Grand Theft Auto 5

[Ghost X]

No characters have been verified thus far. Some people believe people appearing in the trailer look like former protagonists of the series, but I'm not looking too deeply into that as of yet.

 

[Max Payne]

I do actually think it's easier to get the kind of insanely detailed references Rockstar loves from the US.

It'd probably cost a lot to go and do a full citywide scan of Tokyo.

 

[Vendel]

No characters have been verified thus far. Some people believe people appearing in the trailer look like former protagonists of the series, but I'm not looking too deeply into that as of yet.

Well that did occur to me as I watched it.

 

[Cthulhu]

Bullshit, plenty of games take place in other countries/visit them and they don't affect their sales at all.

Hell a lot of the best selling games don't even take place on earth, this is a shitty excuse to not have another game taking place in a foreign country.

Still, it's always Americans going there for some reason. They couldn't even get a Dutch person to voice the Dutch character in Deus Ex, ffs. Name me one video game in a foreign country or outer space where the protagonist isn't an American. You win the prize if you find one - and you win two prizes if it's an American or Canadian-made title.

And Tomb Raider don't count 'cause I thought of that one myself. Or the fellow from GTA IV.

Anyways.

Or whatever the hell that last guy was.

I actually looked it up, and Wikipedia too only goes as far as 'eastern Europe'. Which might be Russia, but it's more likely a former USSSR country.

It'd probably cost a lot to go and do a full citywide scan of Tokyo.

Yeah, but exactly how much more? Percentile-wise, of course. But also, they'd have to compete with Yakuza then. Not sure if any of those games take place in Tokyo though, nor how detailed they made that one.

 

[Max Payne]

Still, it's always Americans going there for some reason. They couldn't even get a Dutch person to voice the Dutch character in Deus Ex, ffs. Name me one video game in a foreign country or outer space where the protagonist isn't an American. You win the prize if you find one - and you win two prizes if it's an American or Canadian-made title.

What's the relevance of who the main character is in whatever setting? That doesn't make any sense in the context of the discussion.

And Tomb Raider don't count 'cause I thought of that one myself. Or the fellow from GTA IV.

HURR DURR NAME THESE GAMES FOR ME BUT DON'T MENTION TWO OF THE MOST FAMOUS.

The Call of Duty games feature British protagonists undertaking missions over seas, and Psycho in Crysis Warhead is British. Crytek is german though, but still.

The Assassin's Creed games feature protagonists who are far from American in very foreign settings but they do INCREDIBLY well in the market.

Yeah, but exactly how much more? Percentile-wise, of course. But also, they'd have to compete with Yakuza then. Not sure if any of those games take place in Tokyo though, nor how detailed they made that one.

Yakuza doesn't attempt to recreate it's locations entirely in videogame form like Rockstar has, they are also very different from the GTA games.

 

[Hisako]

The Call of Duty games feature British protagonists undertaking missions over seas, and Psycho in Crysis Warhead is British. Crytek is german though, but still.

The Assassin's Creed games feature protagonists who are far from American in very foreign settings but they do INCREDIBLY well in the market.

All these games still feature central protagonists that are American though,

 

[Max Payne]

All these games still feature central protagonists that are American though,

Crysis Warhead doesn't have an American protagonist you derp. Psycho is the main character of that game.

Also, in the Assassins Creed games, Desmond is the vehicle for the plot, but Altair and Ezio are the central protagonists. He A main character, but not THE main character imo.

 

[Cthulhu]

AssCreed was made by Canadians, with a French parent company, . Have a :p too.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

I think Rockstar sets GTA in America because America is funny. There's no country that's funnier to make fun of than America.

 

[Max Payne]

I think Rockstar sets GTA in America because America is funny. There's no country that's funnier to make fun of than America.

Japan.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

Okay I give up I got nothin'.

To specify what I meant, there's certain aspects of American society that Rockstar has grown comfortable poking fun at for their source of humor; American consumerism, our pathetic politics, outlandish American citizens, so on and so forth. It's stuff a lot of people worldwide can relate to, so it's a 'safe' choice.

But you're right; Japan is an excellent choice for a new GTA game. It's just that Rockstar has to find a way (and it's not hard. Pretty much every game they make is stellar) to creatively work around some of the inherent limitations of the setting, a lot of people are unfamiliar with Japanese culture, Japan isn't as diverse as America (or anywhere, really. Japan is one of the most static cultures in the world), and it would require a lot of work and research on Rockstars part to make a convincing, solid Japanese crime story.

But can it can be done. It's just a hurdle. But hey, that's why I think they're so focused on America. There's gotta be some reason, right?

 

[Max Payne]

Okay I give up I got nothin'.

To specify what I meant, there's certain aspects of American society that Rockstar has grown comfortable poking fun at for their source of humor; American consumerism, our pathetic politics, outlandish American citizens, so on and so forth. It's stuff a lot of people worldwide can relate to, so it's a 'safe' choice.

