No Man's Sky

[Claymore]

Version 1.08 came out yesterday. Various fixes, stability issues (the game no longer 'hangs' on each save waypoint), and graphic upgrades. Some have reported an improvement in some of the weather and element graphics, including sun lens flare, but not been on any appropriate planets to check this out yet.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Wow. Harsh, Sony dude.

The folks at The Know were a lot kinder to Sean Murray here than I thought they should have been (seriously, whatever "vision" you have for what you want a game to be, you know whether it actually contains the feature), but they seem like cool people. Or maybe I just have a crush on Ashley Jenkins.

 

[Claymore]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-09-16-sonys-shuhei-yoshida-on-no-mans-sky

Definitely throwing them under the bus.

Like they didn't know the state of the game and weren't pushing the PR on this super hard.

 

[Claymore]

And the ongoing saga / drama continues...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...dards-launches-investigation-into-no-mans-sky

It's actually just an investigation into images and promo material up on the Steam page, but it could prompt further action.

This game really feels like a sacrificial lamb at this point. If you want to target games with promotional material that didn't meet up to early promos and expectations ... then we'd be here all day.

 

[Dashell]

Is all that necessary? ... I mean... this seems like overkill. I don't know what people expect to come of this at this point

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Seems fair to me. I don't believe the game is suffering a symbolic thrashing either.

Unlike most games, which do have things about them that inevitably get lost from early production and marketing to final release, this one not only had a ton of features promised then not delivered -- but a none-too-small number of those features remained in the marketing right up to release with nary a statement that they wouldn't be present after all.

Murray and HG deserve whatever comes of this.

 

[Dashell]

I guess I didn't know they could do that but... well let that be a lesson for others who make games and make promises they can't keep

 

[Claymore]

For the handful of people still playing ... version 1.09 went live and address 30+ bug fixes as well as some gameplay difficulty changes.

They are also working on the first 'content update'. No ETA though.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Wow.

 

[Claymore]

That was a really well spoken and presented segment, though I wish he actually discussed what went wrong rather than just regurgitating the 'broken promises / dreams' angle and really tackled the issues at hand with NMS.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

He's going to catch some heat for even admitting that he knew back in March that players wouldn't be getting the game they were led to believe while saying nothing about it publicly up through release and beyond -- but it sounds like he offered Hello Games constructive criticism that could only have helped had they acted on it.

I'm mostly just shocked at how candid about it all he was.

 

[Interslicery]

Hello Games broke their Twitter silence.

 

[ForceStealer]

...what does that mean?

 

[Interslicery]

I take it as it didn't come out the way they were envisioning at the begining, and it's brought them nothing but trouble since release.

It seems like they also removed the tweet already.

 

[Tetsujin]

Could've also been hacked.

 

[Interslicery]

Seems like it was.

 

[Flintlock]

'twas.

 

[Cthulhu]

Likely. No 2FA probably. Or social engineering. IDK

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

That hacker did Hello Games a favor. For all of 10 minutes, Murray and those guys had regained a modicum of respect from gamers -- before they decided to disavow responsibility again.

EDIT: Uh, so this situation is actually weird as shit. It's looking like the real story here isn't so much a hacking incident as some poorly coordinated damage control and more lies from Sean Murray.

EDIT 2:

Murray: "Nice to see *someone* use that account at least."

Christ, what the fuck are these people doing?

 

[Dashell]

That article is more confusing than Kingdom Hearts' storyline... wow

 

[Cthulhu]

Christ, what the fuck are these people doing?

Being disappointed in themselves, I'd say. For making this game grow as big as it was. For being pressured by a publisher to try and make it into an AAA game. That kinda thing.

 

[Lulcielid]

Being disappointed in themselves, I'd say. For making this game grow as big as it was. For being pressured by a publisher to try and make it into an AAA game. That kinda thing.

Did SONY pressured Hello Games to turn NMS into an AAA or was the Dev team aiming for a scope way beyond their resources, manpower and skills? Just curious.

 

[Cthulhu]

I don't know the details; probably a combination of both, after seeing the enormous hype.

 

[Flintlock]

Christ, what the fuck are these people doing?

Honestly, my first thought was that it kinda reminds me of myself when I'm really depressed. I'll go and do some stupid thing and piss someone off, then apologise, then say something that contradicts the apology, then say I didn't mean it and confess to being a massive screw-up. Not healthy for me or for game developers.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

This train wreck is the gift that just keeps on giving: