Final Fantasy XV (was Versus XIII)

[ForceStealer]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/foodanddrink/kyoto-vertical-farm-spread/index.html

 

[Lulcielid]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/foodanddrink/kyoto-vertical-farm-spread/index.html

How does it relate to FFXV?

 

[Tetsujin]

See the above conversation

 

[Shademp]

I can easily see a giant, magic-powered city becoming self-sufficient. There is such a thing as growing vegetables underground or inside buildings using only artificial light. Same deal with growing animals. Add magic and you have an even more conceivable scenario.

I assume that FFXV doesn't provide an explanation on its own? Different fictional universes go different lengths in their world-building and there is no set rule book for "once you reach this level of graphical realism you must check this-and-that item in order for the tapestry to function". It comes back to the science + art of video game design (and story-telling in general). Due to this alchemy, it's perfectly understandable that some will consider it a failure that FFXV doesn't explain the logistics of a city being self-sufficient for 30 years, while some will not see this as a problem at all.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/foodanddrink/kyoto-vertical-farm-spread/index.html

I was looking for this but I couldn't find the correct term! That's exactly where my mind went as well.

 

[lithiumkatana17]

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN WISHING

SHE'S ON HER WAY

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

That really should have been the first one they made after the bros. Awesome.

Surely food vendors in a big city like that might have other ways of getting shipments of food in that don't involve farming inside the wall. Maybe some of them moved into Insomnia years ago and kept contacts in Lestallum or some crap.

I don't feel like the potential for this particular idea is there. Hammerhead isn't all that far from Insomnia, but Cidney laments that everyone living outside the city didn't have the daemon-warding headlights prior to the Wall being scaled back, and says that all that could be found outside Insomnia after that were things that were already outside Insomnia.

We also know that Cidney has been haunted for 20 years by witnessing the death(s) of motorist(s) who didn't have these headlights. And we know she isn't too fearful for her own safety to make long journeys into dangerous areas to acquire car parts. Surely, in all these years, she would have made the relatively short trip to Insomnia to pick up some of these lights that would keep people safe on the road at night?

Added to that, it shouldn't be a surprise for Ignis that Ebony coffee isn't exclusive to Insomnia if it's being imported from outside.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult. I just don't think it rings true. Of course, your main point here is the important one:

There are plenty of ways to easily explain how Insomnia never had a food shortage in 30 years.

With all the possibilities, one really has to work a lot harder to conclude there is a problem.

(This conversation does raise an important question, though, about the circumstances in which one can leave the city. Does Regis personally have to make an opening in the Wall? And how did

Spoiler: (Kingsglaive spoiler)

Drautos/Glauca confer with the empire when he needed to? Did he not have to leave the city to do so? How did Ardyn get into the city to speak with him 10 years ago in the first place?

)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/foodanddrink/kyoto-vertical-farm-spread/index.html

Very nice! Thanks for showing us that. Those buildings along Insomnia's outskirts could be similar facilities.

 

[lithiumkatana17]

That really should have been the first one they made after the bros. Awesome.

Surely food vendors in a big city like that might have other ways of getting shipments of food in that don't involve farming inside the wall. Maybe some of them moved into Insomnia years ago and kept contacts in Lestallum or some crap.

I don't feel like the potential for this particular idea is there. Hammerhead isn't all that far from Insomnia, but Cidney laments that everyone living outside the city didn't have the daemon-warding headlights prior to the Wall being scaled back, and says that all that could be found outside Insomnia after that were things that were already outside Insomnia.

We also know that Cidney has been haunted for 20 years by witnessing the death(s) of motorist(s) who didn't have these headlights. And we know she isn't too fearful for her own safety to make long journeys into dangerous areas to acquire car parts. Surely, in all these years, she would have made the relatively short trip to Insomnia to pick up some of these lights that would keep people safe on the road at night?

Added to that, it shouldn't be a surprise for Ignis that Ebony coffee isn't exclusive to Insomnia if it's being imported from outside.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult. I just don't think it rings true. Of course, your main point here is the important one:

There are plenty of ways to easily explain how Insomnia never had a food shortage in 30 years.

With all the possibilities, one really has to work a lot harder to conclude there is a problem.

(This conversation does raise an important question, though, about the circumstances in which one can leave the city. Does Regis personally have to make an opening in the Wall? And how did

Spoiler: (Kingsglaive spoiler)

Drautos/Glauca confer with the empire? Did he have to leave the city to do so? How did Ardyn get into the city to speak with him 15 years ago?

