Good things about DoC
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It wasn't a seperate MMORPG (neither was it MMO or an RPG),
D'oh! You are right, it wasn't an RPG.
But why not a MMO? What is a MMO if not a multiplayer game you play online?
it was an integrated online mode that we just didn't get.
Because it failed in Japan and S-E had to 'close' it. My point still stands.
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Tetsujin
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MMO is massively multiplayer online. I don't think DC featured a "massive" amount of players that could play together, it was pretty standard.
At least. I think so.
Yeah well, the game itself failed, so the multiplayer mode would fail automatically.
But it was free as far as I remember, so it's not like they got a lot of money out of it in the first place...
Cloudskye
Gone
Then you're not understanding the game. There's tons of things good, maybe you just don't see them.
Kelranox
Lv. 25 Adventurer
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Then you're not understanding the game. There's tons of things good, maybe you just don't see them.
Oh, like the fact that I glitched into a ladder in the game, disallowing further progression? =P
Cloudskye
Gone
ForceStealer
Double Growth
At least there wasn't already footage from a later chronological entry in the Compilation proving that Vincent was alive as with Advent Children
Masamune
Fiat Lux
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- Masa
If I had to pay DoC one compliment, it would be the soundtrack which was solid but not spectacular. Before the game's release I'd already heard about the gameplay problems, but listening to 'Trigger Situation' I was really hoping the plot would make up for it (you can usually forgive one without the other). Oh boy, what a mistake that was...
ShiningSugar14
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My favorite thing about Dirge was DeepGround. Just overall. The Tsviets were really interesting characters. In general, lots of villains have to have everything explained about them and have lots of complex motivations for their actions. "Sephiroth wants to do this because Lalalala," "Genesis is doing this because of these reasons." Tsviets don't need overly complicated motivations. Their motivations? Because they're completely mentally unstable.
I liked hearing Lucrecia's side of the story too. When I first heard of her, all I got was the basic information and "She's a bitch who broke Vincent's heart." But she was hurting a lot too, and I'm glad that I got to see more of her side of things.
I liked hearing Lucrecia's side of the story too. When I first heard of her, all I got was the basic information and "She's a bitch who broke Vincent's heart." But she was hurting a lot too, and I'm glad that I got to see more of her side of things.
Alessa Gillespie
a letter to my future self
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what is even going on with this sentence. Okay, so not returning affection to a dude makes a chick a bitch? What if the dude is totally creepy? I mean hell, game didn't give any indication Vincent wasn't a total creeper, I see no reason to assert he wasn't.
Besides this I have nothing to add because I lost my copy of Dirge having left it totally unplayed.
ShiningSugar14
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what is even going on with this sentence. Okay, so not returning affection to a dude makes a chick a bitch? What if the dude is totally creepy? I mean hell, game didn't give any indication Vincent wasn't a total creeper, I see no reason to assert he wasn't.
I should have clarified: My friend, who I was getting a lot information from at the time, was calling her a bitch. I was just sitting there all, "^^ Lol, who's Lucrecia?" I actually like her a lot.
ShiningSugar14
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They had personality and more than enough motivation. Where do you see a lack of that?
Max Payne
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EVERYWHERE.
Being mentally unstable isn't a good motivation for ANYONE. Even the Joker, who is completely off his clock does what he does to prove something.
Scias
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Dirge was shit. Like, a mountain of shit. The characters were terrible, the story was horrible, and, seriously, a secret city of zombie-like nazi super soldiers sealed BENEATH the de facto world capitol? Really? What the hell!?
BUT, yes, Dirge had some good things:
1.- The music. Just google a pair of tracks and you'll see. Really, the music of this game is win. Not super duper epic mega win, but it's pretty good.
2.- Reeve. I'm the only one who actually thinks he's better here than in the other FF7 games? He's like, the only character who was really enjoyable.
3.- That sexy battle over Midgar.
4.- Nothing.
BUT, yes, Dirge had some good things:
1.- The music. Just google a pair of tracks and you'll see. Really, the music of this game is win. Not super duper epic mega win, but it's pretty good.
2.- Reeve. I'm the only one who actually thinks he's better here than in the other FF7 games? He's like, the only character who was really enjoyable.
3.- That sexy battle over Midgar.
4.- Nothing.
Max Payne
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- Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
That everyone supposedly forgot or had no records of. All of this manpower, resources and technology all moved underground but no one knew about it.
Scias
Pro Adventurer
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- Vega, Kyle Hyde
^ This. Like, what the hell dude, they even had WAR HELICOPTERS down there, and no one knew a thing? Just Heidegger, Scarlet, Hojo and the President? How did they dispose the implied shitload of employees needed to create something like Deepground? They said the thing was a laboratory or something but the fucking thing is an underground metropolis. How, just how, something like that managed to stay a secret, while three random dudes stormed the Shinra Headquarters and nearly kill the president themselves?
Also... Why? Why make something like that? You know, harvesting super mega soldiers who may hate your guts with every fiber of their body just sounds kinda... Stupid. Such manpower, such technology, for what? Also, come on, Shinra already had the entire world in their hands. What was the need for Deepground????
I was like 12 or 13 when I played it and I was all like "you better be trolling nigga
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Max Payne
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- Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
^ This. Like, what the hell dude, they even had WAR HELICOPTERS down there, and no one knew a thing? Just Heidegger, Scarlet, Hojo and the President? How did they dispose the implied shitload of employees needed to create something like Deepground? They said the thing was a laboratory or something but the fucking thing is an underground metropolis. How, just how, something like that managed to stay a secret, while three random dudes stormed the Shinra Headquarters and nearly kill the president themselves?
Also... Why? Why make something like that? You know, harvesting super mega soldiers who may hate your guts with every fiber of their body just sounds kinda... Stupid. Such manpower, such technology, for what? Also, come on, Shinra already had the entire world in their hands. What was the need for Deepground????
I was like 12 or 13 when I played it and I was all like "you better be trolling nigga
Everyone keeps books and records of work done as well, especially when money changes hands. They'd have had to slaughter scores of people to cover up all of that.
A better question is, if you have all of these soldiers, tech and weapons, why are you hiding it away to begin with? Why no just integrate it into your already existing army of soldiers?
Scias
Pro Adventurer
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- Vega, Kyle Hyde
This is a very, very good question. You may think it is because one never knows and blahblahblah. A secret weapon, sounds "good" on it's own, BUT then you remember, Shinra has no rivals! In Case of Turks/Rufus, the President even admits that he didn't bother to put an emergency exit of his office because simply nothing could pose such a threat.
If there's no danger so critical and no rival so powerful, then there's no need of such a thing like Deepground, much less hide it, that's just silly, Shinra would have killed Genesis, Sephiroth and everybody else if they had just combined SOLDIER with Deepground and upgraded the Turks technology with some epic DG tech.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
The concept isn't bad. It's kinda cool, but they just made it WAY too freakin big. If it was a "hospital" in which they experimented on wounded SOLDIERs and thus, was a fraction of the size of SOLDIER, fine. The fact that they have an entire army and helicopters and whatnot in a city beneath Midgar, ridiculous. If they had the Tsviets and maybe, I dunno, like 50 more people, I'd be okay with it.