Lulcielid
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Kingdom Hearts III
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ForceStealer
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Surprise! It's a remix of Sanctuary!
Cloud_S
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Excellent! I want KH3 to look stunning. It already looks very impressive, but if they can go to an even higher level of detail? I'm all for it.
Dashell
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Surprise! It's a remix of Sanctuary!
I know this is a joke but then why would they hire her as oppose to just remix the old track?
ForceStealer
Double Growth
To justify simply remixing the old track. SHE remixed it.
Tashasaurous
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Nomura could easily have been lying about this by doing the complete opposite. Whatever he says these days are opposites.
For example nearly five years ago, he'd said that he had no intentions of making a HD version of Dream Drop Distance and that would lead directly into Kingdom Hearts 3.....
Yet look what he did; 2.8-DDD HD and A Fragmenty Passage.
And how he said that there were ideas for future FFVII titles of the storyline(like explaining the return of Genesis and Weiss)....yet instead we get ports of the original game and a Remake. Everything he says is just the opposite of he's actually doing, if you know what I'm saying.
After making numberous spin-off titles that had been delaying KH3 for so long, I don't think there's gonna be another Saga of the franchise.
ForceStealer
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As usual, you highly overrate Nomura's authority at Square. He doesn't run the company.
Tetsujin
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That isn't correct.
The 3DS version was barely even out five years ago and the first HD Remix wasn't even announced yet.
And after the announcement of the second one in 2013 he said they'd have to consider porting DDD to consoles as it wouldn't make sense for it to be left out.
Tashasaurous
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Okay, so why didn't the company let Nomura do KH3 already and solve the secret ending of Dirge of Cerberus(despite that only a few people including me on this site loves the Compilation)?
Did they really hate the idea of Kingdom Hearts 3 and future sequels for Final Fantasy VII so much that they're trying to edge Nomura to cancel those plans just for what they want?
Edit: Okay so other than the Final Fantasy XV(when it was still Versus XIII) crisis since Nomura isn't a writer, he still would've had time to realise the problem with why Genesis picked up Weiss's body and what the hell he plans on doing with the dead body with a still messed up mind by calling him his brother when they're aren't even related, Jenova cells be damned, and Square would've known this too.
The 3DS version came out in 2012 in March and it's 2017 now. You add five up from 2012, that equals five years. Plus, no one really knew about the HD Remix because everyone thought that after the 3DS version then KH3 would be the next game to release. But no, Square decided to force Nomura to change his mind.
There's more to life than quality, in my opinion.
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Tetsujin
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Yes I went through first grade maths, I'm keeping up.
The point is, Nomura didn't say a thing about having no intention to release a DDD HD port because the 3DS version was only about to be released.
When the question came up after announcing the HD ReMixes he essentially said that there definitely is intent.
...change his mind on what?
Someone help me out but this is a non sequitur, isn't it?
Tashasaurous
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Funny. I do recall him mentioning this.
...This was when the game itself was released almost five years ago. He could've just focused on releasing KH3 since he left the development of FFXV or was kicked off of the development in favor for Tabata(though I gotta admit, he's more of a 'lets kill the main playable character/protagonist and make people cry for a sad ending' kind of guy-Final Fantasy Type-0 was the good example for that), and released for PS3 years ago.
On releasing KH3 straight away for PS3 with the same technology before 2015 when everyone dumped the technology they used for the last ten years and possibly told him to keep on giving the previous games to keep everyone on a cliff-hanging loophole.
Plus I think they had something to do with keeping him, Tabata and...the original director of FFVII away from remaking Before Crisis and finishing off the FFVII storyline instead of leaving people up to their imaginations while those who want the real answer to be canon in a loop to the point of giving up all together and then they lose fans all together.
Not a smart move.
Someone help me out but this is a non sequitur, isn't it?
Not sure if you meant by either literary device or logic, but really, for games with storylines(KH for example) the story and personalities of characters are very important too, not just the quality. The sad thing about storyline games these days is people care more about the quality and thus this is why games fail, because of lack of storyline since it wasn't written right.
