Forspoken [aka Project Athia]
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JBedford
Pro Adventurer
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- JBed
Best feature. You can switch in FFXV by... changing the game's language! Had to suffer through the distance switching between 1000 feet to some arbitrary fraction of a mile. Wouldn't have even been a problem had they just measured everything in points of a mile, rather than use two incompatible systems.
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
cold_spirit
he/him
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- Alex T
I've spent two hours in the demo, here's my thoughts:
While it's true more attacks are available through magic parkour, and more unique abilities can be unlocked (like pulling enemies in), I don't believe they're enough to give the combat true depth. There's a few things missing.
In Devil May Cry and Bayonetta, you can mash attack, but you can also pause between button presses to change the combo. In Dynasty Warriors and Valkyrie Elysium, there's a strong attack button, which changes depending on when you press it in a combo.
Forspoken has neither of these. Maybe you can use magic parkour to do a sweet opener, or counterattack after a close dodge, but you'll ultimately fall back on mashing the game's single attack button: R2.
Despite this, I had a blast. Lotta fun to be found here, just don't expect an action game of the year contender.
As mentioned earlier, use left and right on the directional pad to instantly switch magic types. I also recommend going to the Accessibility Settings and changing Magic Parkour Sprinting to Toggle. By default, you have to hold Circle to start magic parkour, which you're going to be doing a lot as you move around the field. However, holding Circle means you lose camera control. By switching it to Toggle, you can initiate magic parkour, then move your thumb back to the analog stick to adjust the camera as needed. Much better.
Also, switch the game to Performance mode! Wild to me that they spent so much time on the animation and effects only to cap it at 30fps by default. Get outta here with that.
While it's true more attacks are available through magic parkour, and more unique abilities can be unlocked (like pulling enemies in), I don't believe they're enough to give the combat true depth. There's a few things missing.
In Devil May Cry and Bayonetta, you can mash attack, but you can also pause between button presses to change the combo. In Dynasty Warriors and Valkyrie Elysium, there's a strong attack button, which changes depending on when you press it in a combo.
Forspoken has neither of these. Maybe you can use magic parkour to do a sweet opener, or counterattack after a close dodge, but you'll ultimately fall back on mashing the game's single attack button: R2.
Despite this, I had a blast. Lotta fun to be found here, just don't expect an action game of the year contender.
As mentioned earlier, use left and right on the directional pad to instantly switch magic types. I also recommend going to the Accessibility Settings and changing Magic Parkour Sprinting to Toggle. By default, you have to hold Circle to start magic parkour, which you're going to be doing a lot as you move around the field. However, holding Circle means you lose camera control. By switching it to Toggle, you can initiate magic parkour, then move your thumb back to the analog stick to adjust the camera as needed. Much better.
Also, switch the game to Performance mode! Wild to me that they spent so much time on the animation and effects only to cap it at 30fps by default. Get outta here with that.
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Tetsujin
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- Tets
Adding my own experience, I think the game feels better with the adaptive triggers turned off. I like adaptive trigger effects and all but here it just adds resistance to a button you constantly push in order to attack and I don't quite understand why. It makes it feel sluggish and unresponsive. Should have been off by default.
There is an option to decrease the amount of banter which I might actually use because the dialogue between Frey and Cuff is uh. A bit naff.
There is an option to decrease the amount of banter which I might actually use because the dialogue between Frey and Cuff is uh. A bit naff.
ph14basicbitch
shinra merch buyer
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- koda
I played through the demo again and did more things and found a cat familiar. If you return to your hut, the cat will appear and nap with you; it's pretty cute. The cats also have unicorn horns. Excellent.
Obviously this isn't all of the magic you'll get in game, but I've found it most effective to just go unga bunga with the flaming sword the whole time and mash R2, and swap to Earth Rock Machine Gun when it's a dumb flying mob. I think the combat wants to be more technical than it really is...? I don't wanna overplay the demo cause then I'm going to cry kick and scream about having to redo this area in the full game lol.
Obviously this isn't all of the magic you'll get in game, but I've found it most effective to just go unga bunga with the flaming sword the whole time and mash R2, and swap to Earth Rock Machine Gun when it's a dumb flying mob. I think the combat wants to be more technical than it really is...? I don't wanna overplay the demo cause then I'm going to cry kick and scream about having to redo this area in the full game lol.
Roger
He/him
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- Minato
Hell yes, the adaptive triggers are exhausting in this demo. I loved them on RE: Village but they were annoying here.Adding my own experience, I think the game feels better with the adaptive triggers turned off. I like adaptive trigger effects and all but here it just adds resistance to a button you constantly push in order to attack and I don't quite understand why. It makes it feel sluggish and unresponsive. Should have been off by default.
There is an option to decrease the amount of banter which I might actually use because the dialogue between Frey and Cuff is uh. A bit naff.
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
Celebrating the anniversary from another Square Enix game series.
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
Final game will have adjusted text size, full button configuration and fixed HDR.
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
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Forspoken Trophy List Revealed
Forspoken Trophy List Revealed. Check out all 54 trophies & achievements for Forspoken (1 Platinum, 2 Gold, 7 Silver, 44 Bronze).
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Makoeyes987
Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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- Smooth Criminal
It's rare to see a game gather such enmity and vitriol over such mundanity but it looks like Forspoken is the new target now. This will be interesting in the most sad way possible.
Like, is the dialogue bad? In some spots, yeah.
