Hopes for Remake & Rebirth (story/content)

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Kain424

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Yeah, fair points. Though I think what ChipNoir is saying is that the bar is far lower for him. And honestly, it's something I've been pondering myself. I am not sure what I need from this game. I suppose I want what I got the first time, but I won't mind being surprised. If I like the gameplay, I guess I'd be ecstatic.
 

Gary Caelum

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FFXV was a huge disappointment imo. The world felt pretty empty,

I actually quite liked this fact. Its world felt realistic. It didn't feel like a video game world like something Bethesda might make.

As long as they give you a good means of transport, I'm ok with quite empty worlds (they obviously still need plenty to do, but it doesn't need to be equally spread out across the map, is my point) The fact that it needed more interesting side-quests is largely independent of this. It could've had far better side-quests and still stuck with an empty world.
 
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ChipNoir

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Yeah, fair points. Though I think what ChipNoir is saying is that the bar is far lower for him. And honestly, it's something I've been pondering myself. I am not sure what I need from this game. I suppose I want what I got the first time, but I won't mind being surprised. If I like the gameplay, I guess I'd be ecstatic.

That's my position exactly. KHIII had more at stake for me because it was supposed to CONTINUE a franchise that I had a lot of expectations for based on Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, and Birth by Sleep which got progressively better. Everything else has so far been a major step backwards, and thus, I am on the bitter-sweet side of disappointment.

This remake I have no stakes in except for the visual presentation. Others of course can expect more because of their motivations of wanting to relive the original in a new way. My motivations are more provincial. Half of my interest is just because of all the debate the new material will provide. Even if its terrible, it'l be at least a three year's worth of conversations.

At best, it's still just an adaptation in my mind.
 

Gary Caelum

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I want it to recreate the experience of the original game whilst feeling new and different. If this remake was a verbatim copy of the original, just with better graphics, I think I'd be disappointed.

That's mostly because I just know the original so well, that I'd know everything that's going to happen.

I hope things like the dialog are completely rewritten. The environments could be redone too, as long as they follow the same style and general structure. Things like where the safe is located in the Shinra mansion. That can be changed just to add more challenge and more incentive to explore for old timers.
 

Castiel Strife

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Final Fantasy XV ended up as an amazing entry that's more than worthy of being an FF title. It suffered a slow start due to being rushed out of development hell (this is the same game that was trapped in its VS XIII hell) but to somehow tout that as indicative of being a failure is just plain ignorance. It's successful and loved for a reason.

As for KH3, that's an entirely different team and game series with its own unique curcumstances. It's so divorced from FF now that comparing it or trying to gleam any indication from its status is irrelevant. Those issues and development trials don't exist for FF. But yeah, that's successful too.

And DQ XI sold like gangbusters as well. So I'm not sure *what* point you're trying to make.

I loved Final Fantasy XV, too. It started out slow for me, but once I got into it I was really into it and even platinumed it. That turtle was a fun fight!

As for the whole locking us out of areas with each installment discussion, I would be okay with it only if it were like it already is on the original game, as was already suggested here. When you have the tiny bronco you can only go to certain areas, obviously, and that sort of thing. I really, really hope that they don’t lock us out of the previous installment every time a new installment releases. That’s where they need to find a clever way to do this “episodic” thing.

But we all know that if it is in three parts, it won’t be broken up the way the original game was. Not if they are going for a “full game” on each new release. If the third game equaled the third disc, there would hardly be anything left to do. All of these reasons are why I still believe two parts is the most logical way to go about this, but they probably will do at least three for the cash grab.
 
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Kain424

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Yes.

I think it would be neat if in each installment, things change just a little in areas you've already been. Books on shelves could re-arrange, dirty tables could be cluttered and cleaned and vice versa. I'd like little details like that. I'm not going to be mad or anything if they don't but I am a bit OCD like that.

Anyhow, I was thinking. With the original game being ported over to the Switch here in a bit, I bet they're holding back on releasing information until after that. What do you all think?
 

ChipNoir

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Neh, I still think they're just waiting for the new financial year. Part of that is because they'll need those final numbers to pan out to decide what kind of a marketing budget to give the remake.
 

Gary Caelum

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I think it would be neat if in each installment, things change just a little in areas you've already been. Books on shelves could re-arrange, dirty tables could be cluttered and cleaned and vice versa. I'd like little details like that. I'm not going to be mad or anything if they don't but I am a bit OCD like that.

That sounds really cool for the 1% of people who would notice it! Lol
 

Castiel Strife

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Yes.

