LTD Who did Aerith love?

[Vendel]

I highly doubt that if we have a compilation piece set after DoC it will have Sephy or Aerith in in. IN FACT. DoC didn't have either one. And you think Aerith at least would show up. She is the lifestream Jesus after all.



Or maybe she was just to busy with Zack.

*Zack pops up*
"What was that Aerith?
"Nothing Zacky poo....now no more interruptions"
*pushes his head back down*

 

[Isabella]

I think they just meant that if they were gonna bring Sephiroth back for AC, then they needed to bring Aerith back too.

 

[Dashell]

I'm not saying they'll use Sephiroth again, in fact they better not, but I am saying that I just have a feeling Sephiroth is going kicking and screaming the whole way so Aerith will probably be there to watch him.

 

[Isabella]

What was the exact quote again? Because I think I took it to mean that the spiritual mechanics that allow Seph's consciousness to continue also allow Aerith to continue. I didn't take it as specifying that she'd continue to linger just to watch over him. But then, it's been a while and I forget the context.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

The exact quote from the Reunion Files was: "Since Sephiroth exists, Aerith must exist. There was no doubt about that one."

As for the context, every quote on that page and the ones around it are from Nojima. The quote is on page 9, and pages 8 through 11 only have quotes from Nojima. Nearly every comment is related to the writing of the script.

For that matter, we've also had several comments from Nomura and Nojima that they knew from the start that Sephiroth would appear, even before they had an explanation for why:

-"I was planning to put Sephiroth in Advent Children since the beginning of the project" (Nomura; pg. 60 of the Reunion Files)
-"We knew that Cloud had to fight Sephiroth in the end" (Nomura; pg. 69 of Reunion Files)
-"During the initial development phase, we didn't really have a very specific reason as to why Sephiroth would come back to see Cloud" (Nojima; pg. 117 of the Reunion Files)
-"We had a difficult time deciding on the reason why Sephiroth would appear" (Nomura; http://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=109&...#ixzz0UoRX0Xok)

So, the context of Nojima's quote then is that, in writing the script, he already knew Sephiroth would be there; and if Sephiroth's going to be there, then Aerith has to be as well.

And another of Nojima's comments (pg. 11 of the Reunion Files) makes it clear that he doesn't think that Sephiroth must always be present in a FFVII story: "These characters have a lot in store for them in the near future, so it's entirely possible that their story will continue to be written. But if someone like Sephiroth isn't included, it could eventually end up as some kind of realistic drama instead (laughs)."

 

[Isabella]

Thanks Tres. I'm inclined to stick by my earlier conclusion, then.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Except it's been stated that if Sephiroth exists than Aerith must... and we know Seph won't be diffusing any time soon.

Bullshit. People take that quote out of context so much, it's annoying.

That was in regards to their wills in the Lifestream before AC, and them leading up to its plot. Sephiroth is not going to perpetually exist, along with Aerith.

Which is shown in Lifestream White and Black. They don't mean definitively in the Compilation forever.

 

[Dashell]

And another of Nojima's comments (pg. 11 of the Reunion Files) makes it clear that he doesn't think that Sephiroth must always be present in a FFVII story: "These characters have a lot in store for them in the near future, so it's entirely possible that their story will continue to be written. But if someone like Sephiroth isn't included, it could eventually end up as some kind of realistic drama instead (laughs)."

Doesn't that make it sound like he does want Seph there?

But anyway, thanks for all the quotes, I wasn't sure where that one was from. It makes more sense now...

 

[OneWingedDemon]

No, it makes it sound like "without someone otherwordly like Seph, FFVII dissolves into the realms of a realistic drama (about family, in the case of AC)."

They want him there.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Or at least someone like him, if not him.

Interesting that it's 'Cloud and Tifa's story' that becomes the 'realistic drama' without an otherworldly force involved.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

*Zack pops up*
"What was that Aerith?
"Nothing Zacky poo....now no more interruptions"
*pushes his head back down*

'round these parts we call that the "Scary Moving Ending"

 

[Tennyo]

Except it's been stated that if Sephiroth exists than Aerith must... and we know Seph won't be diffusing any time soon.

