LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

The one he lives with or the dead one?

  • Living

    Votes: 96 88.9%
  • Dead

    Votes: 12 11.1%

  • Total voters
    108
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Fairheartstrife

[no fucks given]
AKA
FHS, that cloti bitch
Yo man, I don't see a discussion. You can't have a debate and a circlejerk at the same time

or can you

Course you can.

Commentary on grips, tightness, speed, congratulations, obligatory back-pats, ball grabs all go hand in hand when Cloti wins.

Duh.
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
I'm curious why there are Clotis. Maybe because of her boobs or something.
I'm curious as to why there are Clacks. Maybe because of his penis or something.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
I said something... also I ended on a Clerith note so I don't get in trouble and it's a point I want to bring up here:

Something I did notice when I was replaying part of the game last night too, and anyone is free to use it, is that I've seen a lot of Clotis say "Cloud didn't agree to be her bodyguard, he was silent." As proof that he didn't want to be her bodyguard. Yet when Reno comes into the church, Cloud pretty much throws himself in front of Aerith to protect her. So for someone who didn't want to be her bodyguard, he sure jumped at the chance. "Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you're feeling" indeed :monster:

Sneaking out of her house at midnight.
Words aren't the only way to show how you feel.
And he never did agree to be her bodyguard. But Cloud isn't some all consuming dickcheese at that point, no matter what people want to think so they can think Aerith 'CHANGED' him. Escorting a girl home is hardly worth charging for in any case.

The LTDs have taught me that there are two ways to interpret that scene:
(1) Cloud was surprised and speechless when Aerith asked him to be her bodyguard and offered herself up to him for a date. He stepped in to stop the Turks from kidnapping her and so indirectly agreed to be her bodyguard. He decided to walk her home and then make his own way back to Tifa and AVALANCHE after that.

(2) Cloud was surprised and happy when Aerith asked him to be her bodyguard and offered herself up to him for a date. He immediately agreed, unlike the situation with Tifa where he had to be prompted/manipulated by guilt to agree. Obviously, this scene proves that there were romantic feelings between Cloud and Aerith from the start.

I hate to keep harping on this thing, but why do so many C/A interpretations need to include a comparison to Tifa?
Personally, I think it's all to do with making Aerith 'win' over Tifa.

I'd like to inquire why flower selling and mere days of meeting qualify as romantic while a near life time of acquaintance, determination to protect her and even joining her resistance group doesn't? : (

BECAUSE SHIPPING.

I'm going to be annoying here and correct this.

Cloud hadn't joined AVALANCHE by the beginning of FFVII, and was - as far as I could see - only with them for as long as they paid. There's a scene in the game in which Tifa asks him to join, but he refuses. After they found out that Sephiroth was alive, he seemed more willing to work with them without pay.

She doesn't ask him to join, she asks him to keep helping, and he agrees.
Hell, he only worked with them because Tifa asked.

Yo man, I don't see a discussion. You can't have a debate and a circlejerk at the same time

or can you

I'm certainly willing to give it the old college try with you, Zee.

I'm curious why there are Clotis. Maybe because of her boobs or something.

The Badonkadonk doesn't hurt either.
Seriously, though, this line of thought has always confused the fuck out of me.
If we like Tifa 'cuz of boobs', IE, Sexually wanted her, would it not make more sense to argue her as unattached? I mean, no one really wants to self insert as Cloud, so why would anyone wanting Tifa want her with Cloud?
It make-a no sense.

Legs are nice.

But tits, man. I love tits.

I insist you verify this claim to an exacting yet arbitrary standard of evidence to be determined by me at a later date but which contains at least photos of yourself in the act of loving such, and preferably videos of the same.
 

Max Caulfield

shaka brah
AKA
Chi, Trollzaya, Dean Winchester, Black Widow
She doesn't ask him to join, she asks him to keep helping, and he agrees.

Okay, I'm quoting Tifa in Seventh Heaven:

Tifa: Listen, Cloud. I'm asking you. Join us.

Join, not keep helping. I suppose it's open to be interpreted whether or not she really means, "join us" or "please keep helping us", but, if he really had joined already, why would she need to be asking for him to keep helping?

Hell, he only worked with them because Tifa asked.

Is this stated somewhere? (And, really, I can't remember if it was or not, so I'm seriously asking.)
 

RawrieStrife

Rawr - I <3 U !!!
Okay, I'm quoting Tifa in Seventh Heaven:

Tifa: Listen, Cloud. I'm asking you. Join us.

Join, not keep helping. I suppose it's open to be interpreted whether or not she really means, "join us" or "please keep helping us", but, if he really had joined already, why would she need to be asking for him to keep helping?

Ummmm.. cuz at the start, Cloud would only do it for money???? Maybe Tifa is afraid Cloud will back down. Just my guess...
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
Okay, I'm quoting Tifa in Seventh Heaven:

Tifa: Listen, Cloud. I'm asking you. Join us.

Join, not keep helping. I suppose it's open to be interpreted whether or not she really means, "join us" or "please keep helping us", but, if he really had joined already, why would she need to be asking for him to keep helping?

That's far too microquoting to get the context.
But if you want to take that as 'Join us officially as a member of AVALANCHE' by the end of the discussion, he's agreed to keep helping them. And again, only because she asked.

Is this stated somewhere? (And, really, I can't remember if it was or not, so I'm seriously asking.)

The U10. He goes on missions for AVALANCHE at her request, she requests so she can keep him close to figure out what's wrong with him.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
AKA
Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
The U10. He goes on missions for AVALANCHE at her request, she requests so she can keep him close to figure out what's wrong with him.
The clingy bitch.
 

Max Caulfield

shaka brah
AKA
Chi, Trollzaya, Dean Winchester, Black Widow
That's far too microquoting to get the context.
But if you want to take that as 'Join us officially as a member of AVALANCHE' by the end of the discussion, he's agreed to keep helping them. And again, only because she asked.

Well, it's not an outright statement that he "joins", but I agree that he's staying.

The U10. He goes on missions for AVALANCHE at her request, she requests so she can keep him close to figure out what's wrong with him.

Thank you, I will have to go look that up. :)
 

Dashell

SMILE!
AKA
Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
The humor in such statements has long since worn out its welcome. CEASE THEM.

Fine. :sadpanda:

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oh dear
The one quote where Nojima(co-creater/writer of the story)said Cloud and Tifa have too many problems and they will never be solved. And if Aerith was alive, that Cloud and her would have a better romantic relationship.

To me, that says A LOT! Nojima is declaring that Cloud and Tifa aren't good together and have too many problems but that Aerith would have been better for him.

It's like... I wanna say something but... I know it wouldn't matter.
 
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