HOW CUTE IS SHE????
i mean she probably went more formal/distanced because she knew some epic level shit was going down but she still had her deadpan snarker/sarcasm thing going ("gonna get worse....") it's not like that part of her was totally forgotten.
Fangu
Great Old One
I think I used the Wild Artifacts in the totally wrong order
But that's the beauty of it - you can walk your own path in the game.
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
I have 159 fragments... the killing of every single monster in the game is going to take forever.
Zee
wangxian married
- AKA
- Zee
yeah i have the bestiary and the serendipity fragments left ugggggggggggh
so close so close to completion
i
must
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
That's what I'm doing. Also because I don't have that much time. I visit each area and start killing stuff. I also visit the steppe from time to time, just because I know it's longer to finish!! Still, I enjoy it actually.
Arianna
Holy, Personified
- AKA
- Katie; Seta.
How many are feeling the need or want to replay the game, from square one?
That's the issue with me. When I have completed everything... I don't feel much desire to replay the game. (DLC does not count.)
I still have fragments to collect, bestiary being one of them, but Serendipity's already been collected.
That's the issue with me. When I have completed everything... I don't feel much desire to replay the game. (DLC does not count.)
I still have fragments to collect, bestiary being one of them, but Serendipity's already been collected.
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Arianna
Holy, Personified
- AKA
- Katie; Seta.
I'm not 'hating on' XIII-2, but XIII had greater replay value. XIII-2... not so much. These are my opinions. Story-wise the game is weak, but game play makes it stronger.
I just wish that SE would come out and say if this world is truly dead and gone or what. All the DLC and stuff is interesting, but I really want to know if the story is done and we're just adding on or if there's a chance the world will escape its fate.
As for Snow and Serah... I don't like how Snow just grabs her at the beginning of 'The Future is Hope', but at the same time, she does the same to him in Sunleth Waterscape. I rather have Snow x Serah, just cause it's been there and I see no reason for it to really change.
Honestly, I'm kind of tired of the whole pairing drama, but I know I've gotten into it myself (Cloud x Tifa). Noel -> Serah -> Oblivious.
Snow is... I don't know what to say about how I feel XIII-2 portrayed his feelings. I felt the love was more for Vanille and Fang overall, with the original game characters.
I just wish that SE would come out and say if this world is truly dead and gone or what. All the DLC and stuff is interesting, but I really want to know if the story is done and we're just adding on or if there's a chance the world will escape its fate.
As for Snow and Serah... I don't like how Snow just grabs her at the beginning of 'The Future is Hope', but at the same time, she does the same to him in Sunleth Waterscape. I rather have Snow x Serah, just cause it's been there and I see no reason for it to really change.
Honestly, I'm kind of tired of the whole pairing drama, but I know I've gotten into it myself (Cloud x Tifa). Noel -> Serah -> Oblivious.
Snow is... I don't know what to say about how I feel XIII-2 portrayed his feelings. I felt the love was more for Vanille and Fang overall, with the original game characters.