LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

The one he lives with or the dead one?

  • Living

    Votes: 96 88.9%
  • Dead

    Votes: 12 11.1%

  • Total voters
    108
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Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
Well a lot of their Cleriths don't exist either so it balances out.
 

DrakeClawfang

The Wanderer of Time
My mom got me a Sesshiroth wall hanging because she got mixed up and thought I liked him. So she went today and exchanged it for a Cloud and Aerith hanging instead. That she picked them out without knowing who they are is clearly a sign. Obviously even someone who knows nothing about Cloud and Aerith can see that they're in love and belong together. Trufax :monster:
 

The Twilight Mexican

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TresDias
Well a lot of their Cleriths don't exist either so it balances out.

Thread over. We have a winner.

My mom got me a Sesshiroth wall hanging because she got mixed up and thought I liked him. So she went today and exchanged it for a Cloud and Aerith hanging instead. That she picked them out without knowing who they are is clearly a sign. Obviously even someone who knows nothing about Cloud and Aerith can see that they're in love and belong together. Trufax :monster:

In what part of Ontario do you live that you have a shop where you can just go and get FF wall scrolls? Kitchener and many other towns have comic shops, of course, but I don't remember anything like that.
 

DrakeClawfang

The Wanderer of Time
In what part of Ontario do you live that you have a shop where you can just go and get FF wall scrolls? Kitchener and many other towns have comic shops, of course, but I don't remember anything like that.

Hamilton. It's called "Conspiracy", they've got comics, anime, (Final) fantasy, all kinds of stuff. They've even got pendants and keychains with FF/KH themes, I remember seeing a Griever pendant there one time. They've got the Final Fantasy figures too, which is where my mom also picked up Cloud and Fenrir for me. They're the only store I've ever seen to sell this level of FF/KH merchandise, it's awesome. It's been a while since I went there myself, but I remember seeing FF/KH plushies even.


Yup, that's the one.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
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TresDias
Are you fucking kidding me? I didn't know there was anything like that in Hamilton. I've been through there so many times.

I actually figured that Waterloo/Kitchener would have stuff like that because of the university, but nope. Still, the comic shop there is pretty kickass nonetheless.

Actually, Waterloo/Kitchener is kickass period, but that's a different subject.
 

DrakeClawfang

The Wanderer of Time
Are you fucking kidding me? I didn't know there was anything like that in Hamilton. I've been through there so many times.

I actually figured that Waterloo/Kitchener would have stuff like that because of the university, but nope. Still, the comic shop there is pretty kickass nonetheless.

Actually, Waterloo/Kitchener is kickass period, but that's a different subject.

It's down by Dundurn, near Westdale High School. It's an awesome store, check it out next time you're in the area.
 

Vendel

Banned
Just for kicks.

From Tifa's ACC Dengeki profile.

Unlike Cloud, who is dragging on the past and unable to move forward, Tifa has the strength to accept reality and try to move forward.

Now likely this means that Tifa doesn't let shit emotionally cripple her. While Cloud blames himself for everything. But if you wanted to be snarky you could say that Cloud longing to be a with a dead woman is not "accepting reality".

Damn you SE! Death is meaningless!!!
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
ANOTHER contradiction! Tifa lives in a fantasy world and the Cloud she loves doesn't even exist!

Square :kermit:
 

Shadowfox

You look like you need a monkey
Just for kicks.

From Tifa's ACC Dengeki profile.
Unlike Cloud, who is dragging on the past and unable to move forward, Tifa has the strength to accept reality and try to move forward.

Geez, don't you get it at all, Vendel? All this quote means is that Tifa is at last realising that Cloud doesn't love her. She tries to get Cloud to tell her the truth of his feelings by demanding that Cloud choose between herself and "a memory"/Aerith. And Cloud has made his decision. Tifa sees that Cloud is willing to die to be with Aerith and now that he's making frequent romantic meetings with Aerith in the flower fields, she finally is able to accept the reality that her love is fated to be forever unrequited. Poor, tragic Tifa.
 

Vendel

Banned
Poor, tragic Tifa.


Inorite? Because Aerith is not the tragic one at all. Even though her Boyfriend dies trying to reach her. Then she projects her feelings for him unto a complete stranger. Then she dies halfway through the game. BUT DEATH IS MEANINGLESS. Thus clingy, delusional Tifa is the tragic one.
 
Hamilton. It's called "Conspiracy", they've got comics, anime, (Final) fantasy, all kinds of stuff. They've even got pendants and keychains with FF/KH themes, I remember seeing a Griever pendant there one time. They've got the Final Fantasy figures too, which is where my mom also picked up Cloud and Fenrir for me. They're the only store I've ever seen to sell this level of FF/KH merchandise, it's awesome. It's been a while since I went there myself, but I remember seeing FF/KH plushies even.
Conspiracy Comics sucks. Over-priced because they have no competition.
 
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DrakeClawfang

The Wanderer of Time
Conspiracy Comics sucks. Over-priced because they have no competition.

They've got a niche market then, oh well. Classic business, no competition, charge whatever you like. Considering they're the only store I've seen to sell their sort of stuff in bulk, I consider it a rarity to see such items for sale and thus don't mind paying a bit more. Unlike video games, it's not like shopping around will turn up a place selling it cheaper.

EDIT - I had set Cloud up holding the fusion swords on the bike. My mom looks at him and says "Between the motorcycle and the sword, I think he's compensating for something". "Mom, you just struck the oldest joke in the fandom".
 
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Raquelborn

"I slice your ass in 4."
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Raq, Raquel.
More seriously, I feel both of the girls are tragic.

Aerith had all those things happen to her as has already been said, on top of both her parents dying at a very young age but Tifa also loses her mother with the exception that she's old enough to remember it, she then sees her father bleed to death, all her neighbours burnt alive or wounded, her home destroyed and she has come close to dying a horrible death herself at least twice. At 16 Tifa had nothing while Aerith at least had a guardian and then 4 years later Cloud appeared, dragging it all back up, while at the same time fearing she was losing a love triangle.

Both have had it bad.
 

Celes Chere

Banned
AKA
Noctis
I agree with you. I don't think Tifa has ever been described as a tragic character by the creators though, whereas Aerith has. Which is why I never got the whole: "Tifa is a tragic character, so it makes sense for her to be rejected by Cloud" argument. Even if she were described as that, it still doesn't make sense.
 

Vendel

Banned
Both have had it bad.

Yes both had it rough during their lives. But here is the difference. One dies and the other one ends up with the man she loves. And starts a family to boot.

The tragic one is the one who died senselessly.

It takes pinker logic to see Tifa as the tragic figure of FFVII. Hopelessly pining after a man who will never lover her. All the while not even death can stop the epic C/A love story and they are eventually reunited.
 

Dashell

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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
Reading through these threads... we really go around in circles don't we?

I think we should call this The Love Circle Debate :monster:
 

Homura Akemi

Just a lurker now ;3
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Black★Rock Shooter, Hatsune Miku, Rin, Rin Okumura, Zack Fair.
Wow we are talking about the love triangle...circle...most the time we talk about random stuff
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
Random shit has more structure, Hito.

And there is a difference between a character in tragic circumstances, and a tragic character. There are a few in the compilation, but they are largely outside the party. Only Aerith fits the role of Tragic Heroine, though it's more circumstantial than intentional.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
I'm sorry but why is it so hard to accept that Cloud was happy with his new life in CoT? IT doesn't have to be he was happy BECUZ HE WAS WIHT TIFA HIS TROO LURVE! but he had a good life and he was happy. Why does he have to be pretending or why is it a contradiction?... come on...
 
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