)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/foodanddrink/kyoto-vertical-farm-spread/index.html

Very nice! Thanks for showing us that. Those buildings along Insomnia's outskirts could be similar facilities.

Yes, but did the demons not become MORE frequent after the events in-game took place? Stop asking 'why' and start asking 'why not'?

Btw, there are plenty of theories about Glauca and all that, just gotta look for 'em. Honestly, that is THE biggest plothole in the FFXV universe, seriously. We're quibbling here about food sources, but trying to figure out that guy and Insomnia and Niflheim is like trying to nail jello to a tree.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Yes, but did the demons not become MORE frequent after the events in-game took place?

I'm not sure I follow your question. Could you ask it another way, please?

Btw, there are plenty of theories about Glauca and all that, just gotta look for 'em. Honestly, that is THE biggest plothole in the FFXV universe, seriously. We're quibbling here about food sources, but trying to figure out that guy and Insomnia and Niflheim is like trying to nail jello to a tree.

I confess I've not looked for any. I've been assuming that

Spoiler: ("Kingsglaive" spoilers)

Regis killed the original Glauca without realizing it during the opening of the movie, and Ardyn came to Drautos a couple of years later to ask him to take up that identity. When and how, though, I don't know.

We do know Drautos was from outside Insomnia, though, and that he also ventured outside the city as captain of the Kingsglaive. Perhaps he went to visit his hometown about ten years ago or the Kingsglaive failed to defend it around the same time, and Ardyn approached him then, reminding him that King Morus had scaled the Wall back and Regis had never expanded it again.

 

[Lulcielid]

Square-Enix E3 2017 livestream schedule.

Day: Wednesday 14
Livestream: "Final Fantasy XV Universe"
Time: 1:00AM BST / 5:00PM PDT

 

[lithiumkatana17]

Yes, but did the demons not become MORE frequent after the events in-game took place?

I'm not sure I follow your question. Could you ask it another way, please?

Um... I literally can't reword this to make it sound any simpler.

The lore guide in the tutorial of the game states that the number of daemons has grown in recent years, while the nights have grown longer... which leads me to believe they weren't sprouting out of the ground in droves until we got closer to the game's timeline, when it's clear that the Oracle's power is waning. Does it make sense now?

Btw, there are plenty of theories about Glauca and all that, just gotta look for 'em. Honestly, that is THE biggest plothole in the FFXV universe, seriously. We're quibbling here about food sources, but trying to figure out that guy and Insomnia and Niflheim is like trying to nail jello to a tree.

I confess I've not looked for any. I've been assuming that

Spoiler: ("Kingsglaive" spoilers)

Regis killed the original Glauca without realizing it during the opening of the movie, and Ardyn came to Drautos a couple of years later to ask him to take up that identity. When and how, though, I don't know.



We do know Drautos was from outside Insomnia, though, and that he also ventured outside the city as captain of the Kingsglaive. Perhaps he went to visit his hometown about ten years ago or the Kingsglaive failed to defend it around the same time, and Ardyn approached him then, reminding him that King Morus had scaled the Wall back and Regis had never expanded it again.

Spoiler

You said 'outside Insomnia' like the region he's from (Cavaugh)
isn't literally right next to it. I've been under the impression that Cavaugh has been a Lucian territory this whole time, just annexed/taken over by the Empire. For 30-some odd years.

 

[null]

(This conversation does raise an important question, though, about the circumstances in which one can leave the city. Does Regis personally have to make an opening in the Wall? And how did

Spoiler: (Kingsglaive spoiler)

Drautos/Glauca confer with the empire when he needed to? Did he not have to leave the city to do so? How did Ardyn get into the city to speak with him 10 years ago in the first place?

)

Through the same hole that lets in the pouring rain, I suppose.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Yes, but did the demons not become MORE frequent after the events in-game took place?

I'm not sure I follow your question. Could you ask it another way, please?

Um... I literally can't reword this to make it sound any simpler.

The lore guide in the tutorial of the game states that the number of daemons has grown in recent years, while the nights have grown longer... which leads me to believe they weren't sprouting out of the ground in droves until we got closer to the game's timeline, when it's clear that the Oracle's power is waning. Does it make sense now?

It does.

