LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

The one he lives with or the dead one?

  • Living

    Votes: 96 88.9%
  • Dead

    Votes: 12 11.1%

  • Total voters
    108
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Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
Well, you enjoy your boring sex then.

Seriously. I put up with that shit in the past (it's called being an abuser; I don't care if you are a female :monster:), but if it happened again, the bitch would be knocked on her ass.

He agreed to take her home, not be her guard dog for the rest of his life. =P

To some people, it's implied.

He nodded to her suggestion of a date as payment after telling her that being her bodyguard would cost her. He directly agreed to be her escort.

He bobs his head slightly, then shakes it waving his hand in front of his nose. I've never been quite sure what he means by that overall gesture. Maybe 'I'll take you home but forget payment' or 'Yeah sure whatever' or 'Egads woman, what did you EAT?'

How did Cloud get manipulated into something he wanted to do anyway? Joining SOLDIER was largely about impressing Tifa.

Because Tifa is evil, clingy, and manipulative. And she forced Cloud into wanting to impress her.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to put my brain back in. It's hard to live without it for long.

He was no more manipulated into the promise than if a dude (i.e. me) asked a chick out and she said, "Well, okay, but will it be alright if we have sex on the first date?"

That needs to happen to be more often. Just saying.
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
I suppose you're not making the most of what god gave you.
I tried and it ended in disappointment and me feeling dirty :sadpanda:

But I didn't need to beg for it.

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Raquelborn

"I slice your ass in 4."
AKA
Raq, Raquel.
@ Did Cloud nod?


@3:34 He says "OK but it'll cost you..." to Aerith's bodyguard proposition and then nods his head before turning to the Turks when she suggests a payment of a date.

So in Midgar he's all ready to walk out of her life forever. Out of desperation to salvage her childhood dream, Tifa brings up the promise, hoping to guilt him into staying because only a louse would walk out of his childhood friend whom he'd once promised to protect. Her scheme works. And Cloud has been manipulated into staying on.

It's pretty much true, it's just a very negative way of putting it, really. Though it also misses out that she's trying to keep him close by so that she can watch over his mental state... which isn't at all selfish.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
@ Did Cloud nod?


@3:34 He says "OK but it'll cost you..." to Aerith's bodyguard proposition and then nods his head before turning to the Turks when she suggests a payment of a date.

Then he makes that weird head shake/ handwave motion to her after turning back to her. That's always confused the hell out of me.

Shadowfox said:
In the first place, the ones who say that he was manipulated tend to deny that Cloud had ever wanted to impress Tifa, or just assert that it was only due to a silly childhood crush that he had long outgrown by the time we see the opening cinematic on FFVII Disk 1.

Yup. Totally outgrown in the five years he didn't have.

From there, the promise is seen as something that he did not want to make, but was forced onto him instead by the pushy little town darling who had dreams of being rescued by a hero.

And that's so fucktardedly wrong it doesn't even deserve recognition.

So in Midgar he's all ready to walk out of her life forever. Out of desperation to salvage her childhood dream, Tifa brings up the promise, hoping to guilt him into staying because only a louse would walk out of his childhood friend whom he'd once promised to protect. Her scheme works. And Cloud has been manipulated into staying on.

Even were she 'manipulating him', it ain't to 'salvage the childhood dream.' It's to keep him around to make sure he's okay.
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
Ryu said:
Then he makes that weird head shake/ handwave motion to her after turning back to her. That's always confused the hell out of me.

I always thought he was scratching his forehead [actually, he is, if you go on YT and click to see it in bigger size, it's how it is] oO" When Cloud says "Ok, but it'll cost you...", isn't it more like what he does every time he helps with Avalanche at that part of the game? oO He expects money, but then she says that, and he backs down, thinking "err that was not what I planned". It's how I see it, really o____o"
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
@Tres: could be, that's a quite common gesture actually *has the same habit* In any case, that's a gesture that does demonstrate that he's not very keen on this lol. He doesn't nod or anything, he moves back further away from her and then scratches his nose/forehead, whatever. The idea behind it is the same, it's that he's not giving into Aerith's schemes, contrarily to what some could say _o/
 

Fairheartstrife

[no fucks given]
AKA
FHS, that cloti bitch
Hot Chick in Church (epitome of every schoolgirl/nun fantasy): Wanna be my bodyguard?
Clusterfuck Dude with Player personality strapped on: Yeeeeah, baby. But it's gonna cost you.
HC: How about I go out with you once.
CFD: **nods, turns and walks awa** Wait... **Turns back** No, no, not like that. I like cock.
HC: **lifts skirt** Problem solved.
CFD: SCORE!


I need more caffeine... **sigh**
 
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The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
He nods, walks over to look at Reno, then does the gesture. I'd take that order of events to mean he is going along with Aerith's suggestion.

At any rate, he certainly doesn't suggest he wants a different form of payment.
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
@Tres: lolz, even my computer hates Aerith XD The time where I actually paid attention to see the nod, it froze at that moment and skipped that second XD Alright, I'll conceade that. I still agree that the scratching nose is odd though - anf if he's going along with her, it's even more odd that he abandons her right after. :P
 

crack

Donator
Also; why does it matter that Cloud was willing to go on the date with Aerith? I mean, it's just a date. Not a vow for the two to spend eternity together. There's nothing wrong with Cloud being interested in other woman. In the end, he still ends up with Tifa, and not because he's ~moving on~, but because he's genuinely interested in her and cares about her romantically.
 
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