LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

[Fairheartstrife]

I was paired up with another gap year student to man a stall at a local university's open day. He was trying to convince me to play Devil May Cry so I asked him about FFVII and the LTD came up...

He basically said he thought Aerith was Cloud's soul mate, but Tifa's the ideal woman he ended up with for life. I didn't shove quotes in his face though, he probably would have thought I was a freak.

Soul mate...as in the person your hearts calls out for... huh...

 

[Max Caulfield]

I haven't had the change to argue Cloud/Tifa vs. Cloud/Aerith IRL because I don't know a lot of people that are into Final Fantasy. *shrugs*

 

[Max Caulfield]

Once, I had a friend IRL who liked Clerith, but I found out his true dark secret: he thought Clephiroth was canon. So I argued Clack as the real, true canon, it got heated and he punched me.

Clack/Clephiroth LTD is srs fucking bizniz.

He punched you.

Srsly?

Do you think that people don't know FFVII is a game?

 

[Raquelborn]

Soul mate...as in the person your hearts calls out for... huh...

To be fair he had only played the first disc.

 

[Celes Chere]

my friends don't care about canon

well, most of them don't care about... shipping in general. or FFVII.

This, lol. My "IRL" friends can discuss what pairing they like, and we'll joke about it if we disagree. It never turns into a serious debate. Though, my friend who loves to debate about ANYTHING did once argue with me over one shipping, and that was Trigun. xD We've debated sort of about Aerith before, because she hates Aerith with a passion. I mostly just let her rant because it's funny. I've never seen ACTUAL irl drama happen over a shipping, unless it's Twilight where the fans are absolutely nuts.

I really don't care what shipping you like, as long as you're not a total fucking douche! I don't get why people need to send hate mail over a pairing. Unbelievable. xD

Also Nin if you really got punched, I hope you kicked their ass. Otherwise I'll take the name and number... >=D

 

[Son Goku]

Nojima has stated before that he has rather solid ideas on where the story goes and what it is he's telling. Nomura wants $$$$ and hoes.

Fandom wank=PROFIT bitches.

Damn Nomura! I`m thankful for the characters he created though.
I feel like when I would meet him, I would punch him and demand an autograph afterwards.



I eliminated all Clerith thoughts I saw IRL. I can be very persuasive!

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

eh, it was a pretty pathetic punch anyways. More like a girly slap and him telling me that Sephiroth would kick my ass.

 

[Super Mario]

Still, I disapprove of men hitting women. : /




Also lol Seph sucks donkey balls. Kefka > but this is LTD. so it's actually Tifa > Sephiroth.

 

[Raquelborn]

Still, I disapprove of men hitting women. : /

Special concern for women is what leads to contempt for them.

Not like I don't enjoy the added immunity I have as a female when I shove someone over in a club for standing on my foot.

 

[RawrieStrife]

I never met anyone who would hit a person who disagree with them in a debate.
From my experience, they usually call me names.

They once called me Blueberry

And in my country, men hitting women are gay.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Off topic, but of a woman hits a man, you smack the bitch back. For real. I HATE, hate, hate the double standard.

If a man hits a woman, you knee his balls into his mouth and force him to chew. (but that's only in the case of unprovoked abuse. )

 

[null]

Off topic, but of a woman hits a man, you smack the bitch back. For real. I HATE, hate, hate the double standard.

If a man hits a woman, you knee his balls into his mouth and force him to chew. (but that's only in the case of unprovoked abuse. )

Thanks for saving me the rant.

 

[Super Mario]

Special concern for women is what leads to contempt for them.

Not like I don't enjoy the added immunity I have as a female when I shove someone over in a club for standing on my foot.

SMACK HIM UP!

 

[Vendel]

You know guys and gals. I think we had this whole Cloti thing wrong. I mean Cloud and Tifa still aren't living together in Dirge of Cerberus (the chronologically furthest along game in the entire FFVII universe), Tifa's not pregnant with Cloud Jr., and FFS, she rides with Barret (read: NOT CLOUD) into the big battle with Deepground near the end. And to my knowledge, they don't even interact at all in that game.

It's all so clear to me now. I dare anyone to beat this trump card!

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Vendel, where do you find these people? **shudder**

 

[Raquelborn]

... they don't even interact at all in that game.

It's all so clear to me now. I dare anyone to beat this trump card!

Like when Tifa gives Cloud the OK to launch from the back of the truck, or when they talk briefly to say each of their area's are clear in the middle of the battle, or even when Cloud calls on Tifa while in a call with Vncent to send him Deepground's map?

Okay. Cool.

 

[RawrieStrife]

Ummm... DoC is about Vincent...

And nobody here said that Tifa is pregnant, i think.....

