Kingdom Hearts

[Emma]

Why does Master Xehanort look nothing like Xehanort? How long ago did the events described in KH2 between Ansem and his students happen?

Maybe he went through some horrible experiment and it backfired and deformed him...?

 

[Max Payne]

Can we move on from the Org 13 losers and the mess that is their story? Thank god BBS isn't about those fags, and KH3 won't be.

 

[Dark and Divine]

Thank you for posting it though. I try to read it by zooming in.

No need!

Check them here, here and here.

 

[Emma]

Sure thing. I was asking questions about the game, but only a few of them were answered.

I'll ask again; does anyone know if the checkerboard thing is true about this game?

EDIT:
Thanks again, Dark and Divine!

 

[Dark and Divine]

Thanks again, Dark and Divine!

You're welcome!

And if anyone's interested, here's what's been said in the trailer:

There is no chance in destiny


[Land of Departure]

Aqua: There is a world somewhere out there that has a tree with star-shaped fruit, they say that those fruits are a promise to keep people connected. And they also say that if you have a good luck charm made from the skin of those fruits, no matter how far apart you are you’ll always come back together someday. So here’s one for all of us! It will keep us connected.
Eraqus: Now we will begin the Master Qualifications Exam. This is a test of the heart for those who have been chosen by the Keyblade. Fortunately, Master Xehanort was able to come from far away to see this...

[Neverland]

Tinkerbell: I’m gonna kick you as hard as I can!
Ven: Is that Mickey’s star fragment?
Hook: Looks like we got a surprising extra with this shooting star.

[Castle of Dreams]

Terra: You must make your heart strong. No matter what happens, if your heart is strong you will be able to overcome it.
Aqua: Is it alright if I try on the glass slipper?

[Dwarf Woodlands]

Ven: Hey, you dropped this.
Queen: If you listen to my request, then you may ask the mirror the whereabouts of this Xehanort.
Ven: Surely not Terra!?
Doc: That man used a monster to attack Snow White.
Aqua: What happened here?
Doc: Snow White, she...

[Deep Space]

Aqua: Watch out!
Ven: Do you know Terra and Aqua!?
Stitch: Friend... bonds...
Stitch: ????
Ven: What happened?

[Gathering Place ?]

Ven: What do you mean Terra will no longer be Terra!?
Vanitas: I mean it exactly as I said it. The “existence” known as Terra will soon disappear.
Ven: Keyblade...!
Vanitas: Show me your strength...

[Land of Departure]

Terra: Master Xehanort, what should I be learning?
Xehanort: What you have been. You don’t have to rid the darkness in your heart, you should control it.
Aqua: Terra won’t fall into darkness.

[Radiant Garden]

Even: I think I might have some sort of connection to you in the future....
Dilan: What business do you have here!?
Aeleus: You cannot enter the castle!

[Gathering Place]

Xehanort: Look. The ruins of many keys who took on the powers of their masters are here in the place, where there was a fight between light and darkness. The remains of the Keyblade Wars.

Once again, credits go to Lissar of KHinsider.

 

[ForceStealer]

Maybe he went through some horrible experiment and it backfired and deformed him...?

But if it is the same guy, why would both his Heartless and his Nobody look like his younger, healthier self?

And what's with Kingdom Hearts taking names previously belonging to FF females and giving them to males? Riku, Terra...I know Terra was only so-named outside of Japan, but still.

 

[Dark and Divine]

But if it is the same guy, why would both his Heartless and his Nobody look like his younger, healthier self?

There's a long lived theory that the Xenahort we see in KH and KHII is not really Master Xenahort, but Terra after embracing the Darkness in his heart or something like that.

I think this theory was based in the fact that KHII's Xenahort and Terra have somewhat similar hairstyles.

And what's with Kingdom Hearts taking names previously belonging to FF females and giving them to males? Riku, Terra...I know Terra was only so-named outside of Japan, but still.

Maybe we're living in an age where cocks are the most "in" acessories?

Maybe the guys at S-E turned gay and decided that being a girl is not cool anymore?

 

[Emma]

There's a long lived theory that the Xenahort we see in KH and KHII is not really Master Xenahort, but Terra after embracing the Darkness in his heart or something like that.

That could actually happen

 

[Dark and Divine]

That could actually happen

Yep, specially considering that Xenahort took Ansem's name.

He could be Terra taking baldy's name.

 

[ForceStealer]

There's a long lived theory that the Xenahort we see in KH and KHII is not really Master Xenahort, but Terra after embracing the Darkness in his heart or something like that.

Wait wait wait wait wait. You're telling me (according to this theory) that the villains in KH 1 and 2 are the heartless and nobody, respectively, of Terra pretending to be Xehanort pretending to be Ansem?

Damn I hope not.

 

[Dark and Divine]

Wait wait wait wait wait. You're telling me (according to this theory) that the villains in KH 1 and 2 are the heartless and nobody, respectively, of Terra pretending to be Xehanort pretending to be Ansem?

Fan's speculation and theories are fun(ny), aren't they?

 

[Dashell]

Uh...maybe if they didn't sell their hearts to the darkness, they wouldn't be in that situation in the first place.

nobody's perfect.... no pun intended... And yes the first 6 members sold their hearts to darkness, but we don't know how the others became heartless. (do we?)

And why the hell do you feel bad for Vexen? All of his misfortune is his own fault for being a greedy, narcissistic scientist who played god with other people's emotions and hearts.

I like Vexen. Yeah I know he did wrong by selling his heart to darkness and he wasn't a very nice guy. But I still like him and I still felt bad when he was killed.

Xemnas is a liar. Why would you take anything he says at face value?

