Hopes for Remake & Rebirth (story/content)

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To the best of my understanding, the fiscal year as SE records it is the same as the Japanese government recognizes it. I'll check into it further, but I believe the key transformative wording here is placing "ending" after "fiscal year."

The fiscal year that ends in 2019 is not Fiscal Year 2019.
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Okay I am confused, because the article posted a few pages back says Q3 of Fiscal Year 2020 for SE would be October-December of 2019 (i.e. the fiscal year for 2020 is from April 2019 to March 2020), doesn’t that mean SE’s fiscal’s year is different from Japan’s (if I am understanding you correctly you’re saying Japan’s 2019 Fiscal Year is April 2019 to March 2020).
 
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Ah yeah, I think you're right. I guess SQE is following the US model, except retaining the Japanese dates (in the US the FY is from 1 Oct- 30 Sep):

"In Japan, the government's financial year is from 1 April to 31 March. The fiscal year is represented by the calendar year in which the period begins, followed by the word nendo (年度); for example the fiscal year from 1 April 2018 to 31 March 2019 is called 2018–nendo."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year#Japan

Referencing in turn: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ja.html
 
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That's a common claim that they ditched it because action has more of a mainstream appeal.

And yet, FF7 is still the best selling in the series.

My theory is they've largely ditched turn-based because it doesn't make for very good preview trailers. They want something that looks flashy! Characters calmly standing in a line waiting for their turn has always looked a bit silly.
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Because of the use of cinematics is why FFVII sold and that marketing. Like you can't think that it sold on the battle system.
 
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Yes although the vast majority of that audience stuck around for FF8 as well, so not many people were alienated by it.
 
Makoeyes987

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The ATB system isnt alienating so much as dated.

Games that use it now are usually throwbacks to classic styles RPGs. Ever since FFXII S-E's been trying to find ways to augment or upgrade it in ways that focus on more real time strategy or action-like dynamics.

Its simply just old fashioned in terms of combat. It's not bad but it's also a classic at this point. You're right it's part publicity but it's also just a fact of making the gameplay more engaging and dynamic.

Action allows for more immersion and less of a divide between the mechanics of battle and their fit inside the story.

FFXIII, FFXIV and FFXV truly exemplify the seamless interaction and integration of how the battles fit within the context of the story. Until modern FFs, that was a thing that confounded players.
 
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Ever since X-2 I'd say.

Still I love the XIII battle system and that's kinda ATB still. Ideally I'd like something that's XIII battles but with multi-character moves. I'm imagining something like XIII mixed with Xenoblade Chronicles.
 
Kain424

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Currently happy with how they have FFXV set up. Doing something like that for Final Fantasy VII would be great, because all of the characters would control slightly different and would allow a decent level of customization for an individual player's play style. Plus, I am super interested in seeing how Red XIII and Cait Sith play. To say nothing of Barret and Vincent, who will both be using long range weaponry (though I would imagine Vincent being something closer to Ignis).
 
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I think I've enjoyed pretty much every battle system they've ever made. X-2, XII, XIII, Lightning Returns, Crisis Core, XV.

They're all pretty good imo. So it's not something I really worry about Squenix doing badly. Storytelling is where they're more liable to screw things up.
 
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Well, since the main story for Final Fantasy VII is pretty great, they shouldn't have too much of a problem. I suppose it's always possible to mess even that up (looking at you, Last Order), but I'm feeling good about it at the moment.
 
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Yeah I've been pretty optimistic about this game since it was announced, for that exact reason. Storytelling is what they've struggled at the most for the last decade, and that's largely already taken care of for this game.

The parts that they're mostly going to change from the original are the battle system and the environmental design. But those are 2 of the things they've never been bad at. (and graphical quality obviously, which they're also pretty good at)
 
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Yeah, with regards to those they are truly among the best. I have seen a few things rather recently (the Resident Evil 2 remake, Red Dead Redemption) that compare, but few other games do.

If we're being honest, however, I think there is actually a significant possibility the Final Fantasy VII remake could severely disappoint and it is worth keeping our expectations in check. We all want graphics so good we swear we can smell the grass of the overworld map, but at least I am trying very hard to be measured in my excitement. They say all the right things in interviews, but they could absolutely butcher this thing and we won't have a hint of that until we see another proper trailer.
 
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It's fine to have that in mind, but it's worth noting how each console generation has raised expectations. Most of us wouldn't even be talking about the Remake if it weren't for that PS3 Tech Demo. People absolutely do want to see this look as good as it can, and that is a huge amount of the want for a remake in the first place.

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Now personally, they could have done something that looked almost cell-shaded and I would have been ecstatic. I've seen fan art that would be amazing to see in a game, that also isn't "realistic". I would be fine. But to a lot of people, and I think this has a lot to do with console expectations, they want it nearly lifelike.
 
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People absolutely do want to see this look as good as it can, and that is a huge amount of the want for a remake in the first place.
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It definitely needs to look good. But I was just making the point that there are different meanings to "looks good" nowadays in gaming. There's the looking good in terms of advanced graphics techniques, so something looks more realistic (e.g FFXV "looks better" than FFXIII).
But there's also just looking good in terms of art design, character design, thoughtful environmental detail etc (in which case FFXV doesn't really look much better than XIII at all, they're pretty much equivalent.
 
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ATB to FF is what tank controls and fixed cameras are to Resident Evil. They could creatively revisit the classic style, but it`s not very likely. I don`t think it`s particularly necessary for the remake to be successful.

Looking at what`s been done so far - I think it would be cool if FF took a more simplified Monster Hunter type dodging model, with a more pronounced class system and a higher focus on spell casting. Have primary control over 1 character, but be able to switch over for different enemies who are more susceptible to different play styles. Hell, throw in an online mode where people can join in as certain enemies down for a bigger challenge/reward.
 
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My God...

That just made me realize..

You know they're gonna try to add some sort of online component for this game, right?

No single player game these days don't have some sort of multiplayer add on accompany it. Hell, FFXV had one.

Not to knock on Comrades but I'm just sayin'.

You know S-E's gonna want to add one for FFVII. I just wonder what exactly it could be and how would it work....
 
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Makoeyes987 said:
My God...

That just made me realize..

You know they're gonna try to add some sort of online component for this game, right?

No single player game these days don't have some sort of multiplayer add on accompany it. Hell, FFXV had one.

Not to knock on Comrades but I'm just sayin'.

You know S-E's gonna want to add one for FFVII. I just wonder what exactly it could be and how would it work....
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That’s easy. Chocobo racing or really anything related to the Gold Saucer and mini games. Online chocobo racing could be pretty fun.

I don’t mind an online portion of FF7 as long as it remains separate from the story. A co-op adventure (now that it seems we are an action RPG) after the main story could be pretty dope, or as I already said the gold saucer mini games. I wouldn’t really want the game itself to be co-op, but I guess it wouldn’t be bad if it were only an option. I very seriously doubt they’d do that at all, though, and I think the mini games are much more likely.
 
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As long as they make the multiplayer part optional, like Comrades, I'm fine with that. Comrades was vaguely fun to play single player. Although would've been better if they got rid of that dumb multiplayer loading area and just went straight to the levels.
 
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Gary Caelum said:
Yeah I've been pretty optimistic about this game since it was announced, for that exact reason. Storytelling is what they've struggled at the most for the last decade, and that's largely already taken care of for this game.
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Is it, though? The story is taken care of, but at least as I understand the notion, the storytelling will unavoidably be getting a massive overhaul.
 
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