LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

[Vendel]

I think it would have been funny to show Barret in the date scene on that U20 page. But the fact it is Aerith just twists the knife doesn't it?

 

[Dashell]

Its more like the constant closing of threads for no good reason, except the powers that be don't like the fact they're losing an argument and thus basically hope that by closing the thread, they'll all go away.

That's what I was talking about.

There was arguing? Seemed pretty open and shut to me.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I guess when you have the entire forum rules built around the purpose of not pissing off or proving one side of the camp wrong in any meaningful way, yeah, it is pretty damn open and shut.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Although? i'm still wondering if that "Cali" is the one I know in the Bleach fandom [since that one ALSO loves Clerith and thinks it's canon]. Which, if true, will definitely make me laugh. XD

Fo sho true, her old sig set on TNC was a Grimmjow number. Not that I've really seen her in Bleach fandom because I abandoned it for... geez, FFVII again? Or maybe just roleplaying. IDK

 

[Strangelove]

I feel like I should tell people off for letting this topic go into strange directions. But I cba and I do like pretty pictures. Of Fang and Vanille. Except they make me jealous of the skill and I don't like that.

Also, people said stuff and I think I agreed with it, but there's like 20 new pages here and I'm not looking all the way back to find them again. EXCEPT ZEE FOR POSTING THAT PICTURE WITH THE FFXIII SHEEP. Those cute little bastards.

Also, that TNC link was painful to read. Can anyone say the Highwind scene was them confirming their friendship, on a page about romance, and actually mean that?

I've heard kangaroos are tasty if you cook em right.

They are.

Experience talking here.

Or that might have been crocodile. Or both.

 

[Isabella]

Also, that TNC link was painful to read. Can anyone say the Highwind scene was them confirming their friendship, on a page about romance, and actually mean that?

If there was sex, I'm sure it was just meaningless sex. You know, because Tifa's boobs are big. No need for love to be involved.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Yeah me too. Except I left ACF before all the drama and shit went down.

When the fuck was that?


Also: Thanks for beautiful Fang and Vanille pictures, peeps.

hey guys:

...

OH for fucks' sake, sorry didn't see the question mark.

If anyone really wants to make a big deal out of that magazine scan -- which might be as old as 2003, actually; can't remember if it was that year or the next -- that has been cropped so as to hide the fact that it's just a magazine scan and not from an Ultimania or something of comparable significance, point out one of two things to them:

1) It's just a fucking magazine speculating; it came out way before Advent Children even had, and it's old as shit

2) It says "suki?" going from Aerith to Cloud, so she may not really like him. Also, it says "Aerith?" so she might not have even really been in AC/C

 

[looneymoon]

jeeesus people the last time I looked at this thread there was probably only 120ish pages. I also don't really get how these new scans are any different from older ones we've seen. I don't think it's going to stop any crazies from arguing.

but hey! lesbians!

Spoiler

Huge image, here's the link

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/167/f/8/Tifa_x_Aerith_Cosplay_by_uchimakiPro.jpg

 

[Isabella]

Looney have you looked at the full page scan? You don't think putting CxT alongside all the other FF couples shown at their moments of revelation is significant?

 

[Strangelove]

Saying a picture of Aerith being there means something romantic but the Highwind means nothing, instead of at least accepting them both is just.

Why are Cloud and Aerith shown also? Tifa and Cloud could be being shown to confirm they are friends while Aerith and him are Lovers. --You know like CoL:W said they were? --This is what happens when people are left to assume things.

I don't know why I'm looking at it again.

Someone post some more Fang/Vanille to make it all make sense again.

edit; (repeating myself) it should make people accept that the Highwind scene was romantic and not just friendship or god forbid rejection.

But I knew it wouldn't

 

[Eerie]

You look at it because it's like watching an horror show, hito. You're like, ewwww and yet, you can' thelp but laugh and lose your brain altogether

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Huge image, here's the link

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/167/f/8/Tifa_x_Aerith_Cosplay_by_uchimakiPro.jpg

More of this. Now.

Someone post some more Fang/Vanille to make it all make sense again.

That's really the only thing that could right about now.

"The Cloud and Aerith picture being there confirms them as lovers even though the text completely trivializes the date and identifies no specific companion -- meanwhile, Cloud and Tifa fucked each other to show that they just want to be platonic friends."

What the flying fuck??????????????????????????????????????

 

[Splintered]

You know like CoL:W said they were?

Oh man, I must have missed all those dozens of dates where Cloud longingly stared into her eyes. Lovers indeed.

