Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII

[Splintered]

Screenshots of the samurai outfit she's getting (that we may or may not be getting? I'd rather have Cloud's anyway- victory fanfare and all)

 

[Lex]

Hold up, I'm starting to see a bit of a theme here:

Why would Dajh be in that situation? (asleep and soulless?)

Maybe they're doing a kind of thing where in this alt-world someone you love is like held hostage by fate:

Snow, Lightning, Noel: Serah
Sazh: Dajh
Fang: Possibly Vanille?
Hope: Maybe his dad or something?

I'm reaching obviously but hey, it's a random theory

 

[Blade]

Heart Stealer > Locke's outfit from FF6 guys. (Ah nevermind, Thief'd lol)

Anyway, that whole "save/sacrifice" thing sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

Maybe you won't be able to save anyone AT FIRST and it'll just be a sad ending, but if you restart a few playthroughs and get stronger you'll be able to do more positive stuff.

Also I am hyped that Lightning now has "Jump" and a spear!

 

[Splintered]

Anyway, that whole "save/sacrifice" thing sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

Maybe you won't be able to save anyone AT FIRST and it'll just be a sad ending, but if you restart a few playthroughs and get stronger you'll be able to do more positive stuff.

I'm probably thinking that saving all of your all party members is mandatory, or at least easily done. I think the sacrifice/save will go down to random NPCs, just because the game is designed so that you can't do every mission.

A lot of what happens seems to be based on the time. Like the Colosseum battles, they are constantly going and they are not based on what you fight before or who you chose to fight but what time is the fight. It could be that you'll have to do things like, chose between a mission of saving people, or trying to fight a monster for the best weapon of the game (in which- sorry npcs, final weapons are important).

Anyway

As Gamescom continues in Germany, we have a few new screenshots to share courtesy of Square Enix that show off a feature of the game called Chronostasis. Seen below, this feature seems to be linked to timed quests that Lightning will have to fulfill in her journey. Remember, there are thirteen days left until the end of the world, and the savior starts off with seven at the beginning of her journey. By restoring light to Yggdrasil, Lightning can increase her time to a maximum of thirteen days.

Spoiler: images

It seems redundant to have a timed mission during... a timed games. I mean, you are probably already hauling ass to get as many missions as you can accomplish already. But whatever.

Oh and Kuja posted a really cool theory (I was hoping he had posted here first so we could talk about it) about the sick white chocobo= Odin. It's pretty freaking awesome.

Spoiler

bet this guy is a weakened Odin, Why? #1.
Hostess: Will Eidolons or summons make an appearance again?

Toriyama: The summons were created by the Goddess Etro in the world of Final Fantasy XIII, so at the end of XIII-2 when Etro lost her power, it means the summons lost their powers also. They won’t be able to appear as they would, in their original form.
2.
there exists a mysterious white chocobo known as the “angel of Valhalla.” Although saved from certain death, the white chocobo does not appear to want to eat… For some reason it will only respond to Lightning, and so she agrees to look after it and nurse it back to health.
In the Bible, Angels are messengers of God
In FFXIII, Eidolons are messengers of Etro as said in Analect IX
The goddess sought nothing. The goddess made nothing. The goddess only pities. The goddess pities those destined for death and so she placed those who were to take countless lives to sleep and prevented the destruction. Even more so than those bound for death, she pities those bound to a cruel mission. To those who become worn by despair and lose sight of their path, she sends her messengers; to guide them towards hope.

3.
Look at the colors, the Chocobo has hints of green on him.
4.
Who else only responds/is extremely loyal to Lightning?

http://kuja9001.tumblr.com/post/59030345740/odin-theory

Seriously though, I really hope this is the case. I wanted Odin back in the final game because he's been there since game one, and it feels weird that he wouldn't be with Lightning.

I remember watching the trailer and thinking, "what the hell, why focus on a sick chocobo when the world is ending, but if that's Odin, then yes. I will sacrifice mindless npcs for him.

 

[Alex Strife]

Actually, I'm sold on that theory! Sounds good.

 

[Arianna]

Locke is greater than Lightning.

Oh and Kuja posted a really cool theory (I was hoping he had posted here first so we could talk about it) about the sick white chocobo= Odin. It's pretty freaking awesome.

http://kuja9001.tumblr.com/post/59030345740/odin-theory

Seriously though, I really hope this is the case. I wanted Odin back in the final game because he's been there since game one, and it feels weird that he wouldn't be with Lightning.

I remember watching the trailer and thinking, "what the hell, why focus on a sick chocobo when the world is ending, but if that's Odin, then yes. I will sacrifice mindless npcs for him.

Some people care about all the life on - well, their - repsective planets!

But I agree, this is a very good speculation. I too am sold on it. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[Blade]

While it's a good theory, it's unclear what will really happen. The Chocobo's name might just be a coincidence.

Odin has appeared in many instances under different circumstances...even as a Paradox Distortion that Serah was able to tame.

I always liked the FF3-6 legends behind Odin, myself, regarding how he was once a King who protected his country for the sake of a woman he loved. In fact, I think the tears of a statue of that woman turned Odin in to Raiden at one point...maybe we'll see something like that in this case? Wishful thinking, I guess.

Really though, I prefer not to speculate on stuff until we have something more concrete to go on, otherwise we just start making up what we think will happen in our heads.

 

[ForceStealer]

Really though, I prefer not to speculate on stuff until we have something more concrete to go on, otherwise we just start making up what we think will happen in our heads.

Yeah, and then everyone gets disappointed when it isn't.

That samurai outfit is one of the few so far that looks truly cool.

 

[Arianna]

Really though, I prefer not to speculate on stuff until we have something more concrete to go on, otherwise we just start making up what we think will happen in our heads.

