Final Fantasy XV (was Versus XIII)

[The Twilight Mexican]

I ended up deciding to go with Chapter 1 first, after all, then -- pulling from the suggestions here -- go in this order:

-Dawn
-Kingsglaive
-Brotherhood
-Parting Ways
-Omen

For the DLC, we'll do "Episode Gladiolus" after he returns to the group. Not sure about "Episode Prompto" yet, but probably when he returns as well.

 

[ForceStealer]

What is Parting Ways again?

 

[Tetsujin]

https://cdn.sqexeu.com/files/ff15/main_site/public/novella/FFXV_Novel_ENG.pdf

 

[Flare]

I saw some of your live stream of the game last night, Tres.

It's really starting to make me want to play it again. Started getting FEELS.

 

[ForceStealer]

Wait tres is streaming this?

 

[X-SOLDIER]

I saw some of your live stream of the game last night, Tres.

It's really starting to make me want to play it again. Started getting FEELS.

I got a notification, but it said the stream had ended when I tried watching it.
Do you happen to have a link to it?





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[lithiumkatana17]

Here's Tres's Youtube Channel everybody.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThreeDaystoEternity

I told him he needs to get a headset so we can listen to him talk while he plays.

 

[ultima espio]

Found an Episode Prompto key art on reddit that I haven't seen before:

Spoiler

 

[Lulcielid]

The Xbox One X patch for the game is out, gives 4K enhancements to the game as well as increased hunt capacity (PS4 users will have to wait for the 10th to get the later).
https://twitter.com/FFXVJP/status/927484761110593538

Comrades will now release on the 15th of November.
https://twitter.com/FFXVJP/status/927487972227792897

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Aww.

Well, I guess that gives me more time to work on playing through the rest of the game between now and then.
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EDIT: bionborg at Reddit discovered these (potentially spoilery) hieroglyphics about FFXV in "Assassin's Creed: Origins":

Spoiler

Pretty neat. Not even a little bit subtle. XD

 

[Tashasaurous]

Comrades will now release on the 15th of November.
https://twitter.com/FFXVJP/status/927487972227792897

Why do I get the feeling due to this since Comrades was meant to be out today and before that out last week that the VR FFXV Monster of the Deep game will be delayed to next month and Episode Ignis will be delayed to January next year?

No offence, but this is just a little ridiculous. It's the saga of the original game being delayed all over again.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Comrades will now release on the 15th of November.
https://twitter.com/FFXVJP/status/927487972227792897

Why do I get the feeling due to this since Comrades was meant to be out today and before that out last week that the VR FFXV Monster of the Deep game will be delayed to next month and Episode Ignis will be delayed to January next year?

No offence, but this is just a little ridiculous. It's the saga of the original game being delayed all over again.

You'd only get that feeling if you're not really familiar with software development.

Online co-op multiplayer, VR, & storyline DLC have very different constraints and requirements. Comrades, Monster of the Deep, & Ignis are almost certainly not being worked on by the same teams. They'd be handled in different sprints, and likely have very few engineers or other people shared between them. Additionally – minor delays for additional content like this aren't even REMOTELY like the original game being delayed, ESPECIALLY when you're talking about delays to polish multiplayer on a previously single-player-only game.





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[Tashasaurous]

Comrades will now release on the 15th of November.
https://twitter.com/FFXVJP/status/927487972227792897

Why do I get the feeling due to this since Comrades was meant to be out today and before that out last week that the VR FFXV Monster of the Deep game will be delayed to next month and Episode Ignis will be delayed to January next year?

No offence, but this is just a little ridiculous. It's the saga of the original game being delayed all over again.

You'd only get that feeling if you're not really familiar with software development.

Online co-op multiplayer, VR, & storyline DLC have very different constraints and requirements. Comrades, Monster of the Deep, & Ignis are almost certainly not being worked on by the same teams. They'd be handled in different sprints, and likely have very few engineers or other people shared between them. Additionally – minor delays for additional content like this aren't even REMOTELY like the original game being delayed, ESPECIALLY when you're talking about delays to polish multiplayer on a previously single-player-only game.

It's not just because of the development, because I am aware what has to be done. I know this sounds completely crazy, but I'm getting a feeling that despite different teams that it'll cause more delays.

I could be wrong, but you never know. I mean, this is the last minute delay and I was actually expecting Comrades to be out today. This was just out of the blue.

It's like how I got the feeling that Agito+ for PS Vita would end up cancelled after a full year of complete silence...Or like how I got a bad feeling towards a car that was up for sale at a Car dealers a few years back that was so strong that I felt that there was something wrong with it, and when my parents and I gave it a test drive, it was junk. *Shudders*

Good thing we never bought that car after testing it out. The inside of it was disgusting, the engine and brakes made horrible noises.