Although I have to ask, wasn't there a translation where it said Cloud was clueless to both of their feelings? Am I mistaken or it really does contradict what it said in this Ultimania.

 

[Zee]

Someone post some more Fang/Vanille to make it all make sense again.

NOW ZOIDBERG IS THE POPULAR ONE!

Spoiler

 

[Strangelove]

I'm going to search the hell out of Pixiv one of these days. I don't usually care for yuri, but I make an exception in this case.

Also I just like pictures

Spoiler

 

[Tennyo]

i maek poast http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Northern_Crater/index.php?showtopic=936&st=0&#last

 

[Splintered]

I never understood the whole debate on who got the date in FFVII, considering that it wasn't especially signficant either way. I mean, it was fun, but not necessarily ground breaking. If they really wanted to immortalize Cloud/Aerith, there were different scenes they could have used that would have been much more powerful. But they didn't. They wanted to point out that the "date" is up to the player.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Oh man, I must have missed all those dozens of dates where Cloud longingly stared into her eyes. Lovers indeed.

Although I have to ask, wasn't there a translation where it said Cloud was clueless to both of their feelings? Am I mistaken or it really does contradict what it said in this Ultimania.

You're not clueless. Cloud's profile in the 10th Anniversary Ultimania for FFVII did say he was oblivious to both chicks digging him, and as for Aerith's "koibito" comment in CotL White -- "koibito" just means that the speaker desires the person they're talking about.

Tells you absolutely dick about the desired person's feelings.

I never understood the whole debate on who got the date in FFVII, considering that it wasn't especially signficant either way. I mean, it was fun, but not necessarily ground breaking. If they really wanted to immortalize Cloud/Aerith, there were different scenes they could have used that would have been much more powerful. But they didn't. They wanted to point out that the "date" is up to the player.

And also irrelevant.

I mean, really, it's like they're -- and by "they" I mean Cali, in all her dupe forms; she's got more of them than Ultimecia apparently -- not even reading the goddamn text.

Probably because she isn't.

 

[Eerie]

The date pretty much sums up what we've been saying for a long time: that in Disc One, it's the player's actions that make up Cloud's feelings. And that it really doesn't matter because no matter what, the scenario will follow the HA HW scene, where Cloud and Tifa confess their matching feelings for each other.

As you said, if they wanted to show Cloud's feelings for Aerith, maybe they would use that scene were he stumble on his words to say "I... we're here!" to cheer up Aerith, or even the scene where he puts her in the lake

Fact is, they chose the fakest one, where it sums up prettily 'oh yeah, this happens for the lulz'. XD

 

[looneymoon]

Looney have you looked at the full page scan? You don't think putting CxT alongside all the other FF couples shown at their moments of revelation is significant?

Oh no it's not that. The context of the quote in the scan is pretty fricken undeniable. But, the quote itself pretty much says the same thing that previous quotes have, and for that reason I don't think it's gonna stop people from being like

On the plus side, it will generate a few more wanky lulz... or maybe just headaches. Sometimes I wonder if this debate is even funny anymore, but then lurking this thread restores my faith

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Oh no it's not that. The context of the quote in the scan is pretty fricken undeniable. But, the quote itself pretty much says the same thing that previous quotes have, and for that reason I don't think it's gonna stop people from being like

Well, what makes this one different is that it's the first to come right out and say that the confirmation of feelings didn't involve words. Even though "confirm that their feelings match" was telling enough before, and so was "feelings of desire" when that cropped up -- between "renai" ("romantic feelings") and "without using words" this really puts it beyond even humoring "debate."

 

[Splintered]

You're not clueless. Cloud's profile in the 10th Anniversary Ultimania for FFVII did say he was oblivious to both chicks digging him

But, wait, this scan just said that they pretty much "matched feelings." Something's got to give. That or Cloud is simply more clueless than I though. I'm completely confused right now.

I guess this ultimania retcons the previous profile? Or was it simply talking about disc one?

 

[Strangelove]

Clueless during the game, comes to realise Tifa's feelings in the Highwind scene?

 

[Isabella]

I guess this ultimania retcons the previous profile? Or was it simply talking about disc one?

Tifa confesses her feelings at the beginning of the HW scene, remember? Cloud says, "hey, while we're on the subject," that he has a lot he wants to say as well, but can't find the words. And then Tifa says, "well just grab my boobies then. They're huge."

 

[Eerie]

Wasn't it about Disc One anyway? I always thought it was, since the "romance" is pretty much on that disc. Except for the Lifestream scene.

Maybe it was because it did show a date scene that I thought so o____o" And only talked about Aerith and Tifa _o/