Good things about DoC

[Dana Scully]

Um, no.

Scarlet, Tifa, and Yuffie I would stick firmly in the category of not wearing normal clothing. Other people who might be in that category are Cloud and Aerith. Not to mention Caith Sith and Nanaki.

Dude, Shalua is not even in the same league as any of them as far as wardrobe malfunctions go.

I mean, look at this woman.

At least with Scarlet, she was a cutthroat bitch who I think we can safely say would have no qualms using her looks to get higher up the company ladder. While I agree a red dress isn't exactly normal work attire, it fit with her character. And Tifa and Yuffie, while showing a lot of skin, wouldn't really make any wtfs? pop up.

And then you have Ms. Carefully-arranged-rags-and-straps up there who we're supposed to take as a highly intelligent, professional working woman?

lolno

 

[Mariketsu]

As far as wardrobe attire in DoC, I have to agree, a lot of the DoC designs were a bit bizarre. I still prefer Yuffie's AC/C outfit for that reason.

~ Raz

 

[Obsidian Fire]

And then you have Ms. Carefully-arranged-rags-and-straps up there who we're supposed to take as a highly intelligent, professional working woman?

Considering the fact that Shalua is nothing more than a glorified data analyzer that worked with the original AVALANCHE, I wouldn't take her to be a professional no matter what she wore. That said, she is a computer nerd, so it's not like she's supposed to know what good fashion is anyway.

 

[Dana Scully]

Considering the fact that Shalua is nothing more than a glorified data analyzer that worked with the original AVALANCHE, I wouldn't take her to be a professional no matter what she wore.

This reminds me, did they ever say exactly what Shalua's job was with the WRO? The FFwiki just says she worked as a 'soldier and a scientist'.

Wiki also mentions that Shalua is the one who built Barret's gun-arm. First time I've heard that, is that true?

That said, she is a computer nerd, so it's not like she's supposed to know what good fashion is anyway.

 

[ForceStealer]

I thought that dude in Case of Barret was the guy that made the gunarm.

How would we feel about her if they got rid of the second skirt? I'm not sure myself, she'd still be one slutty looking computer tech, but it would look less ridiculous.
Same deal with Yuffie, for that matter. Get rid of the seatbelt on her shirt and her outfit's fine. Although she had a great Advent Children outfit, I'm not sure why they changed it at all.

Second question, did Nomura design Shalua? I think he did, I only ask because I know Dirge was done by a different team than AC and CC.

 

[Tifabelle]

Final Fantasy always has over-the-top and unusual clothing. Most outfits in the series aren't necessarily practical. I'm not sure why you'd expect this game to be any different. Although FF7-9 probably had the most "normal" styles.

 

[Dana Scully]

I thought that dude in Case of Barret was the guy that made the gunarm.

That's what I thought, too. Maybe Shalua is also a super talented prosthetic-weapon engineer and they just never mentioned it?

How would we feel about her if they got rid of the second skirt? I'm not sure myself, she'd still be one slutty looking computer tech, but it would look less ridiculous.

While it would tone down the ridiculousness, it's still an incredibly stupid outfit, imo.

Second question, did Nomura design Shalua? I think he did, I only ask because I know Dirge was done by a different team than AC and CC.

Looks like he was in charge, yeah.

The characters were designed by Tetsuya Nomura who was helped by various assistants and given ideas by Yoshinori Kitase.

 

[Splintered]

Although FF7-9 probably had the most "normal" styles.

idk about 9. Eiko's pants where kind of really weird. Everyone else was okay. Until you get to the side characters like Blank, who also has this strange aversion to wearing pants.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I thought that dude in Case of Barret was the guy that made the gunarm.

I think the distinction is 'The Gun Arm' and 'The Plug Adapter,' Shalua made the Plug, I think, and Old Man Sakaki the various arms he used.
Something like that, at least.

 

[ForceStealer]

^Es posible

And Blank let his headband fall over one eye and never fix it. But yeah, the first time I saw Eiko I could have sworn she was naked. Her pink spandex wasn't very differently colored from her skin.

FF8 probably had the most physically possible/available, but they were still things that would get you laughed off the street if you tried to wear them (I'm looking at you, Irvine).

 

[Tifabelle]

I guess I didn't think about that too hard. I was thinking about Zidane and Garnet (while outdated, her outfit is something straight from 1975). Steiner is a knight actually dressed like a knight. Amarant's outfit is pretty normal. Vivi, though not normal by our standards, is a "normal black mage" within the FF universe. I'm forgetting someone. Quina doesn't count.

Blank had it over both eyes. Beatrix had it over one eye (is that who you meant?).

FF8 probably had the most physically possible/available, but they were still things that would get you laughed off the street if you tried to wear them (I'm looking at you, Irvine).

In Philly maybe. In Texas maybe not. Although I've never been to Texas, so I'm not sure.

 

[Roger]

You left out Freya, who wears a hat to hide her whole (admittedly horryifing giant rat)face.

 

[Splintered]

Blank had it over both eyes. Beatrix had it over one eye (is that who you meant?).

Look at Blank again. He wears no pants and the rest of his clothes... is like... stitched onto his body.

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/f/fa/BlankRender.png

When I was younger I thought he was the coolest looking character ever, but really he is the most ridiculous.