But holy shit, it is exaggerated for literally no reason. Jesus Christ. It's like Forspoken is a new Sonic game on pre-release or something
I hope this hammers the most important lesson into Square Enix's thick skulls now. There is absolutely zero incentive to ever try to localize or write "for the west overseas." Be authentic. Hell, be JRPG cringe. Do not chase fads or try to cater to what they think a modern audience is. Because they can't do it. Authenticity is 10000% more appreciated and accepted than trying to accommodate this... Horribly hamfisted notion of what a Gen Z person sounds like. It is more of a Marvel movie caricature than any person.
The writer here missed and now people are picking at them like vultures.
Like, is the dialogue bad? In some spots, yeah.
But holy shit, it is exaggerated for literally no reason. Jesus Christ. It's like Forspoken is a new Sonic game on pre-release or something
I hope this hammers the most important lesson into Square Enix's thick skulls now. There is absolutely zero incentive to ever try to localize or write "for the west overseas." Be authentic. Hell, be JRPG cringe. Do not chase fads or try to cater to what they think a modern audience is. Because they can't do it. Authenticity is 10000% more appreciated and accepted than trying to accommodate this... Horribly hamfisted notion of what a Gen Z person sounds like. It is more of a Marvel movie caricature than any person.
The writer here missed and now people are picking at them like vultures.
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ForceStealer
Double Growth
An apparently outlier positive review
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Wol
None Shall Remember Those Who Do Not Fight
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- Rosarian Shield
I understand where the criticism comes from but I agree that it became hyperbolic real quick. Maybe because it's a new IP and doesn't have a brand to shield it yet, but FF also had this type of criticism since the dawn of time so who knows...It's rare to see a game gather such enmity and vitriol over such mundanity but it looks like Forspoken is the new target now. This will be interesting in the most sad way possible.
Like, is the dialogue bad? In some spots, yeah.
But holy shit, it is exaggerated for literally no reason. Jesus Christ. It's like Forspoken is a new Sonic game on pre-release or something
I hope this hammers the most important lesson into Square Enix's thick skulls now. There is absolutely zero incentive to ever try to localize or write "for the west overseas." Be authentic. Hell, be JRPG cringe. Do not chase fads or try to cater to what they think a modern audience is. Because they can't do it. Authenticity is 10000% more appreciated and accepted than trying to accommodate this... Horribly hamfisted notion of what a Gen Z person sounds like. It is more of a Marvel movie caricature than any person.
The writer here missed and now people are picking at them like vultures.
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Anyway not looking too good so far
Forspoken Reviews
Forspoken is rated 'Fair' after being reviewed by 49 critics, with an overall average score of 70. It's ranked in the bottom 40% of games and recommended by 32% of critics.
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Strangelove
AI Researcher
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- hitoshura
i think i called the dialogue in that infamous twitter trailer “they fly now” dialogue before, and then i saw a clip from the game showing some of that dialogue in context and the same line (“i just moved things with my mind” or something, not in the previous video) was repeated like 5 times with identical wording. just parroting the same thing over and over except one time it adds ‘freaking’ as well.
truly giving “they fly now! (x3)” without even the courtesy of making different characters say it. it’s all the protagonist
i need to make space for the demo but i am strongly considering changing the audio language from english just to have some mental distance and different sensibilities to the dialogue. i don’t think i would take a whole game like that
truly giving “they fly now! (x3)” without even the courtesy of making different characters say it. it’s all the protagonist
i need to make space for the demo but i am strongly considering changing the audio language from english just to have some mental distance and different sensibilities to the dialogue. i don’t think i would take a whole game like that
Clement Rage
Pro Adventurer
Lacking a PS5 I Youtubed the first couple of hours. Seems okay. I don't think there's been an actual problem with the dialogue, she's unnecessarily quippy, but that's standard protagonist personality. I think you could almost say it's a more realistic reaction to being suddenly dragged into a fantasy world than usual.
Meme criticisms can snowball fast and get very cruel.
Meme criticisms can snowball fast and get very cruel.
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Tetsujin
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- Tets
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
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The star of Forspoken isn’t bothered by all the memes
We’re all cringe in some way.
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Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
Sales Data.
US
#7 best selling (in dollar sales) game of January 2023.
#7 most downloaded PS5 game on PS Store of January.
EU
#5 most downloaded PS5 game on PS Store of January.
#4 on the UK retail charts on launch week.
#1 on the French retail charts on launch week.
Japan
#3 on retail charts on launch week. (29.055 copies).
#2 most downloaded PS5 game on PS Store of January.
US
#7 best selling (in dollar sales) game of January 2023.
#7 most downloaded PS5 game on PS Store of January.
EU
#5 most downloaded PS5 game on PS Store of January.
#4 on the UK retail charts on launch week.
#1 on the French retail charts on launch week.
Japan
#3 on retail charts on launch week. (29.055 copies).
#2 most downloaded PS5 game on PS Store of January.
looneymoon
they/them
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- Rishi
Was this really that cringe? I saw some of the clips of the dialogue and it honestly seemed fine to me. I figured it was just an easy target cuz WOC main character and it being a new IP.
Maidenofwar
They/Them
A streamer I watch got a SE code so they streamed this for a bit which I was able to watch some of and yeah it looked fine. One complaint I've read since is the game might be too short to justify the price tag (people were saying 20hrs~? counting side content) which I think is a more legitimate complaint than other stuff. People feel the game feels kind of unfinished and not as polished as it could have been. I thought the game looked a good time when I watched some of it on stream though and still might pick it up in a sale sometime.
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