I'm just curious: Why is Cloud being obsessed with finding Aerith romantic, but Aerith being preoccupied with Zack pathetic?
Also, why are we not discussing this more?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=147txYO_Ymk
Thank you to Jem for the link.
Oh, awesome. Not that I thought she was dead for a second.
Also, Monty, I love Tifa fights, but take a break. Show us some Rikku! You had the contest and everything!
How is Aerith being in denial a retcon when a large number of us took it that way in the original game? Either a) we were right through pure, lucky coincidence; or b) there was evidence all along that some picked up on, some did not.
To me, her preoccupation with Zack wasn't just a whopping hint for us about Cloud's secret. It was also a big element of Aerith's tragic history. When you think she's finally ready to let go of her hurt and begin again with Cloud (on the date), she goes and gets herself killed.
Yeah.
We're not saying Aerith is literally obsessed with Zack, but that she is not emotionally over a man she was very serious about and who vanished suddenly. She is trying to be over him, she doesn't want to be stuck on him, but she keeps falling into the same emotional rut, in that she is attracted to Cloud because of Zack, only only realizes this and grows fond of Cloud for Cloud just before her death.
And seriously, how is Aerith -> Zack pathetic but Cloud -> Aerith not? Especially when Zack wasn't dead for most of those five years, but Aerith has been well dead for over two?
This is something I believe is up to interpretation though. We don't know what Aerith went through as a kid but as LV said, experimentations and stuff were probably the least of her worries.
Uh, they were probably the whole of them.
They've both had shit pasts and they've both learned to cope. I think it's ridiculous trying to prove one is more strong than the other. They're both very different in how they react to stuff and are both very strong. That's basically it to me.
This is true, and they are strong in their way, but I do think the independence angle needs to be addressed.
Aerith lives with her mother, with her own room, in the best corner of the slums. She has a part time job, but she's hardly on her own.
Tifa lives with AVALANCHE, a terrorist group, and is largely funding their activities with her actions, taking care of the other members, and helping take care of her best friend's kid.
I think, by definition, she's more independent, because she has to care for so many people. Even her 'revolving' around Cloud isn't a dependency, because she doesn't need him, but because she cares. She doesn't need him, but she might think he needs her.
C. It could have gone either way and they decided to go that way?
Which technically validates the 'it was always that way' if it was up in the air before. We didn't know. Now we do. It wasn't a retconning of previous information.
Honestly I never really paid much attention to Aerith when she spoke of Zack. I didn't take it as a big deal when she brought him up because I've brought up my ex's in the past. I also didn't have her in my party when I went to Gongaga the first couple times I played. Maybe my opinion would be different then but to me it just never screamed denial.
It doesn't 'scream' denial at all. But it all builds up. And Gongaga and especially Zack's demise just seal the deal.
Man she never met dies in Wutai 'Mommy, I was talking with a man who wanted to say he's sorry he's not coming back'
Man she loves dies miles away from her house, she learns his parents haven't seen him in five years either 'I guess he really found someone else', that's denial. There's no way Aerith could MISS Zack's death, especially with her visible reaction to it.