But the fact that there was demand for something like those headlights to be produced 30+ years ago -- and that the havens existed as far back as for

Spoiler: (Dave sidequest spoilers)

Dave to have been too young (if he was even born yet) to be aware that his aunt was exiled for brewing potions to strengthen them

-- says to me that daemons have been considered a common problem for a great many years, even if they weren't necessarily always popping out from under every last rock the way they do during the game.

Even if the daemons hadn't proliferated until the past few weeks, though, I'd find it a hard pill to swallow that consummate mechanic/automobile enthusiast Cidney hadn't taken a simple drive out to Insomnia to acquire special car parts for her own edification. If anything, daemons only recently becoming a problem would have made this trip she didn't take easier, so there's no reason for her to have never done it if she could.

And again, Hammerhead being as close to Insomnia as it is, how would decades of trade have been going on without the closest outpost catching wind of it? That really defies plausibility.

Spoiler

You said 'outside Insomnia' like the region he's from (Cavaugh)
isn't literally right next to it. I've been under the impression that Cavaugh has been a Lucian territory this whole time, just annexed/taken over by the Empire. For 30-some odd years.

I'm unsure where you're going here (apologies for that making twice in a row now), but I called attention to "outside Insomnia" because that entails outside the Wall, and our goal here was to pinpoint when

Spoiler: ("Kingsglaive" spoilers again)

Ardyn and Drautos could speak without the barrier preventing it. Either Drautos had to go outside the Wall for Ardyn to approach him (an occurrence that may be explained by one of those scenarios I threw out there with my previous post) or Ardyn had to somehow pass through the Wall undetected and without being granted access (which raises all kinds of questions).

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Looks like the Off-road Regalia is on the way this month: http://gematsu.com/2017/06/final-fa...egalia-dlc-episode-prompto-launches-late-june





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[Lulcielid]

 

[lithiumkatana17]

I just saw a trailer about the XV universe and its expansion, saw some nice clips from Episode Prompto. Looks like you'll be driving a snowmobile in it.

EDIT:

Evidently it's dropping June 27th.

 

[Tetsujin]

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Prompto being 2 weeks away is exciting. I'm mega nervous about the likely Episode Ignis tease at the end. :3





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[lithiumkatana17]

Prompto being 2 weeks away is exciting. I'm mega nervous about the likely Episode Ignis tease at the end. :3





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I can't wait either. Here's to hoping it looks tragic AF.

 

[Lulcielid]

I would like to see stuff like this more often from other gamea.

Spoiler

edit:

 

[Lulcielid]

Directly from FFXV Universe livestream, Episode Prompto main campain will be 2 hours long, it will have various side missions, which will increase the lenght.

 

[Ryuman]

Also from the stream, Global Brand Manager Raio Mitsuno advises us to look forward to Gamescom in August for more updates on additions to the Final Fantasy XV Universe

 

[Lulcielid]

6 minutes preview of Episode Prompto:

 

[Tashasaurous]

6 minutes preview of Episode Prompto:

Really can't wait for this one! Looks serious but awesome!

 

[lithiumkatana17]

Directly from FFXV Universe livestream, Episode Prompto main campain will be 2 hours long, it will have various side missions, which will increase the lenght.

See this pisses me off right here. Prompto gets these extra side missions to increase the experience of the story in his DLC but Gladio doesn't get shit except a fight against Cor and a scored Trial mode.

All in all, the footage looks pretty good.

Love Prompto in his bomber jacket, flak, and little beanie.

Also from the stream, Global Brand Manager Raio Mitsuno advises us to look forward to Gamescom in August for more updates on additions to the Final Fantasy XV Universe

Yes!! I will be tuning in for that!

 

[Tashasaurous]

Directly from FFXV Universe livestream, Episode Prompto main campain will be 2 hours long, it will have various side missions, which will increase the lenght.

See this pisses me off right here. Prompto gets these extra side missions to increase the experience of the story in his DLC but Gladio doesn't get shit except a fight against Cor and a scored Trial mode.

All in all, the footage looks pretty good.

Probably because they couldn't think of a way to extend Gladio since where he is...well, it lacked other people besides Cor. The only people that were there were just dead people threatening to kill them. Besides, what else can you do in a beautiful but desolated place like Gilgamish's trials?

I think Episode Ignis will be short too as well as Lunafreya's. Not sure about Ardyn's though. Maybe that'll be the longest out of all of them when it comes to DLC storylines.

Last time you briefly played a villian in the storyline(non-DLC) was Seymour in FFX.