Mortal Kombat X

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Now that we're getting into the more detailed aspects of the larger game itself, I'm getting more and more excited for MKX.




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• Starts at ~2:00 Kitana Vs. Reptile.
• Concept Art through 16:30 (alternate costumes for Kitana & Reptile confirmed).
- You can see it all here: http://netherrealmstudios.tumblr.com/
• Jade isn't gonne be in MKX (She's Kitana's "Mournful" variation, because Jade's no longer around ~29:00)
- https://twitter.com/noobde/status/565986854772568064
- https://twitter.com/noobde/status/565987410803048448
• Kitana X-Ray @ 31:30
• Reptile variations through 40:30 (tiny hints at his story with Kotal Kahn).
• Q&A until 43:00
• New Stage breakdown until 45:00
• Kitana Vs. Reptile head-to-head (Reptile Fatality at ~50:30) Totally more awesome than I expected.



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So, at the end of the last Kombat Kast, they mentioned that in the next one, things were gonna get "brutal" and it looks like a sly little screenshot from an IGN breakdown video has confirmed that our -Ality that's returning is gonna be a Brutality:

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It looks like there's a strong possibility of both Predator and Spawn making it into Mortal Kombat X. The former as DLC (and I'd assume the same with the later).



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[Ghost X]

I don't like the idea of guest characters [/purist]

 

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I don't have any issues with guest characters per se. Also, I think that if they DO choose those two, there'd at least be some interesting and fun things that they could do with them that match the general environment and tone.




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[Super Mario]

Okay I'm convinced to get this game. I'm a predator fan boy and hearing him in MK X is damn gooooood!!!!

 

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It'll be interesting if they do short little videos like this for more characters.



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• Starts at ~5:50
• ~9:00 Some stuff about Cassie Cage & her variations
• ~17:40 Cassie Cage Brutality
• ~18:20 Brutality trailer & Breakdown ("challenge" based, no damage bonus, and there're >100 of them in the game)
• ~21:30 Ermac Vs. Reptile (Ermac Brutality @ ~22:20)
• ~23:00 Kitana Vs. Scorpion (Kitana Brutality @ ~24:00)
• ~24:30 Kano Vs. D'Vorah (D'Vorah Brutality @ ~25:20) FUCKING FAVOURITE
• ~26:00 Kung Lao Vs. Sub Zero (Kung Lao Brutality @ ~26:55)
- Intro hints that this might be the original Sub Zero
• ~27:50 Raiden Vs. Quan Chi. (Raiden Brutality @ ~28:30)
• ~29:20 Quan Chi Vs. Raiden (Quan Chi Brutality @ ~30:20)
• ~31:50 Q&A
- Kombat Pack - 4 additional Characters (still in dev not on disc characters) & lots of additional skins.
- Factions: Changing Factions - lose anything acquired from a Faction.
- Mirror Match Intro: ~34:50 Scorpion Vs. Scorpion.
• ~35:50 Grudge Match 1: Ermac Vs. Scorpion (Brutality @ ~37:50)
• ~38:40 Grudge Match 2: Ermac Vs. Scorpion (Brutality @ ~40:45)
• ~41:30 Grudge Match 3: Ermac Vs. Scorpion (Brutality @ ~43:25)

Lots more character reveals supposed to be happening VERY soon.



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[Joker]

The absence of Jade disappoints me greatly. I'm reconsidering a purchase now because i don't sportive if removing characters in favor of making them "combat styles" for other characters.

 

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The absence of Jade disappoints me greatly. I'm reconsidering a purchase now because i don't sportive if removing characters in favor of making them "combat styles" for other characters.

Well, Cassie Cage is the child of Johnny Cage & Sonya which is why neither of them are in the game (insofar as we're aware), and as her "Hollywood" & "Spec-Ops" combat styles are built specifically towards her parental characters' combat styles, so I think that's pretty much the same thing. They mentioned that in the story, Jade is dead/killed which is why Kitana utilizes Jade's weaponry in addition to her own. I don't really see this as being any different than that fundamentally, but I'm interested to see if/why you feel differently.



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So, new characters? Very soon? Yeah. Story trailer dropped today.

Jackie Briggs (Jax's kid & Cassie's best friend), Takeda Takahashi (Kenshi's son who apparently fights with arm whips like Scorpion, since he was raised in their clan) & Erron Black (Kotal Kahn's other elite who's a sort of cowboy ninja) all show up in the story trailer after only being comic characters so far, same with a couple others, (Kung Jin - no clue who that is aside from an archer, and also Shinnok getting sealed by Raiden at the start). Holy shit yes.

The quick flashes at 1:00 are Reptile, Ermac, what looks like a Netherrealm possessed Kitana, & D'Vorah.

There's also a living non-possessed Scorpion, someone who looks kinda like Rain at 1:16 & 1:29 (he got either severely injured or killed in the most recent comic), & a Netherrealm possessed Sindel fighting with her possessed daughter.

So… if you aren't reading the comics, you really should go do that. They just got WAY more relevant.



