Final Fantasy XV (was Versus XIII)
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Tashasaurous
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Oh, they'll announce the delay with KH2.8 to next year soon enough, either this month or next month. I guarantee it. Because Nomura said that KH2.8 was going to be released in early December. But now that FFXV is releasing on the 29th of November, it's too close to each other and people won't be able to afford them if fans are fans of both games.
And I was seriously wishing for KH3 to come out in 2017. NOW I have to wait for another two years all over again to the point that they'll keep saying another two year delay until they decide to eventually just cancel the game. It's a never ending frustrating saga.
Wolf_
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I genuinely believe that square is a non profit organisation. They make rise of the tomb raider "you can't buy that, sir. We're going to sell it to a bunch of people that don't even like tomb raider instead." Then they advertise the new hitman. I think to myself, that looks good. Never played hitman. "Again, I'm sorry, Sir. We can only give ou 10% of the game and then we'll give you the rest bit by bit." Oh, wow! Is it soo big that it won't fit on a single disk?! "No we just like to get the money before we bother finishing games these days." Now this! If this isn't the greatest fucking game that's ever been created it will be a let down.
Marcus
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I don't mind the wait, to be brutally honest. This is getting really really repetitive these days however. I feel like these days instead of giving us a release dates companies should just say "Released Whenever" then we won't have to get our hopes up only to be let down later down the line.
This game better be god damn perfection Square. Perfection!
Tennyo
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Maybe 2.8 for a month or two because of conflicting release times but this doesn't mean KH3 Will be dalayed, especially not for two years.
Can you please just calm down? I feel like you have had this freak out multiple times in multiple threads...
Strangelove
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i'm fine with this delay because i don't have money for it anyway so more time is good
lithiumkatana17
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I'm actually glad the delay is official. My wallet needs a reprieve.
But I can see people's frustration, I really can. Especially if they've booked time off work to play it. At least be glad they announced it more than a month ahead of time. Paraphrasing something a friend of mine recently said 'I'd rather it be delayed than be released on time with more bugs than an Ubisoft game.' I'll choose to echo this sentiment and be content with the new release date.
I suppose I shall have to tide myself over with something else from the SE store for my birthday next month. Decisions, decisions....
But I can see people's frustration, I really can. Especially if they've booked time off work to play it. At least be glad they announced it more than a month ahead of time. Paraphrasing something a friend of mine recently said 'I'd rather it be delayed than be released on time with more bugs than an Ubisoft game.' I'll choose to echo this sentiment and be content with the new release date.
I suppose I shall have to tide myself over with something else from the SE store for my birthday next month. Decisions, decisions....
Lulcielid
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The digital download of FINAL FANTASY XV can potentially require 45 GB or More HDD Space on PS4.
Source: http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/08/15/final-fantasy-xv-requires-45-gb-or-more-hdd-space-on-ps4/
With the recent confirmation of the delay it´s unknown how much the digital size of the final game will increase with the many tweaks and updates the game will receive prior to the new release date.
Source: http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/08/15/final-fantasy-xv-requires-45-gb-or-more-hdd-space-on-ps4/
With the recent confirmation of the delay it´s unknown how much the digital size of the final game will increase with the many tweaks and updates the game will receive prior to the new release date.
Kuja9001
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I can actually not be depressed when the Ult Edition drinks up that large sum of cash from my card since I'll have enough savings.
lithiumkatana17
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*BANSHEE SCREECH*
lithiumkatana17
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Hey, FFXV is delayed, but here's the first 12 minutes of Kingsglaive!
First impressions:
During these 12 minutes I have wanted to tear up and have also laughed my ass off. I suppose this must be a good thing.
Starts with a small but nice opening montage that explains everything leading up to the present day. And if the beginning is any indication of how the rest of the action sequences will be, it looks like we're in for a pretty wild ride.
Now if you'll excuse me I haveto destroy Jotunheim go and review this frame by frame to look at more details on Crowe's outfit.
First impressions:
During these 12 minutes I have wanted to tear up and have also laughed my ass off. I suppose this must be a good thing.
Starts with a small but nice opening montage that explains everything leading up to the present day. And if the beginning is any indication of how the rest of the action sequences will be, it looks like we're in for a pretty wild ride.