But like I said, I'm talking about more of the timing of all three releases. Now that Comrades is out next week(if they don't delay it again), it's getting far too close to Monster of the Deep's release.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

You'd only get that feeling if you're not really familiar with software development.

Online co-op multiplayer, VR, & storyline DLC have very different constraints and requirements. Comrades, Monster of the Deep, & Ignis are almost certainly not being worked on by the same teams. They'd be handled in different sprints, and likely have very few engineers or other people shared between them. Additionally – minor delays for additional content like this aren't even REMOTELY like the original game being delayed, ESPECIALLY when you're talking about delays to polish multiplayer on a previously single-player-only game.

It's not just because of the development, because I am aware what has to be done. I know this sounds completely crazy, but I'm getting a feeling that despite different teams that it'll cause more delays.

I could be wrong, but you never know. I mean, this is the last minute delay and I was actually expecting Comrades to be out today. This was just out of the blue.

It's like how I got the feeling that Agito+ for PS Vita would end up cancelled after a full year of complete silence...Or like how I got a bad feeling towards a car that was up for sale at a Car dealers a few years back that was so strong that I felt that there was something wrong with it, and when my parents and I gave it a test drive, it was junk. *Shudders*

Good thing we never bought that car after testing it out. The inside of it was disgusting, the engine and brakes made horrible noises.

But like I said, I'm talking about more of the timing of all three releases. Now that Comrades is out next week(if they don't delay it again), it's getting far too close to Monster of the Deep's release.

Like I said before, that's clear that you have no idea how software development on different projects works if that's what you think. Plus, those DLC don't have competing audiences, so there's nothing negative about one of them coming out in close proximity to the other, especially since they're all very different experiences.

Also, Comrades was NEVER going to come out today. This announcement wasn't just out of the blue today. The DLC was originally going to come out on October 31st, but back a little more than two weeks ago on October 20th,
it was announced that Comrades was going to be delayed until early November, "Due to final adjustments & to create the best possible experience". There was never a specific date when "early November" was, so they just put out the official release date of the 15th today as the confirmed specific date.

There's literally no reason to blow this up into a big, crazy delay conspiracy theory.




On another note: There's an update on the 10th that'll apparently allow you to accept multiple quests:
https://twitter.com/FFXVEN/status/927510660107382785





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[Tashasaurous]

Like I said before, that's clear that you have no idea how software development on different projects works if that's what you think. Plus, those DLC don't have competing audiences, so there's nothing negative about one of them coming out in close proximity to the other, especially since they're all very different experiences.

Also, Comrades was NEVER going to come out today. This announcement wasn't just out of the blue today. The DLC was originally going to come out on October 31st, but back a little more than two weeks ago on October 20th,
it was announced that Comrades was going to be delayed until early November, "Due to final adjustments & to create the best possible experience". There was never a specific date when "early November" was, so they just put out the official release date of the 15th today as the confirmed specific date.

There's literally no reason to blow this up into a big, crazy delay conspiracy theory.


On another note: There's an update on the 10th that'll apparently allow you to accept multiple quests:
https://twitter.com/FFXVEN/status/927510660107382785

Well, wasn't there another report that it was being released on the 7th of November after they delayed the 31st release? I know I saw something like that somewhere last week.

And I was talking about the timing and the costs, because Monster of the Deep is being released on the 21st of this month, and that's just one week after Comrades' new release, and then only a week or two later, Episode Ignis is being released for the 13th of next month, and December's usually the most expensive when it comes to buying anything due to Christmas.

How on earth can FFXV players afford and have time to play both in less than one week?

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Well, wasn't there another report that it was being released on the 7th of November after they delayed the 31st release? I know I saw something like that somewhere last week.

And I was talking about the timing and the costs, because Monster of the Deep is being released on the 21st of this month, and that's just one week after Comrades' new release, and then only a week or two later, Episode Ignis is being released for the 13th of next month, and December's usually the most expensive when it comes to buying anything due to Christmas.

How on earth can FFXV players afford and have time to play both in less than one week?

Nope. There wasn't ever any announcement about it being released on the 7th. That's why it's only reported and announced today. If anyone said anything otherwise, it was just baseless guessing based on the words, "early November" in the delay announcement.

If you have the Season Pass – you already get Comrades & Ignis. There's no extra cost there at all. Also, as Multiplayer DLC, and story-centric DLC they'd occupy completely different times when you'd be playing them: "when you have other friends available" and "immediately as soon as it drops so that you don't get spoiled."

