...How do you even discriminate against a character of a game?
That's like being mad Zack dies and doesn't get a chance for a rematch with Sephiroth because he could beat him.
Aerith gets a "pass" because she's by design, a main character and it's the way the story's written. I don't even know what you're talking about or saying. No, not every character, can be a main character. Some characters are main and some are secondary. That's controversial to you?
You discriminate by not allowing her the possibility of being treated the same as her PC counterparts just because she isn't a PC. I know some characters are main and some secondary, but that doesn't mean that in some instances, secondary characters can't get some of the same level and treatment as mains do or be remembered and liked just as much.
...What you're asking for doesn't align with VII's story at all. That's such an out-there expectation you might as well go to AO3 because you're not finding that in the Remake, and if that's what you're expectation is, you're setting yourself up for some true despair. There's shipping-bait, and then there's unreasonable expectations. You're crossing over into the latter.
Making them have a slightly stronger connection than before doesn't have to negatively affect VII's story. I wasn't talking about anything full-on, which you seem to think I was asking for. Just something, even something small, to show that the possibility exists and could have happened had things been different.
They promoted her cause she's a character. In the story.
Wrong. If it was just because she was a character, then they could have just as easily replaced her with Biggs or Reno for those spots. But they didn't . They specifically chose
her for those spots and not someone else. And several of those spots feature her and Cloud together, and in closeups no less. Shots they could have done differently but deliberately chose to zoom in on them.
I'm saying you're being wildy hypocritical with this statement. How many threads have been derailed by your personal crusade for Jessie? You can't not argue about it.
If he hadn't argued first, I wouldn't have said anything.
By and large, I've stayed out of these debates with you because A- I'm admittedly not as well-versed in all of the compilation material, B- I'm not terribly great about putting my thoughts into words, and (this being bigger than any of the previous 2) C- You have made it crystal clear by this point that you aren't having an honest debate in good faith to settle an inconsistency between your views and others', you're doing it because they're wrong, and this must not stand.
No, I do this because people won't allow room for the possibility that I might
not be wrong and they insist on arguing about it rather than leave me be.
You take a solid, calm, rational argument with well-defined evidence to back it up as a personal attack. But people aren't attacking you. They're pointing out flaws in a claim you're making. Rather than consider these points and counter them, you seem to eventually resort to lashing out at the people making the arguments. You've said you feel ganged up on. That's not what anyone is trying to accomplish, and feeling that way is a problem on your part, not theirs.
No, I'm simply responding to what's being said. If you disagreed with them, would you still say their arguments were calm and rational? They're making assumptions about what they think I'm saying - for instance, they assume that I'm saying the only development Jessie should get is about her relationship with Cloud, when that's not what I've been saying at all. They think she can't have both character development of her own and at least a small return on her feelings at the same time, but it's quite possible.
Being ganged up may not be what they're trying to do, but that's the effect multiple people arguing with me has, and they should know that by now.
But regardless, without fail, the overall pattern goes as follows:
1 - You make a claim about Jessie, that is generally considered contrary to established lore. (I'm not going to argue this point, so don't bother quoting it back to me)
2 - Someone else points out why they think the claim you've put forward is wrong.
3 - You fire back why you think they're wrong.
4 - (Go to step 2)
5 - Repeat until everyone is pissed off/realizes it's pointless to continue, or a mod steps in.
So I can't ever reply to someone arguing with what I've said, then?
I've been down that road, and I'm not doing it again. I really hope you can one day develop the ability to take in an idea that is contrary to your own views, and process it as such without feeling to need to destroy it.
Just as soon as you and the others do the same for me and my ideas and seriously allow for the possibility that I may be right at least in part.
It also seems a bit hypocritical of people to want expansion and growth for Jessie's character in every area except that one. But that's a part of her character as well and should receive just as much growth and attention in the remake as every other part of her character and not be reduced to mindless empty flirting just as an excuse to avoid complications with Aerith and Tifa.
) It’s going to be strange for new players after 40-80 hours of fighting Shinra when there’s no final confrontation with the President. It’ll be even worse when the final battle (let’s be real, against Sephiroth) culminates in a fake-out and a “He’s still at large! Please buy Part 2 of ?? Parts.” It’s delicate. The more Sephiroth is present in Midgar, the more of a slap in the face that’s going to be.
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