Now if you'll excuse me I have
lithiumkatana17
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DO LET'S 
Especially if there are those who'd like to avoid the risk of spoilers. Let's put temptation in its own thread, shall we?
Especially if there are those who'd like to avoid the risk of spoilers. Let's put temptation in its own thread, shall we?
Tashasaurous
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In case you probably forgot, December is the last month of a year every year. Because the next month after that is the first month of a new year. Since Nomura wanted to release a KH game every year, 2.8 was originally going to be released in 2016 since it's the last game before KH3 which was strongly aimed for 2017.
Now because of the delay of FFXV, there'll be no KH game for 2016, 2.8 will be moved up to 2017, and thus, KH3 will be forced to move up to 2018 which I didn't want. I'm sick and tired of the "One year to go before the release of the most wanted game" and then they say, "Oh, sorry, you have to wait for another two years" which has been repeating over and over since 2012.
Normally I'm a paitent person, but now that paitence is nearing it's end, not to mention the constant bad news I've been getting ever since my grandmother died in 2013. Since then, I've had nothing but disappointments and near bad luck.
Today is one of those bad luck, anger issues days for me. I'm trying to stay calm and possitive, but it seemed that everytime I try to be possitive, everything always turns to negative. It's upside-down for me.
Plus, I was all hyped up for the 1st of October. Now it's an extra wait which is annoying.
Lulcielid
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While Nomura wanted to release a KH game per year, he's not the CEO making these business decisions, Yusuke Matsuda is not obliged to follow Nomura's ideas.
Botton line: If S.E wanted, they could release both 2.8 & KHIII on the same year or still release 2.8 in December 2016.
Botton line: If S.E wanted, they could release both 2.8 & KHIII on the same year or still release 2.8 in December 2016.
Tetsujin
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This is not how any of this works. I doubt FFXV would in any way affect KH2.8 and why would it? It isn't that much closer to XV than World of FF is. They'll also wanna have it ready in time for holidays I'd assume.
No one said they can only release one KH game per year. You make up these arbitrary rules on how Square Enix works due to your very literal interpretation of their statements.
That being said though, I would not expect KH3 to come out in 2017 eitherway.
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Avalanche87
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I'm not watching shit until I get the full movie
AGREE!!!!!
hian
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It's really amateurish, that's what it is.
It's the exact same reason most indie-developers, musicians, artists, and other creative people never actually finish their first ambitious projects.
At some point, a creator just has to go "This has got to be good enough".
What's even worse, which anyone who's ever taken up drawing or writing music can attest to, is that often when you spend too much time nit-picking on something it just ends up getting worse and worse.
Ever drawn something, only to scratch it out with an eraser, and then draw it over and over again until the paper is dark grey, and starting to tear?
That's why one of the most important qualities of a creator is knowing when to draw a line in the sand and say : "This is okay, now it's finished" and rather take with you the ideas and frustration from that process and feed it into your next product.
There is no such thing as a perfect piece of art. Tabata, and his team, at this point, need to get their heads out of the clouds and realize that whatever last bit of polish they can do at this point is very unlikely to make much of a difference on the total experience of most players.
If there's something wrong with the game at this point, it's much more likely to be deep-running fundamental problems that can only be addressed with extensive re-design - and the small-fry problems like a low-res resolution at one of the countless rocks in the game, are not worth addressing at this point in either case.
I get that Tabata is stressed out - the game's a behemoth, and the future of FF, and Tabata's own job probably rests on its success.
But really man, if it isn't up and working to a relatively high-standard at this point - it's never going to.
Just accept your fate.
All that being said - this could be something completely different than what it appears to be.
For all we know, company higher-ups have decided that FFVX should come with an FFVIIR demo, or that they want to the release to match up with the PS4 Neo for some sort of bundle thing to boost sales, and Tabata and Co are just making these excuses to keep it under wraps.
It's the exact same reason most indie-developers, musicians, artists, and other creative people never actually finish their first ambitious projects.
At some point, a creator just has to go "This has got to be good enough".
What's even worse, which anyone who's ever taken up drawing or writing music can attest to, is that often when you spend too much time nit-picking on something it just ends up getting worse and worse.
Ever drawn something, only to scratch it out with an eraser, and then draw it over and over again until the paper is dark grey, and starting to tear?
