Eerie
Fire and Blood
Didn't stop them to give Aerith earrings in Remake?
SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke
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Hellenic
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I suppose she did have some with that dress yeah. Well just something that came to mind really. I'm not really trying to analyze these design decisions for the Rosa dress anyway.
GamerSkull
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Yeah, the dress is not a hill I really need to die on. Although, I will say I think Tifa looks the best in it. Personal preference, I guess.
Eerie
Fire and Blood
It's not really the thing I would die on but if it's not Tifa's dress then I'm side eyeing the devs for not giving her a proper dress in the GS. She'd be the only one to not get an outfit out of the GS (I'm including Barret, Nanaki, and Cloud there! and hell even Cait!), which would be very weird.
Yoru
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The belts suits her better imo. She has a presence that impresses me more than the others. Her very long hair also reinforces this divine presence. But yes. Personal taste.
(special mention for stiletto heels)
SE hears your concerns… Part 3 features 10 new outfits for Tifa
No seriously, I expect to be buried in outfits for part 3.
Yoru
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If we don't change clothes to climb the crater, I'm refunding !!!
If the sales numbers for Stellar Blade teach them anything this is EXACTLY what will happen XD
Yoru
Pro Adventurer
Here comes 20 more years of "Tifa is just a fanservice character"
So I don't really know if I want it or not...
It wont matter after TLS and highwind scene. Tifa will explode in popularity, every single normie will stop assuming its "players choice" and will accept that "oh, so its Tifa", and the combined might of popularity and canon will finally allow me to sleep by drowning out the "no he loves Aerith!" Cleriths who will finally be recognized as just being weirdoes who refuse to accept reality.
Hell, I may even be able to enjoy Aerith x Cloud as a hypothetical once that happens.
Yoru
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I think you know too well how it will be : "Re:trilogy is not canon, FF7 is"
Of course it won't matter for us and the average player. But you'll still hear that little buzz in your ear.
"FF7 is the true vision. REmake is the vision tarnished by the pressures of the antis. Nojima had to do it against his will in order not to die."
Gym Leader Devil
True Master of the Dark-type (suck it Piers)
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Less crass than I expected, but I'll take it
Yeah, just hallucinate those words thanks to war flashbacks.
Accept nothing less.
My mental image of this launch actually did utilize both retro rockets and boosters to orient the drill facing down and launch. I foolishly forgot no one can see my mental images but me
Also considering it more carefully it doesnt make a lotta sense anyway 
Ah yes, but if a Cloti agrees with them it became "even the evil Cloti can see it" instead.
I give it a month plus warp time before da Boyz gotta have a scrap over Link being an avatar of Gork or Mork. My money be on Gork.
Yup.
To be fair his main methods of finishing opponents are bright, loud explosions and beans that tend to cause massive dust and smoke plumes. Stealth is hard.
It's a perfectly viable method of springing forth from nothingness.
Exactly. With both source and common vectors, predictions of when and what the next mutation will be get mighty solid until someone pulls new garbage straight outta their ass.
I miss Moya.
See, even they had some sense. If only they were more willing to use it, pink hell might've been more pink purgatory instead.
It's silly. It'd be like using fanmade SFMs to argue TF2 canon, while ignoring official stuff.
But are they two great tastes that go great together?
I hate how correct this is, but there's no refuting it. The tribe needs an enemy. Someone to fight and persecute. Without that, the tribe breaks up into smaller tribes to eat each other.
That's about what I'd expect, yeah. And it's awful.
I mean, comparing how hard Tifa hits foes like the Red Dragon, it's pretty obvious she must be pulling her punches on humans most of the time.
Oh yeah, and I'll be laughing going "see, this is who they've always been, it's never been about evidence or reason, they were always crazy, and now it's there for everyone to see". Like I said, the crazies will always remain, that doesn't bother me, what bothers me is that for a large part the less informed community actually thinks their position is valid, even if they themselves don't agree.
Reminds me of a video that talked about how Aerith and Cloud were a great romance but the video itself said something like "now I know Cloud and Tifa are canon". But apparently that got them so much flack that they had a pinned comment about how the comments made her accept that Cloud and Tifa aren't canon.
Now I don't care that there will always be idiots screaming in comments, I care that they're loud enough that the normal people take them seriously. THATS where I want their relevancy to drop below.
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GamerSkull
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Yeah, at least some of the gaslighting will be less effective.
Yoru
Pro Adventurer
My opinion: I think they're soulmates. Their lifelong bond and their little trip to the LS, which is literally a representation of the fact that the two can only be complete with each other present in their lives, pretty easily represents the definition of soulmate.
Their bond is far too strong and "magical" for them to be star-crossed lovers. Fate, the planet itself, seems to force their reunion throughout the adventure. Whatever the trials, they'll end up together.
Maidenofwar
They/Them
You see I used to think CA were soulmates, OG with Cloud sensing in his soul her presence in the Forgotten Capital, and his mind being open to Aerith in the Sleeping Forest, but now I don't know if Aerith can use Cetra power to visit everyone's dreams, so now I'm going more doomed romance/angst angle.