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From the video description:

Taking place 25 years after the events of Mortal Kombat (2011), the new generation of characters will discover that Outworld is not the only threat they face. Fans will get a first look at the newest fighters to join Cassie Cage, including Jacqueline Briggs, daughter of Jax, Takashi Takeda, son of Kenshi, and Kung Jin, descendant of Kung Lao.

I think that this is our character list so far:


Earth Realm/Defense Forces/White Lotus:
• Cassie Cage (daughter of Johnny Cage & Sonya Blade)
• Jacqueline Briggs (daughter of Jax, best friends with Cassie)
• Kung Lao
• Kung Jin (descendant of Kung Lao)
• Raiden


Shirai Ryu/Lin Kuei/Black Dragon:
• Scorpion
• Takeda Takashi (son of Kenshi, raised by Scorpion - also could be the above group)
• Sub-Zero
• Kano


Outworld Kingdom:
• Kotal Kahn
• D'Vorah
• Erron Black [playable?]
• Ferra/Torr
• Ermac
• Reptile


Outworld Rebellion:
• Mileena [playable?]
• Goro
• Rain [playable?]


Brotherhood of Shadow:
• Quan Chi
• Shinnok [playable?]
• Kitana (apparently possessed, also has the spirit of Jade)
• Sindel [playable?] (apparently possessed)



So, given the space shown in the Character Select screen, if Erron Black, Mileena, Rain, Sindel, & Shinnok are all playable (and if Goro still takes up a slot like he does in the Kombat Kasts, despite being a pre-order character), that means that there're only 2 more characters left to be revealed.



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[Joker]

Funny, Kung Lao is supposed to be dead, too.

And I don't care for Cassie, either, for the same reason.

I've never liked Kitana and it irks me that in order to "play" as my favorite character, i have to do just that. If rather pay Shang Tsung and morph than that.

 

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Funny, Kung Lao is supposed to be dead, too.

And I don't care for Cassie, either, for the same reason.

I've never liked Kitana and it irks me that in order to "play" as my favorite character, i have to do just that. If rather pay Shang Tsung and morph than that.

In MK9, the original Sub-Zero gets killed in the first Mortal Kombat tournament - and Raiden promised that if Scorpion let him live, he would petition the elder gods to bring back his clan. Since Sub-Zero & the Shirai Ryu clan are alive, I assume that Sub-Zero's resurrection is tied to somehow fulfilling that bargain. Additionally, Kung Lao gets murdered by Shao Kahn despite winning the tournament. I'm suspecting some sort of elder god intervention that Raiden orchestrates to those things since they happened within the tournaments themselves, and the elder gods would actually do something withing those events, whereas they ignore everything else.

Ya feeling the same way about Kenshi/Takeda & Jax/Jacqueline? I, for one, like the fact that they're moving the story along to new individuals to some degree - even if that means legacy characters taking over some of their places.


Related, here's the list of MK9 characters who, thus far, aren't appearing in MKX:

• Baraka
• Cyber Sub-Zero
• Cyrax
• Johnny Cage
• Jade
• Jax Briggs
• Kabal
• Kenshi
• Kurtis Stryker
• Liu Kang
• Nightwolf
• Noob Saibot
• Sektor
• Shang Tsung
• Sheeva
• Skarlet
• Smoke
• Sonya Blade


If I had to guess/pick two characters just from that list, it'd be one of the Lin Kuei - Smoke or possibly Cyrax, and then Kabal for the Black Dragon, since they're both one of the factions in MKX that, so far, only really have one character that seems to be representing them.



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[Joker]

Yes, I do. Especially if Jackie has metal arms and Takeda (why is this his first name?) is blind. Either make new characters or bring back old ones...don't mix old characters to make new ones (or take the same character and slap a new name on them, a la Kim's kids in Garou: MotW).

 

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Well, Jackie doesn't have metal arms (she's primarily a kickboxer in the comics), and Takeda isn't blind… so…

I think the point behind those characters being older is pretty much the fact that MKX's story is driving the updated character list and 25 years is a pretty long time for most of the normal humans to survive and be as capable fighters as they are:

Kano's a cyborg, Scorpion was human but is back to being possessed, Kung Lao (at least in one of his costumes) is an older man, no one knows about Sub-Zero still - plus he's a Cryomancer. That's the other reason that I think Smoke/Cyrax and Kabal would still work as returning characters, as cybernetics seem to extend people's lifespans to keep them around in a kombattant-capable level.

I don't think that anyone else from the list is human, so they age differently, or not at all. That being said, we still don't know what the deal with the Lin Kuei cyborgs are - especially since they'd been working with Shao Kahn. Not to mention Cyber Sub-Zero, since he was kind of a big player last time (in fact, if it weren't for him & his brother holding the same title, I think he'd be a good cyborg to include). Then there's Baraka, but with the Resistance that's in place, who knows if he has any role since Mileena seems to have taken over as the leader of the Tarkatans (I'd half expect her to take up some of his moves like Kitana did with Jade).




