Good things about DoC
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Tetsujin
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The original game broke itself there imo.
They have helicopters and planes and ships in Junon but Rufus looks for a tiny plane that can barely hold 2 people in the cockpit? Smart move, Mr. President.
Sure, it has VTOL capabilities which are needed considering Sephiroth might not exactly hide next to a runway but again, helicopters.
Obsidian Fire
Ahk Morn!
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^^This.
Not to mention the original Corel's location; it should be anywhere except in the middle of the desert no one can get into or out of. In fact, if you go off the FMV, it is north of North Corel.
Also, Fort Condor. That situation makes no sense whatsoever. Why didn't Shin-Ra just send some SOLDIERs and be done with it. Plus, where did FC get all the weapons and mercenaries?
In any case, it wasn't like the OG made complete sense either, so why should any of the compilation games?
Not to mention the original Corel's location; it should be anywhere except in the middle of the desert no one can get into or out of. In fact, if you go off the FMV, it is north of North Corel.
Also, Fort Condor. That situation makes no sense whatsoever. Why didn't Shin-Ra just send some SOLDIERs and be done with it. Plus, where did FC get all the weapons and mercenaries?
In any case, it wasn't like the OG made complete sense either, so why should any of the compilation games?
Scias
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Yeah, but Dirge insults your common sense. These kind of details in FFVII can be quickly forgiven and forgotten, but Dirge was such a mountain of nonsense.
Seriously it's like the game thinks you're stupid.
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Because they don't make any sense, even in the context of the original.
OneWingedDemon
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That's because it does. It assumes you're gonna gobble up anythign FFVII cause you're a stupid fanboy. And so long as Vincent's cape looks like Spawn's no one will notice the Meteor-sized plot holes and sheer idiocy of that entire plot.
Always a good idea to have supah secret, uncontrollable, completely batshit insane super soldiers RIGHT UNDER your HQ. WTF. At least the Mansion in FFVII was in some remote backward ass village no one ahd even heard of. They don't even try to make this somewhat plausible.
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Splintered
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This is the only reason I tolerate the game. Reeve became one of my favorite characters tbh. They did his character well, which is good because they sold Cait Sith short OG.
The rest of DoC can shove it.
Masamune
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Apart from all that "...I'm a hero of the Jenova War" crap.
Dude, you hid behind a stuffed moogle & a toy cat while everyone else did the fighting! (...and you perved on your parents)
Tetsujin
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Didn't he address Vincent? I'm fairly sure he said "You're a hero of the Jenova War!" instead of claiming himself as such although I could be wrong.
I'd also like to rant about the term "Jenova War" but this is a thread about the good things in DC so uhh.
Weiss' voice actor?
ForceStealer
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No he says to Vincent that "I'm supposed to be a hero of the Jenova War," but I don't know that HE really thinks that. I thought he was just referring to the fact that that's how the WRO views him. And having the HQ steamrolled reminded him that he, well, isn't.
Tetsujin
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Oh right, now I remember.
Masamune
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Shalua's, for me. She was cast perfectly.
Too bad she looked like crap. And got replaced by Shelke as the love interest. D:
Tifabelle
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Wasn't Reeve the one who evacuated a bunch of people from Midgar to Kalm? That might be why people consider him a hero....I'm not sure how much the public is aware that he is the one controlling Cait Sith. Plus he pulled together the WRO and stuff, so that might be where the "hero" stuff comes from.
Does HE consider himself a hero of the war? It's hard to tell from that statement. I mean, he certainly wouldn't put himself of the level of Cloud or Tifa, but he did play an important role in aiding them. So he is still a hero of the war in all those ways.
Does HE consider himself a hero of the war? It's hard to tell from that statement. I mean, he certainly wouldn't put himself of the level of Cloud or Tifa, but he did play an important role in aiding them. So he is still a hero of the war in all those ways.