I think what this means is that it wouldn't make sense for Seph to pop up and not Aerith. As in, continuity error. She's a Cetra, she should be able to be there. She has natural powers. If Seph can she can, because that is the way the world is set up.

It's hard to explain, it's one of those things you just have to figure out, I guess. I hope someone is able to follow my line of thought on the matter, though.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

I think what this means is that it wouldn't make sense for Seph to pop up and not Aerith. As in, continuity error. She's a Cetra, she should be able to be there. She has natural powers. If Seph can she can, because that is the way the world is set up.

It's hard to explain, it's one of those things you just have to figure out, I guess. I hope someone is able to follow my line of thought on the matter, though.

No no no! Sephiroth and Aerith must exist together because she's the light to combat his darkness.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

No, it makes it sound like "without someone otherwordly like Seph, FFVII dissolves into the realms of a realistic drama (about family, in the case of AC)."

They want him there.

All of On The Way to a Smile is a realistic drama, really, so I don't think FFVII dissolves -- if this was meant to mean "becomes weaker" -- under those circumstances.

Case of Tifa is, specifically, a domestic drama. And we know from "American Beauty" that those can actually be really damn good.

I wouldn't mind an "Angel"/"CSI" hybrid with the Turks.

 

[MaliciousMisery]

I don't buy that symbol explanation, sorry. I'm gathering though, that this is what you and others are going with instead of the Third Person Limited one?

No I don't read that to be he's a symbol of Zack, if they wanted to say that they'd have said "Cloud was a symbol of Zack." not "Cloud was her friend and beloved - a symbol of all that was important to her." or whatever it says.

You've kinda got a point. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that she's dead and Cloud's alive. She doesn't deserve Zack In that case, we can just kill Cissnei off and then have her end up with Zack! ^.^ Aerith is too much of an indecisive bitch.

 

[ForceStealer]

Indecisive? I dunno, even if she was projecting, she threw herself at Cloud pretty quickly and clearly.

 

[Ryushikaze]

You've kinda got a point. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that she's dead and Cloud's alive. She doesn't deserve Zack In that case, we can just kill Cissnei off and then have her end up with Zack! ^.^ Aerith is too much of an indecisive bitch.

Not that Zack was really ever interested in Cissnei. I think Word of God has it that she was never on the table as a romantic option.

And Aerith's not indecisive, she's emotionally confused. She's getting massive Old Boyfriend vibes from the new guy as well as new guy vibes. Shit's complicated.

 

[Roger]

Indecisive? I dunno, even if she was projecting, she threw herself at Cloud pretty quickly and clearly.

Zack had only been gone for five years, the slut.

 

[ForceStealer]

 

[Roger]

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

You've kinda got a point. Well, it still doesn't change the fact that she's dead and Cloud's alive. She doesn't deserve Zack In that case, we can just kill Cissnei off and then have her end up with Zack! ^.^ Aerith is too much of an indecisive bitch.

so liking some dude after assuming said dude ran off=indecisive bitch?

well shit fuck them widows who get another husband, they need to love only ONE PERSON. those whores.

 

[Madame Mayor]

She doesn't deserve Zack

If somebody doesn't deserve somebody else, it's Cloud not deserving Tifa. But she loves the dumbfuck anyways so what are you going to do...

 

[Scias]

so liking some dude after assuming said dude ran off=indecisive bitch?

well shit fuck them widows who get another husband, they need to love only ONE PERSON. those whores.

And that's after she wrote a shitload of letters to Zack over many years with no response... That bitch!

Anyway, let's see. Aerith liked Cloud only, ONLY because he reminded her of Zack, what make you guys think that after she died and reunited with the real deal she would still like Cloud like that?

 

[Zee]

Aerith liked Cloud only, ONLY because he reminded her of Zack, what make you guys think that after she died and reunited with the real deal she would still like Cloud like that?

>dead people in a relationship
>he's serious

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[Scias]

>dead people in a relationship
>he's serious

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