For Monster of the Deep, it's a VR experience (which means the number of people who have the setup is VASTLY smaller), AND it's standalone, so it's the only additional purchase (outside of the Season Pass which most XV players who get those DLC already has), so it's likely the only one that's an additional cost as a barrier of entry. As a VR game, it's also going to occupy a different amount of time playing it – since most VR-centric things are best for smaller chunks of time (at least when I've played them).

It's not like we're talking about them releasing new 40 hour games a week apart from one another. These experiences – even released in close proximity – aren't impeding on what the other offers insofar as time required or monetarily.

You're making a big deal over literally nothing since there isn't even any remote hint of delay in the other two titles whatsoever at this point in time.




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[Tashasaurous]

Well, wasn't there another report that it was being released on the 7th of November after they delayed the 31st release? I know I saw something like that somewhere last week.

And I was talking about the timing and the costs, because Monster of the Deep is being released on the 21st of this month, and that's just one week after Comrades' new release, and then only a week or two later, Episode Ignis is being released for the 13th of next month, and December's usually the most expensive when it comes to buying anything due to Christmas.

How on earth can FFXV players afford and have time to play both in less than one week?

Nope. There wasn't ever any announcement about it being released on the 7th. That's why it's only reported and announced today. If anyone said anything otherwise, it was just baseless guessing based on the words, "early November" in the delay announcement.

Pretty sure I saw somewhere along the lines that there was a report saying that Comrades was coming out today.

If you have the Season Pass – you already get Comrades & Ignis. There's no extra cost there at all. Also, as Multiplayer DLC, and story-centric DLC they'd occupy completely different times when you'd be playing them: "when you have other friends available" and "immediately as soon as it drops so that you don't get spoiled."

For Monster of the Deep, it's a VR experience (which means the number of people who have the setup is VASTLY smaller), AND it's standalone, so it's the only additional purchase (outside of the Season Pass which most XV players who get those DLC already has), so it's likely the only one that's an additional cost as a barrier of entry. As a VR game, it's also going to occupy a different amount of time playing it – since most VR-centric things are best for smaller chunks of time (at least when I've played them).

It's not like we're talking about them releasing new 40 hour games a week apart from one another. These experiences – even released in close proximity – aren't impeding on what the other offers insofar as time required or monetarily.

The VR game is still gonna be pretty pricy, though. And since it's a seperate game, I'm betting it'll be pretty close to $30 or $40 or even $50. Heck, most of the new other games here are ridiculously close to over $80, if not over that.

Plus, the VR game is still a FFXV game even if it's not story canon, and players would want to get their hands on both that and Comrades, plus other games to think about that are coming out before the end of the year.

You're making a big deal over literally nothing since there isn't even any remote hint of delay in the other two titles whatsoever at this point in time.

Like I said, I could be wrong, but you never know. None of us really have an idea what's really going on with Square unless we go and work there ourselves. *Shrugs*

 

[Lulcielid]

The Nov 7th released date was mentioned during a Twitch stream between youtuber mrhappy1227 and Mat Kishimoto (senior marketing manager at Square Enix America)
https://youtu.be/Lvh60DqZRgE

However, neither Square's press site nor their social accounts said Comrades new release date until this morning.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

You're making a big deal over literally nothing since there isn't even any remote hint of delay in the other two titles whatsoever at this point in time.

Like I said, I could be wrong, but you never know. None of us really have an idea what's really going on with Square unless we go and work there ourselves. *Shrugs*

No, we have PLENTY of idea of what goes on at SE without working there: Right now they're making those three things and releasing them when they're currently slotted to be released.

They released all their previous DLC on time, and the one that involves a completely new thing: online multiplayer. That was delayed for what was ultimately two weeks (typically about one Sprint for most software dev teams). This is because if you're looking at improving launch stability for online play, that's 100% the most critical time for new/returning players to form an opinion of it, and it's dealing with complexities that nothing else they've made for the game has done so far, so a small delay to tighten that up is completely the right move.

That's ZERO basis to go making claims that everything else that they're working on are going to be delayed from this, but they're just not talking about it – ESPECIALLY since the Episode Ignis trailer that contained its release date was shown 10 days AFTER the Comrades delay was announced. If there were going to be KNOWN delays because of release date proximity concerns, they would've been addressed all at once, and especially before showing off Monster of the Deep & Ignis again with release dates attached.


This self-admittedly crazy claim has just as much merit as – if Monster of the Deep underperformed slightly in sales when it releases – that they'd cancel Episode Ignis due to overall disinterest in FFXV, backed up because, "none of us REALLY knows what goes on without working there."


Until there's actual EVIDENCE of something affecting the other DLC, don't go to extreme conclusion jumping over Comrades postponing their launch.



