SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

Sacky

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That's just cope. She's hot and really busty... so it's an easy target to minimize her importance by saying she only exists for fanservice.

And I think it's pretty clear she seems to never have been interested in romance except Cloud. Just because she's really attractive doesn't mean she was going around dating people willy nilly. In fact, she was probably way busy, as ToTP confirms. And then when she gets the bar, she probably didn't have much free time. In fact, she even states she has barely enough time to decorate her apartment because she's got the bar to worry about.
the take that attractive people are sex obsessed really needs to die...
 

GamerSkull

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Yeah, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of Squinoa/Clerith crossover is there? You'd think there would be. (I'm not really involved in FF8 fandom lol).
I would actually say Squinoa is pretty much what people want Clerith to be. Very introverted person who keeps people at arms length meets an incredibly outgoing and extroverted girl who gets him to soften up and then they fall in love.

It's everything Clerith fans like... except that the characters are not literally Cloud and Aerith.
 

Sacky

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I would actually say Squinoa is pretty much what people want Clerith to be. Very introverted person who keeps people at arms length meets an incredibly outgoing and extroverted girl who gets him to soften up and then they fall in love.

It's everything Clerith fans like... except that the characters are not literally Cloud and Aerith.
not pink enough im afraid
 

nars305

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I've noticed the strange stance that Westerners are horny sex obsessed people who cant understand While Japan is pure non sex non kssing and undestands everything more than any other country. A lot of takes put westerners vs Japanese its really weird especially when you know the people saying this are in fact not Japanese
It’s weird as hell.

I’m sure if Aerith was given a kiss they would maintain their position that kissing had been reserved for prostitutes in Japan.
 

GamerSkull

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It’s weird as hell.

I’m sure if Aerith was given a kiss they would maintain their position that kissing had been reserved for prostitutes in Japan.
Stuff like that and the interlocked fingers thing are just arguments they are using so they can remain in denial tbh.

There is no proof that handholding with interlocked fingers is more romantic than a kiss. And context-wise, Cloud is not treating Tifa like a prostitute. That's just absurd.

I would bet the truth is more like; "Handholding with fingers interlocked can be romantic and not frowned upon when in public, but a kiss is more romantic but should be best done in private."

From what I know, Japan is a lot more conservative so it's likely the truth is more that they just don't appreciate PDA and would rather that be behind closed doors.

This is my most good faith acceptance of such an argument.
 

Gym Leader Devil

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So what we really want from RE3 is a Cloud/Tifa kiss with interlocked finger handholding.

Both hands, mind you, which is obviously twice as romantic. Then the doubled romance gets multiplied by the coefficient of lip contact. Adjust for the negative modifier of association with bad affection charts, then divide by 30 for the anniversary of FFVII. And that's how we mathematically prove Cloti, right?

Or... we could embrace our sex crazed Westerner status and find a better use for at least one hand of each character.

I think the choice is clear :monster:
 

nars305

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So what we really want from RE3 is a Cloud/Tifa kiss with interlocked finger handholding.

Both hands, mind you, which is obviously twice as romantic. Then the doubled romance gets multiplied by the coefficient of lip contact. Adjust for the negative modifier of association with bad affection charts, then divide by 30 for the anniversary of FFVII. And that's how we mathematically prove Cloti, right?

Or... we could embrace our sex crazed Westerner status and find a better use for at least one hand of each character.

I think the choice is clear :monster:
Imagine this.

We make it to UTH. Tifa says her *famous line and Cloud walks right over and DOUBLE interlock-finger hand holds with Tifa.

Fffffuuuckkkk…
 

Gym Leader Devil

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Agreed, although I'm honestly unsure which race is being insulted more here. The western "sluts" or the Asian "prudes"

It doesn't matter which is worse, the important thing is that it's insulting to everyone.

Guy dies and girl stays loyal after death though, that's gotta count for something

Who wants to tell Stiggie that story continues and gets so much dumber?
 

Ryushikaze

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Yeah like slut shaming Tifa.

It’s weird to me how much I see people say she is designed for horny westerners when I’m like uh, do yall know what hentai is…
Plus, she is clearly, CLEARLY Nomura's type.

Yeah, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of Squinoa/Clerith crossover is there? You'd think there would be. (I'm not really involved in FF8 fandom lol).
Ironically, the opposite is the case. One of the biggest fucking Squinoa shippers I have ever known was also very very into Cloti.
 

Stiggie

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If she’s his type than why is he okaying her getting KISSED like a PROSTITUTE?

He needs to do right by her.
Clearly he's got a thing for prostitutes since yuna and rinoa also got kissed, the filthy harlots

Who wants to tell Stiggie that story continues and gets so much dumber
Exactly, it had exactly what cleriths wanted, bs happens, happy go lucky dead love interrest comes back to life !!!
 

Stiggie

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Thanks for the heads-up
So they actually end up living together for real?
You really wanna know?

Yeah, they end up living together and raising (adopted) kids, hell, it's heavily Implied they sleep together before the final battle in the og, yes people still argue they aren't a thing, I am telling you, save your sanity and run now

Oh, and warning, this entire discussion just gets more absurd the more you learn about it, that wasn't even half of what makes this insane.

Just wait till you hear what the cause is of Clouds weird behavior, how it started, and the twists of how both girls sort of come into play in that entire thing. Once you know that, and then still hear people being unsure of who the real love interrest is, you'll feel like you're in some sort of bad dream where things don't make sense and people are insane and yet you won't wake up.
 
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Sacky

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You really wanna know?

Yeah, they end up living together and raising (adopted) kids, hell, it's heavily Implied they sleep together before the final battle in the og, yes people still argue they aren't a thing, I am telling you, save your sanity and run now

Oh, and warning, this entire discussion just gets more absurd the more you learn about it, that wasn't even half of what makes this insane.

Just wait till you hear what cause is of Clouds weird behavior, how it started, and the twists of how both girls sort of come into play in that entire thing. Once you know that, and then still hear people being unsure of who the real love interrest is, you'll feel like you're in some sort of bad dream where things don't make sense and people are insane and yet you won't wake up.
Welcome to hell a debate that was answered 27 years ago yet still remains from sheer willpower alone
 

Gym Leader Devil

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Exactly, it had exactly what cleriths wanted, bs happens, happy go lucky dead love interrest comes back to life !!!

It uh... It keeps going past that unfortunately :doh: And gets dumb. Tidus blows himself to chunky salsa kicking an old mine he mistook for a blitzball dumb. Unless that got thrown out while I was gone? Please tell me it got thrown out.
 

Maidenofwar

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I uhh ... really didn't like Rinoa way back when I first played ff8 she even made my "the worst" characters list, it was a very short list but yeah xD My favourite was Selphie, I even named Aerith Selphie.

I did think Rinoa was beautiful and Angelo was her saving grace as she grew on me over the years, OP in battle too.
 

GamerSkull

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It uh... It keeps going past that unfortunately :doh: And gets dumb. Tidus blows himself to chunky salsa kicking an old mine he mistook for a blitzball dumb. Unless that got thrown out while I was gone? Please tell me it got thrown out.
Nojima had to be drunk when he wrote that.

That and the audio drama are like... the only misses from him (for me as I like most everything else he's written)

Although, I'm not sure how canon they are as they obviously exist to set up X-3 and we're not even sure if that will still happen now.
 
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