Scias
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Hahahaha that line always got me laughing. But well, Moogle or not, the guy pretty much did everything he could being a pretty normal dude who just happens to... Control a giant toy. Also, WRO. Reeve, to the population and his crew, pretty much is THE Hero of the "Jenova War", maybe he was referring to that, that he as the Leader should have protected better the HQ and the morale of his troops. He was doing everything he could and if that meant he had to sell himself as a Super Hero, then so be it. Or at least that's how I view it.
Man, Reeve is such a bro. He's just the type of guy one would want to talk in real life.
^ Also, this.
Let's not forget, while Cloud and company were fighting, Reeve and his crew were the ones who directly helped people actively around the world.
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Obsidian Fire
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Reeve is the only member of AVALANCHE that really stays in the public eye so it would make sense for the general population to view him as the hero of the Jenova War. Everyone else in AVALANCHE just wants to get back to their private lives.
I like how Weiss' personality did a turn-around from the mulitplayer to DoC and how his fighting ability drastically fell. In the mulitplayer, he wants to get out of DG as much as the rest of the Tsivets do and he fights Rosso and Azul at the same time and wipes the floor with them even when they are powered up and he's not. In DoC, he refuses to come out of the mako reactor and ends up getting defeated by Vincent when Vincent had trouble defeating just Rosso. It was nice to see the contrast between Weiss' and Hojo's mentalities.
I like how Weiss' personality did a turn-around from the mulitplayer to DoC and how his fighting ability drastically fell. In the mulitplayer, he wants to get out of DG as much as the rest of the Tsivets do and he fights Rosso and Azul at the same time and wipes the floor with them even when they are powered up and he's not. In DoC, he refuses to come out of the mako reactor and ends up getting defeated by Vincent when Vincent had trouble defeating just Rosso. It was nice to see the contrast between Weiss' and Hojo's mentalities.
Lord Noctis
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Uh, to be fair Vincent was powered up by Chaos when he beat Weiss. When he tried to fight Weiss, or Hojo depending on hopw you look at it, using only his own abilities he was defeated easily.
Scias
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Sadly, to truly appreciate this you have to see gameplay of a japan-only game mode, and buy japan-only guide books (Ultimania).
DIRGE OF CERBERUS!
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Sadly, to truly appreciate this you have to see gameplay of a japan-only game, and buy japan-only guide books (Ultimania).
THE FFVII COMPILATION!
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ForceStealer
Double Growth
SQUARE ENIX!
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Tennyo
Higher Further Faster
This. Reeve was a high-ranking Shinra official. At the end of the game isn't everyone else above him either dead or disposed of?
He's a face that the public probably recognizes, and he seems to insert himself into the role as leader of the populace since there's literally no one else. The idea that the public views him as a hero isn't that far-fetched, especially since no one in Avalanche (barring Yuffie, and then no one in Wutai even believed her) went around advertising that they were responsible saving the world.
OneWingedDemon
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Ugh, Shalua's character design pisses me off, because FFVII was populated by characters wearing relatively normal clothing that wouldn't really be out of place in real life. Then the compilation (particularly DoC) arrives and Nomura shits on the whole aesthetic. Fuck, man. WTF was that dress she was wearing? She's a scientist ffs, why is she dressed like she's going clubbing while on the job? Never mind the Deepground peeps.
In FFVII, I think the only people who stand out are Sephiroth and Vincent, really. Which makes sense to me because one is an alien demi-god and the other an immortal. It doesn't feel out fo character considering who they are.
Also, creepy Shelke is creepy.
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Obsidian Fire
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Um, no.
Scarlet, Tifa, and Yuffie I would stick firmly in the category of not wearing normal clothing. Other people who might be in that category are Cloud and Aerith. Not to mention Caith Sith and Nanaki.
Splintered
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normal...er clothes? Compared to other Final Fantasies?
Well actually, there are a couple of normal dressed characters that Nomura made. Namely most of 8 like Quistis, and characters like Sazh.
10 is where he started to go insane, although things like Yuna's was kind of tasteful. 10-2 was complete batshit though.