But you're right; Japan is an excellent choice for a new GTA game. It's just that Rockstar has to find a way (and it's not hard. Pretty much every game they make is stellar) to creatively work around some of the inherent limitations of the setting, a lot of people are unfamiliar with Japanese culture, Japan isn't as diverse as America (or anywhere, really. Japan is one of the most static cultures in the world), and it would require a lot of work and research on Rockstars part to make a convincing, solid Japanese crime story.

But can it can be done. It's just a hurdle. But hey, that's why I think they're so focused on America. There's gotta be some reason, right?

Hey man, we both know games can be good for learning about other cultures.

Also tbh, I feel like it's about time GTA moved past these generic criminal stories. For once I'd like to play as a normal guy with a normal life, who gets swept up in shit he can't control and does his best to do right by himself and his people.

Nico was close to that but pretty far off from it at the same time.

 

[stiles]

You guys..... it was only a non gameplay trailer that looked really nice how can you guys say if you like it or not??? o_O

 

[Max Payne]

No one made any final judgement on the goddamn game what the fuck.

People said either they were impressed by the trailer, or they weren't.

Durr.

 

[stiles]

honestly stop getting so upset anytime somebody says something you dont agree with lol. like seriously everytime i post you follow me around and get all rude and insult me, stop. im not even an adult and youre like a 50 year old harassing me.

 

[Max Payne]

ROFL.

Sure thing kid.

I'm just red and mad as hell here man!

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.

lmao.

 

[stiles]

You literally respond like a 12 year old on 4chan. Like usually if people are swearing and trying to insult you it doesn't mean they're wicked happy, obviously you're going to say you're just typing but yeah, don't put that out there and then act like somebody is retarded when they assume you don't love them.

 

[Max Payne]

You literally respond like a 12 year old on 4chan.

Yeah but without the penises and the exploding anuses though right? RIGHT?

THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME MAN.

Like usually if people are swearing and trying to insult you it doesn't mean they're wicked happy, obviously you're going to say you're just typing but yeah, don't put that out there and then act like somebody is retarded when they assume you don't love them.

Anyway, this will undoubtedly be a good game. Expressing concern/disappointment over what they've shown so far is not condemnation of the game.

 

[stiles]

you just said you weren't mad and I said when you swear and insult people it doesn't make you look happy. But you just said you're flamebaiting me or something in another thread so that's cool, I thought you were playing the mature adult when you called me a troll but whatever. I guess switching your position every other post is cool.

 

[Cthulhu]

There's a lot more political load if they were to make a Wapanese GTA though - I mean, it's usually acceptable for a country / people to make fun of itself, but it's a different game when you poke fun at someone else .

...Of course, they make fun of Chinese in GTA too. Nevermind, .

They would rule if they did GTA Baghdad though. Poke fun at the war and the middle east and stuff. Plus they could add Dubai, which is growing out to become the most glamorous / expensive city evar. Not sure if there's any gangs there though, but... fuck it, .

 

[Max Payne]

you just said you weren't mad and I said when you swear and insult people it doesn't make you look happy. But you just said you're flamebaiting me or something in another thread so that's cool, I thought you were playing the mature adult when you called me a troll but whatever. I guess switching your position every other post is cool.

Mommy, can I have some herp with my derp? Read the shit you're writing. It doesn't even make sense, but keep trying, you'll get there.

There's a lot more political load if they were to make a Wapanese GTA though - I mean, it's usually acceptable for a country / people to make fun of itself, but it's a different game when you poke fun at someone else .

...Of course, they make fun of Chinese in GTA too. Nevermind, .

They would rule if they did GTA Baghdad though. Poke fun at the war and the middle east and stuff. Plus they could add Dubai, which is growing out to become the most glamorous / expensive city evar. Not sure if there's any gangs there though, but... fuck it, .

GTA pretty much makes fun of everyone already tbh, blacks, mexicans, asians, white people, you name it. Pretty sure GTA4 had some jokes about tentacle porn too.

Also, I'm sure you can find gangs most anywhere, and even if you couldn't, well it's a game we can take certain liberties

 

[stiles]

Mommy, can I have some herp with my derp? Read the shit you're writing. It doesn't even make sense, but keep trying, you'll get there.

Um. What about it doesn't make sense?

 

[Octo]

Also tbh, I feel like it's about time GTA moved past these generic criminal stories. For once I'd like to play as a normal guy with a normal life, who gets swept up in shit he can't control and does his best to do right by himself and his people.

This.

I think they've run the 'low level criminal rises through the ranks' formula into the ground now. They've proven that they can make a believable world to play in, so why not do something else with it? Doesn't mean it has to be free from violence or humor, or even cars for that matter.

Actually, I'd like something where you get to live out your life as you see fit, and everything is open ended, you're still working your way up a heirarchy but you can choose how you achieve that goal.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

There's a lot more political load if they were to make a Wapanese GTA though - I mean, it's usually acceptable for a country / people to make fun of itself, but it's a different game when you poke fun at someone else

Even though they're spot on the mark about their humor pointed towards Americans, Grand Theft Auto is made by Brits, though.

Yeah most people are usually surprised to find that out.

 

[Tetsujin]

youre like a 50 year old harassing me

This made me lol. =')