Love Triangle Spoiler Thread

[GeoMill]

You would do that.

Nope, nothing new. But, if she does happen to refer herself as that way after she discovers who the real Cloud is/meets up with Zack/etc., then that'll show that Aerith does love him, as Tifa does as well.

I'll be both disappointed, somewhat angry, and amazed if she does not return Zack's affection. And, yes, if she says so herself after all those events, then her feelings must be real, like you said.

Well, if that happens, I'm sure the rabid Zack fans will be very pleased

 

[Tennyo]

Oh those. I thought that it was the Ultimania's that were in English and Jap.

Once again my growing hope for a Ultimania to understand has been cast away.... dust in the winds...

You're probably thinking of the Reunion Files. That book is both English and Japanese.

 

[Channy]

oic. Is that one any good? Informative and the like?

 

[Ryushikaze]

Quite.
Lots of making of stuff for AC.
Also, Tifa being called a koibito and Aerith thinking of Cloud as her koibito are not the same. One is statement of fact, the other other is the fancy of a character capable of being mistaken.

 

[Channy]

Yes, but who created said character?

 

[Ryushikaze]

The same guy who had Vincent think he was Sephy's dad and Cloud think he got into SOLDIER.

I'm sure you get where I'm going with this, yes?

 

[OneWingedDemon]

The same guy that created the character who liked calling himself a 1st Class Soldier

Beaten!

 

[Channy]

Your facts are cruel and hateful.

 

[Tennyo]

When did Vincent ever think that he was Sephiroth's father? That was all fan speculation right there. Or at least I thought it was.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I forget if it was speculation or if it was ever specifically stated he thought that, but I'd say it's a fair inference from the original game and his lines to Hojo that before Hojo's admission he thought Sephy was his own sin.
The real point is that Noj is fond of writing characters who are essentially mistaken about something they hold as true.

 

[Tennyo]

I always thought that he thought that not stopping Lucrecia from going through with the experiment was his sin, because of what it did to her. Seph was just a tiny baby then and so why would Vincent think that was his sin? He had no way of knowing that Seph would turn out evil.

 

[Ryushikaze]

That's why Sephy now is his sin, he didn't stop Lucrecia. But for his inaction, no Sephiroth. Ludicrous, perhaps, but it seems the sort of thing he'd beat himself up for. I'll take a look again, but the thread I got from the dialog of the Hojo fight was Vinnie finally realizing it was Hojo, not he, who should bear the burden of the sins of Sephiroth's existence.

 

[Tennyo]

Yeah I got that much from the dialog as well. But I thought there was more to it than just Sephiroth. I'll have to redo that scene sometime I guess.

 

[Frostwave]

I didn't know this thread existed until a few days ago. Read the whole thing. Thanks for the lulz everybody.

Also, I couldn't resist a peek at CxA to see what they were saying about Lifestream White.

......

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I didn't know this thread existed until a few days ago. Read the whole thing. Thanks for the lulz everybody.

Also, I couldn't resist a peek at CxA to see what they were saying about Lifestream White.

......

It ougta be funny when I go back to TNC.

 

[Frostwave]

Hopefully this will convince them that reopening is a good idea.

Ahhhh.. are good times ahead?

 

[Ⓐaron]

I didn't know this thread existed until a few days ago. Read the whole thing. Thanks for the lulz everybody.

Also, I couldn't resist a peek at CxA to see what they were saying about Lifestream White.

......

Mind excerpting the lulziest bits for those of us who are too lazy?

 

[A]

I cba to debate there, but I'll be looking forward to the many debates there.

 

[Frostwave]

Mind excerpting the lulziest bits for those of us who are too lazy?

Awrighty. *grins* Lesse...

Clotis always throw that Cloud x Tifa is canon because she was described as "koibito" or Cloud's "lover".

Well, Nomura didn't say that Tifa was "Cloud's lover". He described Tifa's characteristics as a "koibito", and it was officially translated as "sweetheart" - but there was no specific reference to Cloud. This statement has a specific reference to Cloud.

Ehehehe.

CHEESE IT!

*faints*

All I keep reading is "恋人" over and over again!
It says Cloud's name, then it says Cloud's HER sweetheart HER lover <33

&#12463;&#12521;&#12454;&#12489;&#12399;&#22899;&#12398;&#21451;&#20154;&#12391;&#12354;&#12426;&#12289;&#24651;&#20154;&#12391;&#12354;&#12426;&#8212; All I keep getting from this is VICTORY!!!!

By the way, I'm looking through the topic to see how reliable this is. (I mean I'm pretty sure it says that too, but W/E) and some people are actually saying Aerith just has two lovers at once.
A few of them are saying that "an existence she must protect" means Zack and that's it's a "Zeris bit". Go figure, man.

What's that in the sky? Ohh, it's Cloti being kicked into outer space by the a$$.
We win. End of discussion. clorithsmiley1.gif

EDIT:
Every Cleris needs to click the Youtube link for our song!
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!

To someone who said that now all they needed was a quote where Cloud says that he thinks Aerith is his koibito, too:

But koibito means lover, sweetheart, and or gf/bf. You can't have any of those with out the other side willing to return those feelings. If this statement doesn't clear it up, I'm not sure what will.

Because this statement / quote shows how both Cloud and Aerith feel towards one an other.

And a person can't call someone their lover, sweetheart, or bf/gf with out both sides feeling that same way. There's absolutely NO WAY around this.

*sighs* I just love them. There were all so happy that Zack wasn't in it.

And this is from Nojima, so Cloti's can't claim that it's non-canon!

Notice that Cloud's name is used?

The drinks are on me, everyone!

And no Zack in Case of Lifestream? I love it!

Also, many many smileys were used.

 

[Ⓐaron]

wow, that's even crazier than I expected

 

[Isabella]

Oh the delicious irony.

Are these the same people who said koibito means Tifa is admired by Johnny, Rude, Barret, etc.?

 

[Tennyo]

I might go to back to TNC if a lot of the people there get an attitude adjustment. But who knows?

 

[A]

Describing her characteristics would make no sense, as if her characteristics were of one of a 'girlfriend's' (now that they're admitting that koibito means lover, it's quite obvious they can't deny this), then tachiba would have no use of being in that sentence, as it means standpoint.

Also, like Mako said long ago, it never mentions Aerith's name. Just 'the woman.' So if they're going to insist that it's implying with the statement that because there was no specific reference to Cloud, I'm gonna say that 'the woman,' is me, searching for troo lub.

Lol at how they make this such a victorious statement by using immature statements such as, "WE WIN, WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS." This is not a game they're playing. They just take this too seriously.

And also, LOL at this:

But koibito means lover, sweetheart, and or gf/bf. You can't have any of those with out the other side willing to return those feelings. If this statement doesn't clear it up, I'm not sure what will.

Because this statement / quote shows how both Cloud and Aerith feel towards one an other.

And a person can't call someone their lover, sweetheart, or bf/gf with out both sides feeling that same way. There's absolutely NO WAY around this.

Um, okay. This comes to show that social skills are needed in order to actually believe in a statement like so.

So ironic.

I wonder if they have an explanation for the fact that Cloud is a symbol of something important.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

lol o rite, NOW koibito means lover. TACHIBA DOES NOT MEAN POSITION AND KOIBITO ONLY MEANS LOVER IN REFERENCE TO AERITH. Ya gotta love it.

 

[A]

WE CLOTIS LOSE.