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[Hisako]

Creating bunches of new characters based on old movesets is what made MK: Armaggedon a godawful game. On the extreme end of things, that's an example of what happens when designers get lazy and stretch their resources and character diversity thin.
Though really, Armageddon had bigger issues than lazy character design.

That said, MKX looks solid and they seem to be keeping the roster tight, since they're implementing three movesets per character (which I think is a great way to mix things up without creating any character bloat).

 

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Well apparently the rumors were true" Mileena and... Johnny Cage are officially in the game.

Additionally, there's gonna be a Story-centric Kombat Kast on Friday


If I had to guess about story-related things right now, and who our big bad is gonna be before anything more about the story gets revealed,

Spoiler: this is my current guess:

So, Johnny Cage is referred to as "Raiden's Champion" in the latest MKX comic, and Kotal Kahn seems happy to work with him. At this point, I think that means that he's in the game, because he's gonna end up dead in the story in an important way.

While we know that everyone who Sindel killed ends up in the Netherrealm (and controlled to some degree by Quan Chi like Kitana & Sindel are in the trailer). What we never see in MK9 is what happens to Liu Kang after he's killed by Raiden. My working theory at this point is that the Kamidogu in the comics are introduced, because Quan Chi is attempting to use them to revive Onaga (who was seen in Raiden's visions in MK9), as he's the original ruler of Outworld and using him as a way of taking it over, once Mileena's weakened Kotal Kahn's grasp on keeping order there.

As the Dragon God was someone who had a burning and limitless hatred of Shao Kahn, I'm 99% certain that Quan Chi is going to use Liu Kang as the vessel to revive Onaga into -- especially since Raiden won't have what it takes to face Liu Kang again. He's a champion of Mortal Kombat and an amazing fighter, and it's not only demoralizing but it's a brilliant tactic, because at this point he could essentially pull off the same thing that he did with Scorpion, but to a level of cosmic power and influence. That's the other reason that I think that Johnny Cage as Raiden's Champion means that he's guaranteed to kick the bucket, and push Cassie further into the main role of the series moving forward. Additionally, the comics establish that Johnny Cage is Kotal Kahn's number one most trusted ally.


My bet as of now (before the Kombat Kast about the story) is that the final battle will COMPLETELY flip the series on its head, and it'll be the player as Kotal Kahn having to beat Liu Kang in order to save Outworld -- (and thus Earthrealm) from Quan Chi's ultimate plan.

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Looks like that's Jax, Kenshi, & Shinnok in the trailer as well (only the former of whom seems to be in Kombat directly insofar as we can tell).




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In getting excited about the Story Kombat Kast tomorrow, I was looking back at the point in MK9 that Raiden attempts to bargain with Quan Chi, and I noticed that he's wearing Shinnok's Kamidogu on his waist at ~1:00, which is the thing that Mileena is attempting to use to grab control of Outworld from Kotal Kahn, and one of the same items that is what the daggers in the comics are.

From here we also get the list of dead characters in MK9 that Quan Chi controls:

First, there're the characters we have no clue about in MKX:

• Cyber Sub-Zero
• Nightwolf
• Stryker
• Smoke
• Kabal

Then there're the ones we know about.

• Jade - Deceased. Also, her soul is connected to Kitana, and I would venture a guess that it's that connection that allows her to escape the Netherrealm & Quan Chi's control (since we've seen Kitana in a non-possessed state).
• Sindel - Possessed in the Netherrealm in the MKX Story Trailer.
• Jax - Possessed in the Netherrealm in the Cage Family trailer.
• Kung Lao - Never shown possessed. Somehow reincarnated. I'd assume because of the Elder Gods cutting in over the broken rules of Mortal Kombat that lead to his demise, though it could be related to the fact that he's a reincarnation of the original Kung Lao and there's some other magic at work that freed him.
• Kitana - Shown possessed in the MKX story trailer, and not possessed in the other content. Also her opening dialogue with Quan Chi makes it clear that she's looking for ways to definitively defeat him.





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[Interslicery]

Bring back Freddy and we got something sassy

 

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That was a good Friday the 13th announcement.


Quick list of things from the stream: We get to see a little bit of Johnny Cage's variations (no X-Rays or Fatalities), we get to see some of Chapter 1, as well as how they did the mocap & animation for it, and also the events have QTEs, but none of them can be failed, and they just change the animation for the sequence (i.e. you can look like more of a badass, or get your ass kicked). I'll make a list of times, etc. when it's up on their YouTube channel.




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[Joker]

Johnny Cage and his daughter both in game, Kung Lao brought back from the dead somehow...

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I feel your pain, man. .__.

Also, I forgot to mention that previously, Sub-Zero and Scorpion attack Johnny Cage & Sonya (the start of the game looks like it happens VERY shortly after the end of MK9). Sub-Zero looks like he's possessed like all of the other post-Netherrealm characters, but I can't tell if he's meant to be un-Cyber Sub-Zero or un-Noob Saibot.




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