But he was by himself there... was he lying to himself? Maybe the other nobodies could hear him, I dunno.

Uh, Mickey DID like him. He states that they were friends, and they talked often when they met. What he didn't agree with was Ansem living for revenge on the Organization.

Which is what I meant, he didn't like Ansem doing revengey stuff.

You need to go over to Maiki's livejournal where she translated select portions of the novel in her journal. She has it tagged and stuff over there.

I shall check it out, thanks.

Can we move on from the Org 13 losers and the mess that is their story? Thank god BBS isn't about those fags, and KH3 won't be.

wait we know what KH3 will be about?

 

[DrakeClawfang]

wait we know what KH3 will be about?

I'd say it's fairly obvious - BBS is clearly meant to set up plot points for KH3 the same way CoM set up KH2. KH Coded probably contributes too.

But yeah, let's move on from Org 13.

 

[Emma]

I agree. I just saw the checkerboard thing I was talking about. Thank gods its only in Multi-player mode lol

 

[ForceStealer]

wait we know what KH3 will be about?

Well while this by no means an assured thing with this medium, they are all dead.

 

[Makoeyes987]

nobody's perfect.... no pun intended... And yes the first 6 members sold their hearts to darkness, but we don't know how the others became heartless. (do we?)

Doesn't really matter. The Organization was born from the sins and betrayal of those six, and most of the problems of KH stem from the founding six. They're nothing close to victims. Some may be sympathetic but a majority of them are cold blooded, traitorous schemers.

I like Vexen. Yeah I know he did wrong by selling his heart to darkness and he wasn't a very nice guy. But I still like him and I still felt bad when he was killed.

Fair enough to like the guy, but don't try to paint him as some innocent victim, when he made his own bed and laid in it. The guy was a cold, calculating scumbag who just happened to meet someone more calculating adn ruthless than him. He got what he deserved.

But he was by himself there... was he lying to himself? Maybe the other nobodies could hear him, I dunno.

That doesn't negate all the other times Xemnas states that he wants KH exclusively for himself. Such as his secret report in 358/2 that states he's not interested in getting a heart to be human at all. Not only that, but he intends to take KH for himself entirely, to become a god and rule all of existence.

Which is what I meant, he didn't like Ansem doing revengey stuff.

You made it sound like Mickey didn't like Ansem at all. Ansem has every right to be pissed, but Mickey didn't want Ansem to hurt himself living a life for vengeance. It's not healthy.

 

[Emma]

You made it sound like Mickey didn't like Ansem at all. Ansem has every right to be pissed, but Mickey didn't want Ansem to hurt himself living a life for vengeance. It's not healthy.

Wise words, Mako Eyes

Isn't anyone else upset about the gosh-darn checkerboard!?

 

[Tetsujin]

Wait wait wait wait wait. You're telling me (according to this theory) that the villains in KH 1 and 2 are the heartless and nobody, respectively, of Terra pretending to be Xehanort pretending to be Ansem?

Damn I hope not.

Lol xD

Maybe Xehanort wants a younger body and transfers his soul into Terra later on and that's why Xehanort ends up looking like Terra.

Meh, tbh, I have enough of all these new characters that end up looking like previous ones in order to make us speculate. It's always the same bullshit...

 

[Makoeyes987]

Tesujin: NOMURA..QUIT DICKING ME AROUND

Basically,

 

[ForceStealer]

Well this Ven guy looking SO MUCH like Roxas makes no sense to me and actually hope its just lazy design, because I cannot think of ANY WAY they can relate him to Roxas that won't be at worst, stupid, and at best, a retcon - probably both.

 

[Max Payne]

How could Terra be the heartless masquerading as Ansem in KH1 when he's in KH2 as the armored knight?

 

[Max Payne]

Well this Ven guy looking SO MUCH like Roxas makes no sense to me and actually hope its just lazy design, because I cannot think of ANY WAY they can relate him to Roxas that won't be at worst, stupid, and at best, a retcon - probably both.

I agree with this too.

Ven looks too goddamn much like Roxas.

 

[Emma]

Well this Ven guy looking SO MUCH like Roxas makes no sense to me and actually hope its just lazy design, because I cannot think of ANY WAY they can relate him to Roxas that won't be at worst, stupid, and at best, a retcon - probably both.

Maybe its Roxas' real life, before he turned to a Nobody. Maybe when Sora unlocked his heart in KH1 that's not when Roxas was created. Maybe in this game, Roxas comes from his Ventus.

I hope that made sense

 

[ForceStealer]

That doesn't make sense though, Sora is Roxas' real self. And if it wasn't Roxas, that would mean Sora still has a Nobody out there we haven't met yet.

Although...Nobodies are the left over shell when a heartless is created, but Sora got his body back, so I was never quite sure how Roxas still existed anyway....&%(#in' kingdom hearts...

 

[Emma]

That doesn't make sense though, Sora is Roxas' real self. And if it wasn't Roxas, that would mean Sora still has a Nobody out there we haven't met yet.

Although...Nobodies are the left over shell when a heartless is created, but Sora got his body back, so I was never quite sure how Roxas still existed anyway....&%(#in' kingdom hearts...

Well, what if Ventus is is Roxas, but Ventus become a heartless. Another keyblade master destroyed the "Ventus" heartless and released the heart. And then that heart met up with Sora. You can't say that part can't happen, because it has with Kiari(?) and he held her heart. So anyway, what if Ventus' Heartless' heart went into Sora somehow and then when Sora unlocked his own heart, freed Ventus' heart as a Noboby but was now called "Roxas"?

Pretty crazy theory, but it could happen