 

[Tifabelle]

You left out Freya, who wears a hat to hide her whole (admittedly horryifing giant rat)face.

OH GOD THE IRONY, LOL.

Also, I can't believe I forgot about her, since she's one of my favorite characters of FF9 (if not the most).

I know the fashion of FF gets joked about a lot (particularly Nomura's styles), but it never really bothered me. I mean, the fantasy/sci-fi genres almost always have unusual outfits, or parts of their outfits which are considered abnormal.

 

[ForceStealer]

I'm not sure which caused which, but I was kind of amazed when I was in Japan just how many clothes did have useless zippers and straps

 

[Splintered]

It doesn't bother me either.

Okay, some things irk me. Like how some people really need to learn to wear pants, Wakka just being the most ridiculous looking guy ever that it's hard to take him seriously (despite him being my favorite characters), and the fact the Rasler died because FFXII likes to have huge gaping holes in their armor.

But for the most part, I actually like the ridiculousness of the outfits. It's kind of a nice change of pace compared to most games, and it lets people works some kind of interesting art direction. I like FFXIII's character design, especially how different Fang Sari-esque clothes are.

I also don't mind angsty leads. Which most gamers tend to whine about Final Fantasy is anyway. I don't care if they act more whiny that, let's say, Marcus Fenix. If they are a good character, they are a good character, no matter what slice of archetype they come from.

 

[Strangelove]

Second question, did Nomura design Shalua? I think he did, I only ask because I know Dirge was done by a different team than AC and CC.

He did, but IIRC he had direction from someone else about the designs. Like Shalua, who might have been originally designed with a more conservative outfit (more like Nooj from FFX-2?) but someone said to give her a more revealing outfit? Something about characters with artificial limbs usually hiding their body and wanting to do something different?

I'm tired and I don't remember now.

Look at Blank again. He wears no pants and the rest of his clothes... is like... stitched onto his body.

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/f/fa/BlankRender.png

When I was younger I thought he was the coolest looking character ever, but really he is the most ridiculous.

I guess Kuja's sense of fashion/not wearing pants might just be a common trend on Gaia.

 

[OneWingedDemon]

and it lets people works some kind of interesting art direction

...by being all ove rthe place and completely at odds with its previous installments even though it's the same world?

I like FFXIII's character design, especially how different Fang Sari-esque clothes are.

Nothign against that. But it's a little WTF when you go from FFVII OG to FFXIII when it's the same fucking world/universe.
That's my issue. Not that unless it's a t-shirt and jeans I don't like it.

Scarlet, Tifa, and Yuffie I would stick firmly in the category of not wearing normal clothing.

...
Tifa wears a tank and miniskirt. It's simple. She obviously has a distinct design, but nothing nonsensically convoluted.
Obviously FFVII is not our world, but the outfits are pretty close.
Tifa's is prolly one of the simplest, in fact. I wouldn't bat an eye if I saw someone in her outfit. Cause I see them all the time.

Aeris wears a simple long dress and jacket that clash horribly. Whatever. There's nothing about it in terms of WTFISGOINGON!!!

Anyway, my point being nowhere in FFVII did I see stuff like this:
http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-VII-Dirge-of-Cerberus/Update%2010/26-Shalua-2.jpg
http://www.ffodyssey.com/ff7doc/ff7doc_artwork_rosso.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/9/9f/Nero.jpg
http://www.cosplay.ph/resume/costume/934.gif

I'm not saying I prefer one over the other, I'm just saying it's obviously very different, and for me personally, kind of jarring.

 

[Max Payne]

....

Isn't Scarlet just wearing a red dress?

How the hell is that normal clothing? What the fuck. OWD already addressed the rest of that nonsense.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Judging from this thread, the best thing about DoC is I never wasted my time playing this bullshit.

 

[Scias]

...What, you guys are really debating about Final Fantasy's clothing?

Nonononono, really? Seriously? For real?

 

[Masamune]

Anyway, my point being nowhere in FFVII did I see stuff like this:
http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-VII-Dirge-of-Cerberus/Update%2010/26-Shalua-2.jpg
http://www.ffodyssey.com/ff7doc/ff7doc_artwork_rosso.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/9/9f/Nero.jpg
http://www.cosplay.ph/resume/costume/934.gif

Further proof that the Compilation is completely out of touch (artistically and narratively) with the original FFVII.

 

[ForceStealer]

^Those are all from DoC, not really representative of the whole Compilation. Especially considering that was the entry done by a largely different team. Crisis Core was pretty consistent with FF7 in terms of aesthetic and color palette. I know it failed to capture the tone of the slums, but I think that's different.

 

[Roger]

Crisis Core is more toned down then FFVII even, Sephiroth easily having the wierdest costume

 

[Masamune]

^Those are all from DoC, not really representative of the whole Compilation. Especially considering that was the entry done by a largely different team. Crisis Core was pretty consistent with FF7 in terms of aesthetic and color palette. I know it failed to capture the tone of the slums, but I think that's different.

Well, they changed the SOLDIER outfits/emblems for starters. And made Tifa's cowgirl outfit look godawful. But it wasn't as much a shitstorm as DoC, that's true.

EDIT: And some of the monsters look like KH rejects.