Tetsujin
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I see what you mean but that referred to a Final Mix version, not an HD console port.
"Nomura also said that there are no plans at present for Birth By Sleep 2 or a "Final Mix" version of KH3D. Square Enix previously released updated "Final Mix" versions of Birth By Sleep and Kingdom Hearts II."
http://andriasang.com/con0vm/nomura_kh_announce/
They started development after DDD. There was no releasing "straight away". Developing games takes a LONG time. There was no way KH3 could've ever come out on PS3 at that point and especially not within two to three years.
Tashasaurous
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They seem to have done a pretty good job in releasing the handheld games in just a few years from each other, not to mention redoing Coded twice in just a space of two to three years, especially with PS3.
AND also having done so with 2.8 releasing next week in Japan. Really, I think people are getting faster in the graphics. It's the storyline and keep on getting distracted by going several other games at the same time is what gets to me.
Plus, 0.2 is a sequel to Birth by Sleep, thus "Birth By Sleep 2".
Yeah, running a company with booze is definately a bad idea, especially with what achohol can do to a person. I've seen what that gross liquid can do more than once and thank Odin I chose to stay far away from it.
At least he wasn't made President of the failure New York ShinRa Company that only lasted just one year before being shut down, not like the one in Final Fantasy VII's universe.
Ryuman
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Nomura is careful to explain that the ReMIX titles have little interference with KH3's development. They're kind of side-by-side developments. The real positive thing with them is that you can release KH titles, get people caught up and attract new players previously unable to go through the series. By keeping a steady flow of games, you can give KH3 more development time since the pressure is off slightly to deliver more content in the KH series. This is especially true of 2.8.
With 2.8, you can easily just front-end the development of that section of KH3's story (0.2). Just slice off that part off and develop it, optimise it and all that jazz on its own. It's all KH3 assets, really. Besides, graphics aren't necessarily the issue with big-budget games. It's content building, debugging, optimisation. Things you have to do separately between 2.8 and 3.Tashasaurous said:
The interview you mention is post-3D. Back in the times of Birth by Sleep, there were ideas of continuing that story, as Nomura still had things he wanted to establish within the time gap- Birth by Sleep -Volume Two-. Nomura explains in later times that despite these ideas existing at one point, they ultimately had to abandon them, hence the answer in that interview. However, we now know Nomura wanted to salvage those key ideas in 3. Although, they decided to move that part of development into 2.8. If you look at it that way you can say that nothing really ever changed.Tashasaurous said:
Funny, since the original concept of KH Coded (Then not really going to be a KH title) was put forward by Nomura while drunk
(Sorry if something isn't clear. I'm in a bit of a rush as a write this)
Tashasaurous
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I guess you have a bit of a point.
However, what does this mean for the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII's future? He did say after Advent Children Complete's release that they had ideas for future FFVII titles for the storyline since it wasn't the end of the series all together.
Yet while he was mentioning about KH3 and such, still nothing's come up with whether they had abandoned those ideas for future titles of the Compilation or not. Not to mention they're still using Cloud's AC attire for other games such as Dissidia Arcade, Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS, and having brought up Shelke in World of Final Fantasy, while doing redesigns for the remake(personally, I'd much rather have them keep the AC designs with the new technology they're using now like they did for Dissidia Arcade since that's more closer to my taste than using Unreal Engine 4 and the new icky designs by using the original game's designs).
I am hoping that on the 31st of this month that they'll confirm something about the Compilation's future on whether it's future conclusion(via answering Genesis's reason of using Weiss's body) is stuck in a cliff-hanger or that they've halted the progress or simply are still taking their time.
Anyway, developing several other games while halting progress for the more important ones for several years is seriously a bad move. They've wasted ten years for FFXV(and while the graphics are impressives and the music is beautifully done-thank Yoko for that one-, the story was...kind of a hit and miss. The ending wasn't as emotional as Tabata had said and what I have been expecting).