Okay, many of these have already been responded to, but allow me to add my two cents if you don't mind.
So that's the players feelings, not Cloud's. And even then he notes "Might feel stuck with Tifa because of story-related reasons" and "it's not that there are branching paths.
I forget if it's this same interview or a different one where he says that care was taken to make each date and Cloud's reaction on each date genuine to his core character- IE: That's how he'd react in that situation.
Nomura loves to put puzzles and secrets into his works for people to discuss about. It's not that there is no correct answer, he just wants to wait awhile and see what people theorize about. You can sort of see this
Reunion files also describes her as someone's lover, a special woman to Cloud, states that they share a future together, and that Cloud and Tifa belong together. I might be forgetting a couple other statements in there. And yeah, she has a maternal bond towards Cloud, but Cloud called Aerith his mom, and she and Zack made jokes about it.
Immediately I'm curious here about what context has been lost because we've gone from "the relationship between these three was ambiguous" to "pushing the limits of what we can depict between two people" in the same sentence. We've dropped someone here. Maybe it was Cloud? I am being facetious, but I do genuinely feel there's a missing part of this quote that provides much needed context.
This is an accurate statement of what Cloud is portrayed like during the first disc, sure, but that's not his eternal state. Things change in the lifestream sequence when his true self is restored.
Except we literally have written examples from both now and before this quote depicting how they do interact? Not gonna lie, this feels like Kitase avoiding answering the question ahead of time, which is not unheard of. More on that below.
Well, yes, because things are not currently going well between Cloud and Tifa due to his crippling guilt and diseased induced depression. That's literally part of the premise, so they can work through it and work through those problems and become an even better family together.
But yes, none of that says "there is no canon romance." I read most of it as "You can figure it out" and "things aren't perfect, but that's how relationships are. Especially that last one from Nojima, who recently, in very plain wording wrote that Cloud explicitly wanted to become someone special to Tifa for a novella released just before Rebirth.
As reasonable a folk method as any.
I approve this decision. No. Scratch that, I apporve it.
That's just cruel. Now I want to see Sonic getting forced to deal with the internet bullshit side of Rockman.
Anything's edible if you insane enough.
Here you are, then
I recommend tracking them down. Good stuff.
Fire might have been warranted in that case. Burn the stupid, after all.
They have to adopt the kittens out to the families around edge.
Yeah, my full death voice takes it toll too.
I have a UPC on every desktop in the house. Even then I had to turn them on their side because the one that likes to sleep on my desk also managed to find the power button on one while climbing up the server rack.
I mean, annoyance factors into the "easiness" score.
No it does not.
Still find it hilarious that they started dating like right after Gundam SEED and when they started recording Crisis Core.
Certainly they seemed to be playing and watching different games and movies than the rest of us.
I was not expecting to see that argument in 2024, no.
And again, this isn't to be mean, canon is just one of those words with a particular meaning that for clear communication purposes we have to be precise about.
All that's missing is the pitter patter of biological offspring at 7th heaven, just in case them adopting a kid together isn't enough.
It is legit strange to me that people see FF7, a game with a singular ending and a singular course of narrative as having less of a canon ending for its hero than the game in the series where you can choose to let the player remain dead or not.
We all know the true LTD song is Time Warp. Not that I'd begrudge Curry singing in general, mind.
It has literally never existed. There was a mention of taking care of orphans, people thought this meant she ran an orphanage.
Some people thought Cloud was running a rival Orphanage. Seven guesses who thought that and the first six don't count.
If someone things either Cloud or Tifa run an orphanage, you can dismiss them as knowing nothing at all about what they're talking about.
Yeah, and the people who spread that idea are literally the people most invested in avoiding accurate translations.
TLS is where 'Cloti' gather because TLS is where people who want accurate translations and an understanding of the narrative hang out. That tends to be people who see C/T as endgame regardless of shipping.
Yeah, 90% of the time they steal translations from TLS and try and spin doctor them. The other 10% are blatantly wrong or made up.
Nthing this. Plus the "someone's lover" the "mother of the family they were forming in edge" "future together" etc. quotes. Actually, it might be time to rebuild the short simple list again. Maybe order it chronologically in universe or something.
Even if he did, it wouldn't be real, and that's according to Materia Jesus herself.
BTW, a short comment on Lifestream White, and Black and actually all of OTWTAS.
There are a few different ways of writing, first, second third person are generally understood, but beyond that there is a level of awareness. A limited narrator knows only what a character knows. An omnisicent narrator knows everything. Even then there are distinctions. For example, you might have a third person limited objective narrator, simply reporting facts. Then there's limited personal/ subjective, which is where the opinions and thoughts of the character influence the narration, a sort of blend of first and third person. This is also a good way to do unreliable narrators. You can also have multiple limited narrators, which can seem like omniscient, but isn't, it's just jumping between different specific limited narrators. OTWTAS used multiple limited and very personal narrators. Case of Tifa, for example, is written from Tifa's perspective, Barret's from Barret's etc.
That brings me onto a side note about OTWTAS White and Black. The narrators are never named. Ever. I bring this up not to say "We do not know who they are" but to say of course we know who the fuck they are and it's in the context clues. But A: that doesn't make their words true, on either side, but it also leads into my point that yes, of course we as the fans can figure out shit that isn't explicitly stated because there's evidence, and evidence leads to conclusions and brother we have copious evidence leading us to the conclusion of a C/T AND Z/A endgame.
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How we stacking up to YouTube comments so far? Is Tim Curry singing Toxic Love yet?[/I]