I think it would be neat if in each installment, things change just a little in areas you've already been. Books on shelves could re-arrange, dirty tables could be cluttered and cleaned and vice versa. I'd like little details like that. I'm not going to be mad or anything if they don't but I am a bit OCD like that.

Anyhow, I was thinking. With the original game being ported over to the Switch here in a bit, I bet they're holding back on releasing information until after that. What do you all think?

I think they’re just letting Kingdom Hearts III settle in right now. I believe we will get a lot of 7emake news at E3 during Square’s conference. I think we will get a lot of gameplay, and a release date/window. My guess is the first part will release very early next year, January or so, like Kingdom Hearts III did this year. I’d love to see it earlier, but I just wouldn’t think they’d release it the same year KH3 released. I just hope the first part doesn’t release any later than 2020. We’ve waited patiently long enough.
 

Gary Caelum

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KH3 was originally intended to be a 2018 game, and was finished months ago. They did delay it just to avoid the highly competitive christmas schedule.
That might mean their '1 big game a year' thing allows FF7 this year. Probably not, but who knows.
 

Castiel Strife

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KH3 was originally intended to be a 2018 game, and was finished months ago. They did delay it just to avoid the highly competitive christmas schedule.
That might mean their '1 big game a year' thing allows FF7 this year. Probably not, but who knows.

It could be this year, but I’d assume that at the earliest the game could be ready by late 2019. In that case, it’d put them in the same scenario Kingdom Hearts III was in. Every holiday season has a lot of gaming competition. Not sure what all we will see this year, but I’m sure there will be a lot of games.

Of course, it’s possible they’re way further along than we think and that it could release earlier than the holiday season, but I just don’t foresee that.
 

Ite

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2020 at the earliest, but I wouldn’t be surprised by no announced release date at all and another 4 years of waiting.
 

Gary Caelum

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It could be this year, but I’d assume that at the earliest the game could be ready by late 2019.

Does anyone have any real clue as to how much work they've done on it? They frankly could have 5 years of work done, and it's almost ready for release.
Alternatively, there are the stories that say they had to throw several years of work from Cyberconnect in the trash. Hard to know what the truth is based on just rumors!
 

pxp

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Seeing as the conversation seems to be hovering on this though I also posted in the catch all thread:

Verbatim c&p of smackynopants’ post on the FF7R Subreddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake/comments/as9my9
Square just posted their investor briefing in which they expect a big increase in revenue (as stated before) in Q3 of their fiscal year 2020. Which means between October - December 2019. They expect 40-50 billion yen, which is double that of Q2 and Q3 of 2018 combined. This can only mean FF7R the way i see it.

Q: What can you tell us about the timeline for your FY2020/3 releases?

A: I cannot go into any detail at the moment, but I believe we will be able to make various announcements in the leadup to this year’s E3.

Q: How likely are you to reach your operating income target of ¥40-50 billion with the lineup you have planned for FY2020/3?

A: We believe operating income of ¥40-50 billion will be attainable in FY2020/3 with the lineup we currently have planned, but we still see risk of deviating from our target depending on when we release new titles and on how our development efforts progress.

Read the entire thing here http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/19q3Outline.pdf
 

Claymore

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A fiscal year ends in April 30th. A third of that would be as stated above, so a potential holiday release would fall around October to December 2019.
 

Gary Caelum

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I realise that's when the fiscal year ends. But "fiscal year 2020" could still mean the year that starts in April 2020, rather than the year that ends there.

I'm just not familiar with the standard terminology for such things.
 

Claymore

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I realise that's when the fiscal year ends. But "fiscal year 2020" could still mean the year that starts in April 2020, rather than the year that ends there.

I'm just not familiar with the standard terminology for such things.

Yeah the terminology 'Fiscal Year 2020' means from April 2019 to April 2020. So as stated in the snippit, a holiday release for the fiscal year 2020 could only be oct to december 2019.
 

KiwiPizza

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It could be this year, but I’d assume that at the earliest the game could be ready by late 2019. In that case, it’d put them in the same scenario Kingdom Hearts III was in. Every holiday season has a lot of gaming competition. Not sure what all we will see this year, but I’m sure there will be a lot of games.

Of course, it’s possible they’re way further along than we think and that it could release earlier than the holiday season, but I just don’t foresee that.

You’ll get the usual annual Call of Duty, FIFA etc around that time, but I’d hope SE stick to holiday 2019 as it’s the Final Fantasy 7 Remake! It should be able to take on any game
 
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