Edit: Though thinking about it remembering Cloud's c8 dream in Gold Saucer, etc, maybe he still has some kind of spiritual connection to Aerith, and Zack as well.
Edit: Though thinking about it remembering Cloud's c8 dream in Gold Saucer, etc, maybe he still has some kind of spiritual connection to Aerith, and Zack as well.
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Nancy
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So I show Tifa & Aerith's GS date to two of my colleagues who knows nothing about FFVII, maybe except one but she still doesn't understand the full thing but she gets a grasps on what's happening lol because she went to watch AC/C with me in the theater & this is what they said (their words, not mine):
One of my colleague, said he (Cloud) likes both of them but she's confused because it seems like Cloud is trying to date Tifa but then he hold hands with Aerith
My other colleague, who went to watch AC/C with me, said Cloud seem to show more emotion in Aerith's GS date but I love her expression when Aerith & Cloud pull away from each other with her eyebrows raising & then saying 'awkward'
As for Tifa's date, she said he didn't show that much emotion & that Tifa & Cloud were so awkward with each other after the kiss but after I told her it was their first kiss she understood why they were acting the way they were after the kiss
One of my colleague, said he (Cloud) likes both of them but she's confused because it seems like Cloud is trying to date Tifa but then he hold hands with Aerith
My other colleague, who went to watch AC/C with me, said Cloud seem to show more emotion in Aerith's GS date but I love her expression when Aerith & Cloud pull away from each other with her eyebrows raising & then saying 'awkward'
As for Tifa's date, she said he didn't show that much emotion & that Tifa & Cloud were so awkward with each other after the kiss but after I told her it was their first kiss she understood why they were acting the way they were after the kiss
Eerie
Fire and Blood
For CA I never saw them as soulmates because it all seemed to come from Aerith using her powers on Cloud. It's still the case in Remake/Rebirth, so while I see them having a deep bond, I don't see it as soulmates. Aerith also cannot reach true Cloud, she still dies without knowing him and soulmates imply to me a certain understanding and knowledge of the other Aerith has always lacked.
Cloud and Tifa on the other hand... he lets her in his mind, he hears her crying for help in the Lifestream amongst other cries, and now we have Tifa who has the same set of memories than he does set in the Lifestream... they seem anchored in each other's souls in life, death and beyond. They will always find each other, they have the reunion theme and they are able to reach each other in ways that scream soulmates generally speaking.
Checks more boxes under soulmates than star crossed lovers imo, though there is some overlap if you look at how they’re constantly meeting and then being pulled apart only to meet again.
Their complete lack of interest in any other potential partners also hints at soulmates ( at least in the Retrilogy. OG leaves some room to see fledgling attraction to Aerith before she dies ). I find it very interesting that Tifa matrix dodges the advances of others but not Cloud, and Cloud looks annoyed to pissed at the advances of anyone other than Tifa.
If you lay out the story of Cloud and Tifa, it all just lines up with how FF does romantic subplots before and after FF7.
Sacky
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honestly with the evidence from Remake trilogy so far, seems like they sorta going soulmate angle
i got a theory on something but heres some evidence from it.
abzy1200
Pro Adventurer
That's the thing with the mini-LS scene in Rebirth. We are shown three memories, two of which have the camera behind Cloud, kind of implying that this is from his pov, and therefore his memory. The promise scene is neutral, it's not shown from either of their pov's.
So is the LS showing Tifa some of Cloud's memories? When he's not even in the LS? Feels intentional.
So is the LS showing Tifa some of Cloud's memories? When he's not even in the LS? Feels intentional.
I'm pretty sure the one that Tifa wears and the one Marle gives to Cloud are facing opposite directions, and if you put them together they're like hands forming a whole.
Well, if we're talking about Real Cloud in the OG, then not really. There isn't anything post-LS that suggests Cloud didn't have his heart set on Tifa.
I’m not pulling the trigger on it yet, but there are definitely signs that there’s more to the LS scene’s significance than OG may have included. The camera angles, how fiercely the planet is defending those memories from corruption, the various elusions to Cloud and Tifa wanting to be by each other’s side forever, it all smells very intentional for reasons beyond foreshadowing.
Something about that fall when they were kids just strikes me as odd, and odd on purpose.
Eerie
Fire and Blood
Those should be Tifa's memories because the Weapons are following bits of Tifa's memories to get there. And the memories that the Black Whispers attack at the end are apparently a tiny bit different than what Tifa saw, so I'm thinking those are Cloud's memories.
abzy1200
Pro Adventurer
Well, I did quite like the idea that Cloud and Tifa fought to be with each other on their own merits and effort, and that this effort was indeed their own and not some magical force pushing them together, but there is definitely more than meets the eye to that mini-LS sequence, you're right.
If you don't mind me asking, what exactly do you mean by this? That a connection between them was established at that moment?
It feels a bit weird to show Tifa's memories from Cloud's pov, so there has to be something special about the ones we saw with Cloud in them.