Makes a lot of sense. Still, it's very hard for me to not think on Lumina. I seriously feel she is connected to, if not, Lindzei or Mwynn. Yeah, she could be totally separate from them as well...

 

[Mwynn]

I think the real question here is who is that chocobo chick with Sazh when you can meet Chocolina in Luxerion and Yusnaan.

Someone suggested that it might be Dajh lmao

 

[Arianna]

I think the real question here is who is that chocobo chick with Sazh when you can meet Chocolina in Luxerion and Yusnaan.

Someone suggested that it might be Dajh lmao

Yeah, I think about that too... If Chocolina is the chocobo chick (who also has not aged, if anyone noticed, and I just thought of it!), how is she in two places at once?

 

[Farron]

I don't know why they made something so familiar to Locke ? I mean why couldn't they just make Locke's costume and make it a DLC or pre-order bonus like they did with Cloud ? As a Locke fangirl I'm kind of a little upset here.

 

[Glaurung]

Eh, it is a Locke costume, only they adapted it to Light's female forms and gave it another name.

 

[Farron]

Eh, it is a Locke costume, only they adapted it to Light's female forms and gave it another name.

Then why didn't they give Locke any attention like they did with Yuna and Cloud ? It seems a little unfair to those who love the older games.

 

[Shakarian]

New footage from Gamescom, showing some of the Wildlands.

 

[Mwynn]

Bear with the shaky camera and LQ. Short demo of the Wildlands showed at Gamescom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CisnhyX5OGo#t=73

edit: Well, Shakarian beat me to it.

Digging the dragoon armor so much. And... are those building ruins? They look like from Acedemia...

 

[Fangu]

1:42 - you can run!! I love that so much, it's something I have been missing from those games <3

Also I'm replaying XIII atm and I have to say I am kinda glad Hope is back to young!Hope now. Their dynamics in XIII is absolutely wonderful and I think adult Hope would have been a bit strange. I dunno. Hard to explain. I still think it's lame they would have him turn into an adult and then "turn him back", but anyway, I'm getting over it.

 

[Akai Hana]

1:42 - you can run!! I love that so much, it's something I have been missing from those games <3

Also I'm replaying XIII atm and I have to say I am kinda glad Hope is back to young!Hope now. Their dynamics in XIII is absolutely wonderful and I think adult Hope would have been a bit strange. I dunno. Hard to explain. I still think it's lame they would have him turn into an adult and then "turn him back", but anyway, I'm getting over it.

Well for me, I would love if they make Hope a bit older than he originally is. Anyway, just so you know, I totally ship LightningxHope. XD

 

[Kikki]

Don't if people already know this but the Cloud Soldier outfit and steelbook pre-order will be exclusive to GAME in the UK I believe.

http://www.game.co.uk/en/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-186488

 

[Blade]

Also I'm replaying XIII atm and I have to say I am kinda glad Hope is back to young!Hope now. Their dynamics in XIII is absolutely wonderful and I think adult Hope would have been a bit strange. I dunno. Hard to explain. I still think it's lame they would have him turn into an adult and then "turn him back", but anyway, I'm getting over it.

I just feel sorry for Hope's voice actor. Having to switch off between Young and Old like that.

From the sound of things it's almost like the events of FFXIII-2 was retconned out of history (almost like what happened with Lightning in FFXIII-2).

 

[ForceStealer]

Guess that's the beauty of time-travel stories

 

[Alex Strife]

Not so retconned, with Serah missing (apparently) and Noel and Mog being important characters, eh?

But still I see what you mean.

 

[Kuja9001]

&#8220;As you may know, we&#8217;ve never talked about Caius in Lightning Returns before,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But if you played XIII-2, you may have seen that the kind of conflict or rivalry between Lightning and Caius has not been finalized. It ended at the end of XIII-2 in quite a vague way.

It literally was vague. I wanna see his face once he finds out she's alive and Yeul isn't a rose.

 

[Splintered]

I find it funny that for a game with Caius and Lightning in the first concept trailer and in their logo, their rivalry was only barely touched on. I mean, they made it seem like it was epic and it was mostly ignored, and while it could be easily explained that Lightning was the "big good" and the "big but it still felt like they were trying to convey a great rivalry and it came up short. Caius versus Noel was a lot more emotional and interesting than Caius versus Lightning. The dlc tried to highlight their fights but it turned out to be more of a Lightning-Serah interaction and Caius barely interacted with Lightning.

I suppose it could allude to the fact that Caius and Lightning are suppose to be foils for each other, their relationships with Yuel and Serah respectively are similar in how much they love them and how far they are willing to go for them, just their version of "always save the girl" ends up being either to destroy the world or save the world.

But even then I felt like Caius was more of a mixture of Fang and Dysley, where Fang and Caius was kind of pushed to brink of their personality and willing to fuck over the world in order to make sure Yuel/Vanille would be the lesser of two evils, despite what Yuel and Vanille might actually want. I think even the creators knew that, considering all the Bahamut imagery.

I want to know why Caius didn't kill Lightning when she was surrounded by chaos. The only reason I could think of is that he knows there's a chaos Yuel running around and chaos Yuel wants Lightning, but why would Yuel want Lightning anyway. And if he knows that, then he knows that something, somewhere down the line of Yuels, something went really, really bad. It could be the straw the breaks the camels back when he decided to destroy the world. Although I like it better that it wasn't actual manipulation but just a lot of time and a lot of hardship that caused him to break.

//enjoys Caius rambling

 

[Mwynn]

So someone just pointed out something really interesting regarding the white chocobo.

It's got a symbol above its left eye... in the shape of one of Odin's swords.

That pretty much confirms it, I think?

aw odin ;-;