That's why one of the most important qualities of a creator is knowing when to draw a line in the sand and say : "This is okay, now it's finished" and rather take with you the ideas and frustration from that process and feed it into your next product.
There is no such thing as a perfect piece of art. Tabata, and his team, at this point, need to get their heads out of the clouds and realize that whatever last bit of polish they can do at this point is very unlikely to make much of a difference on the total experience of most players.
If there's something wrong with the game at this point, it's much more likely to be deep-running fundamental problems that can only be addressed with extensive re-design - and the small-fry problems like a low-res resolution at one of the countless rocks in the game, are not worth addressing at this point in either case.
I get that Tabata is stressed out - the game's a behemoth, and the future of FF, and Tabata's own job probably rests on its success.
But really man, if it isn't up and working to a relatively high-standard at this point - it's never going to.
Just accept your fate.
All that being said - this could be something completely different than what it appears to be.
For all we know, company higher-ups have decided that FFVX should come with an FFVIIR demo, or that they want to the release to match up with the PS4 Neo for some sort of bundle thing to boost sales, and Tabata and Co are just making these excuses to keep it under wraps.
Tashasaurous
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Fully agreed, Hian. You almost took the words right out my mouth. Personally, every protect in anything has little odd mistakes or two, but I don't groan or complain about it. I notice it, and I just shrug and go, "Well, too late to change it now. I'll just ignore it."
In the end, there will still be mistakes in the game and no one's even going to care as long as they get to play the game.
That being said, my attitude with my own small projects like drawings(digital art) and stories on fanfiction, there are mistakes but as I say to myself, "Still not what I had in mind, but it's better than nothing and I love it." and I call it done. My mother's the same and so is my sister. Plus, there's no such thing as perfect.
What gets to me is that a lot of people always go, "This must be the best of the best and absolutely perfect, no mistakes and you must be quick or, take your time for several years" that sort of thing, and it's really annoying.
I mean, seriously, the more they fiddle with their projects, the more it'll only be terrible, as you said. But then again, high priced companies and rich people always believe that they know *gestures with fingers* "Everything".
Cavemen in the stoneage worked hard on survival and even made the first round circle, and did they think about wanting to make it perfect? I don't think so. As long as it works and is good, small mistakes are nothing.
In the end, Square's only reaction they're getting from their buyers is more frustration, impaitence, annoyance and disappointments.
In the end, there will still be mistakes in the game and no one's even going to care as long as they get to play the game.
That being said, my attitude with my own small projects like drawings(digital art) and stories on fanfiction, there are mistakes but as I say to myself, "Still not what I had in mind, but it's better than nothing and I love it." and I call it done. My mother's the same and so is my sister. Plus, there's no such thing as perfect.
What gets to me is that a lot of people always go, "This must be the best of the best and absolutely perfect, no mistakes and you must be quick or, take your time for several years" that sort of thing, and it's really annoying.
I mean, seriously, the more they fiddle with their projects, the more it'll only be terrible, as you said. But then again, high priced companies and rich people always believe that they know *gestures with fingers* "Everything".
Cavemen in the stoneage worked hard on survival and even made the first round circle, and did they think about wanting to make it perfect? I don't think so. As long as it works and is good, small mistakes are nothing.
In the end, Square's only reaction they're getting from their buyers is more frustration, impaitence, annoyance and disappointments.
lithiumkatana17
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Tasha and hian:
You two realize that Square Enix has A LOT riding on this game and everything surrounding it right? This could likely do serious damage to the company and impact the future of any more FF games if the end product is not where they want it to be.
XII is one of my favorites, and the executive producer of the game even admitted that they thought the end product was not 'perfect', and it looks to me like you both are overanalyzing the word.
Bottom line, if Tabata and the team are not satisfied with the product, what makes you think we would be? Better delay a good game then not release it at all.
If I may quote Auron in X, "Hurry up and wait."
You two realize that Square Enix has A LOT riding on this game and everything surrounding it right? This could likely do serious damage to the company and impact the future of any more FF games if the end product is not where they want it to be.
XII is one of my favorites, and the executive producer of the game even admitted that they thought the end product was not 'perfect', and it looks to me like you both are overanalyzing the word.
Bottom line, if Tabata and the team are not satisfied with the product, what makes you think we would be? Better delay a good game then not release it at all.
If I may quote Auron in X, "Hurry up and wait."