EDIT: Also, the Monster of the Deep preorder is $29.99, so there's no need to speculate on it being potentially prohibitively pricey (especially since having the PSVR to be able to play it at all is already its own barrier of entry).





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[Tashasaurous]

The Nov 7th released date was mentioned during a Twitch stream between youtuber mrhappy1227 and Mat Kishimoto (senior marketing manager at Square Enix America)
https://youtu.be/Lvh60DqZRgE

However, neither Square's press site nor their social accounts said Comrades new release date until this morning.

Ah. That explains everything. Thanks, Lulcy.

You're making a big deal over literally nothing since there isn't even any remote hint of delay in the other two titles whatsoever at this point in time.

Like I said, I could be wrong, but you never know. None of us really have an idea what's really going on with Square unless we go and work there ourselves. *Shrugs*

No, we have PLENTY of idea of what goes on at SE without working there: Right now they're making those three things and releasing them when they're currently slotted to be released.

They released all their previous DLC on time, and the one that involves a completely new thing: online multiplayer. That was delayed for what was ultimately two weeks (typically about one Sprint for most software dev teams). This is because if you're looking at improving launch stability for online play, that's 100% the most critical time for new/returning players to form an opinion of it, and it's dealing with complexities that nothing else they've made for the game has done so far, so a small delay to tighten that up is completely the right move.

That's ZERO basis to go making claims that everything else that they're working on are going to be delayed from this, but they're just not talking about it – ESPECIALLY since the Episode Ignis trailer that contained its release date was shown 10 days AFTER the Comrades delay was announced. If there were going to be KNOWN delays because of release date proximity concerns, they would've been addressed all at once, and especially before showing off Monster of the Deep & Ignis again with release dates attached.


This self-admittedly crazy claim has just as much merit as – if Monster of the Deep underperformed slightly in sales when it releases – that they'd cancel Episode Ignis due to overall disinterest in FFXV, backed up because, "none of us REALLY knows what goes on without working there."

Until there's actual EVIDENCE of something affecting the other DLC, don't go to extreme conclusion jumping over Comrades postponing their launch.

EDIT: Also, the Monster of the Deep preorder is $29.99, so there's no need to speculate on it being potentially prohibitively pricey (especially since having the PSVR to be able to play it at all is already its own barrier of entry).

I'm sorry. I only said that I wondered why I'm getting the feeling. I didn't even automatically say that they will get delayed, because I am hoping that I'm wrong about the feeling. But at the same time, it's best not to fully expect the release dates completely when they could easily announce a delay at anytime like they sometimes do these days, like with Comrades or the actual FFXV game last year for example.

Plus, not everyone will be wanting to preorder Monster of the Deep or other games that are up for preorder anyway, because some would like to buy it at stores the chance they get.

 

[Lulcielid]

 

[X-SOLDIER]

My main point is Possibility ≠ Probability.

There's no sense in worrying over what's possible, only over what's probable. It's POSSIBLE any of that could happen, but that's ultimately meaningless. It's highly improbable that any of the other release dates will be altered as a result of the Comrades delay — for all of the myriad reasons I mentioned.



@Lulcy: Well that's just excellent to know! It's odd that the Warp Strikes are so detrimental, especially because so many of them have really interesting / useful changes to how the Warp Strikes work.

Personally, I just keep them around for the stat bonuses most of the time, and use the Shield Warp Strike to hit huge clusters of enemies (like in the exact scenario shown where you shouldn't). Yeah, it messes up my health, but the Black Hood means that I can auto-dodge most damage after to make it a non-issue, and taking that damage boosts the meter to use all the Royal Arms and get MP for free a lot more quickly.

Then again, I am fully content to just Ragnarok around most of the time, too.





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[lithiumkatana17]

Then again, I am fully content to just Ragnarok around most of the time, too.

RAGNAROK

RAGNAROK

RAGNAROK

RAGNAROK

 

[JechtShotMK9]

So, it's been a year. Was kinda lukewarm towards the game after the initial "OMG IT'S HERE" phase, but I'm giving it another chance. Doing the whole multimedia experience, thanks to the list X provided above. Did Dawn, Brotherhood, and Omen yesterday, Kingsglaive today, the novel thing on Thursday and Friday, and starting the game next Monday, with all the DLC.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

So, it's been a year. Was kinda lukewarm towards the game after the initial "OMG IT'S HERE" phase, but I'm giving it another chance. Doing the whole multimedia experience, thanks to the list X provided above. Did Dawn, Brotherhood, and Omen yesterday, Kingsglaive today, the novel thing on Thursday and Friday, and starting the game next Monday, with all the DLC.

I'm so excited to see how you feel about itttttttt~





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