And pay more attention to phone calls. Talking to each other is interaction.

*meow*

 

[Vendel]

Vendel, where do you find these people? **shudder**

I have my sources.

*Makes a point of not looking at Q*

 

[Max Caulfield]

Cloud and Tifa still aren't living together in Dirge of Cerberus (the chronologically furthest along game in the entire FFVII universe), Tifa's not pregnant with Cloud Jr., and FFS, she rides with Barret (read: NOT CLOUD) into the big battle with Deepground near the end. And to my knowledge, they don't even interact at all in that game.

The "Tifa isn't pregnant" and "she doesn't ride into the big battle with Cloud" as evidence that her and Cloud aren't together are just too stupid.

So what if Tifa isn't pregnant? I mean, really? You're using that as evidence that they aren't together?! Well, Aerith wasn't pregnant when she died, so that must mean that Cloud and her aren't together!

Also, Tifa not going into battle with Cloud means nothing. Their positions in the battle were probably chosen by some general or leader in WRO, and they probably had no influence or say on where they would be. Saying that, because Tifa didn't ride with Cloud into battle, makes as much sense as saying that her and Barret are together because she was with him.

But... when is it stated in DoC that Cloud and Tifa aren't living together? I haven't played the game in forever (and I haven't played it very much, at that) so I can't remember if that was stated or not. Or, did Nomura say that they weren't in an interview or something?

Also, they totally interact in the game. Not a whole lot because DoC is focused on Vincent, but they do interact.

 

[Dashell]

I have my sources.

*Makes a point of not looking at Q*

I said something... also I ended on a Clerith note so I don't get in trouble and it's a point I want to bring up here:

Something I did notice when I was replaying part of the game last night too, and anyone is free to use it, is that I've seen a lot of Clotis say "Cloud didn't agree to be her bodyguard, he was silent." As proof that he didn't want to be her bodyguard. Yet when Reno comes into the church, Cloud pretty much throws himself in front of Aerith to protect her. So for someone who didn't want to be her bodyguard, he sure jumped at the chance. "Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you're feeling" indeed

 

[Fairheartstrife]

I said something... also I ended on a Clerith note so I don't get in trouble and it's a point I want to bring up here:

Something I did notice when I was replaying part of the game last night too, and anyone is free to use it, is that I've seen a lot of Clotis say "Cloud didn't agree to be her bodyguard, he was silent." As proof that he didn't want to be her bodyguard. Yet when Reno comes into the church, Cloud pretty much throws himself in front of Aerith to protect her. So for someone who didn't want to be her bodyguard, he sure jumped at the chance. "Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you're feeling" indeed

What would you have him do, Que? Just stand there and let the Turks get her? Yeah, real hero material there. Saving someone's ass in immediate danger and agreeing to be a bodyguard are still two very different things--and indicate two very different mind-sets.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I said something... also I ended on a Clerith note so I don't get in trouble and it's a point I want to bring up here:

Something I did notice when I was replaying part of the game last night too, and anyone is free to use it, is that I've seen a lot of Clotis say "Cloud didn't agree to be her bodyguard, he was silent." As proof that he didn't want to be her bodyguard. Yet when Reno comes into the church, Cloud pretty much throws himself in front of Aerith to protect her. So for someone who didn't want to be her bodyguard, he sure jumped at the chance. "Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you're feeling" indeed

Mostly, I see that being used as a counter to 'Well Tifa strong armed him into the promise anyways, so it clearly means nothing to him!' when his actions and so on say otherwise. Rly, the only ones who think Cloud just didn't care about Aerith on the Cloti side either have a strong hatred of Aerith themselves and are projecting, or are trolling.

 

[Max Caulfield]

What would you have him do, Que? Just stand there and let the Turks get her? Yeah, real hero material there. Saving someone's ass in immediate danger and agreeing to be a bodyguard are still two very different things--and indicate two very different mind-sets.

Not to mention he snuck out of her house after she brought him home.

If he was her bodyguard he'd have to, you know, stay by her to protect her.

 

[Dashell]

What would you have him do, Que? Just stand there and let the Turks get her? Yeah, real hero material there. Saving someone's ass in immediate danger and agreeing to be a bodyguard are still two very different things--and indicate two very different mind-sets.

You'd think if he didn't want to do it he wouldn't jump like that is all. Maybe he'd hesitate or do that thing where he puts his hand behind his head. That's all.

 

[Dashell]

Not to mention he snuck out of her house after she brought him home.

If he was her bodyguard he'd have to, you know, stay by her to protect her.

Because a bodyguard would totally bring his ... protectee (idk what that's called) into danger, so he should have brought her out with him right into the line of danger.