Don't wanna be rude myself but were you really looking ? Because there's a ton of evidence and video examples of how he's doing everything in his power to not call Tifa a "friend" or a "nakama"
See, I don't know what it's from, and I agree with you. Cloud doesn't see Tifa as a friend, but the fact that he calls Tifa "nakama" means that, to Cloud, calling somebody "nakama" isn't a friendzone. Which is why I can't help but feel it's a little disingenuous to point fingers to the scene at the church and say "friendzoned".
I'm telling you he doesn't call her nakama... that's the point.
Hmm… I’m very suspicious now. LMAO
I swear Cloud does call Tifa his "nakama"? I just checked it's in Dissidia 012 I think.
I know it seems odd, I'm just a negative person by nature. But trust me, in this short time I've been on this forum a lot of my confusion has been cleared up. I thank everyone here for it.
Okay dude I swear I'm not an undercover Clerith, I'm just like this sorry.
Nobody in the whole known universe use the phrase "Now I know where we stand" after exchanging mutual love declaration.
Plus, Cloud truly just doesn’t act the same around her. He is very bashful when it comes to Tifa. Like when she takes his hand during the first GS date.
Yeah I think so too. Whatever it was, it definitely wasn't a confession.
Can I dm you about this? I promise I won't barrage you haha. It relates to my gf having anxiety. I'd appreciate some input
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
Okay so I’m not that well versed in FFVII lore so I’m pretty far from an expert on all this. But I really feel like considering Dissidia and other spin off titles makes things complicated. It seems like the intended way to digest the lore is from FFVII OG and other mainline titles, including books and other media (like movies) published or distributed by SE, and then the Remakes. Plus, spin off titles, more often than not, aren’t supposed to move major plot points or character arcs. So I’d take what’s said in Dissidia, Kingdom Hearts, and other things like that with a grain of salt.
No you're totally right.
Oh yeah I've never played dissidia either.
Really? guess I was worried over nothing then.
To be fair, I don't think Cloud knows she's dead. He actually thinks he saved her.
Kingdom Hearts is an AU. Dissidia almost implies that they get plucked from their respective games, then take part in Dissidia, then are placed back in their games with no memory of what happened. But then they remember if they’re called back (Dissidia NT).
That's a good way to put it, I think.
That monologue is blocked out. As if Cloud is repressing it.
Which is not canon to ff7. It'd be like quoting Maiden
Yes that's what i'm saying. When the team reach them, what they're seeing is Cloud doing his monologue. But Cloud is blocking it and thinks he's crying about her close friend death. Because he refuses to give more credit to Sephiroth whole "you"re a puppet" show
Which people still do.
Yes. One of the many fights of Nojima is retconning the shit out of it. That's why it is the sacred text of Clerith.
Oh I agree. He definitely does those things, but the way he is acting from then on, he's not acting like he knows she's dead. As @GamerSkull said, he seems to be repressing the fact. That's why I don't think he's showing any sadness in those scenes, nor is it fair to compare to how he acts when he thinks Tifa is dead. There's more at play surrounding Aerith's death.