Return to the Canyon - Red XIII/Nanaki fan club

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
This just in folks; apparently Red XIII can't swim!

If your grey submarine gets destroyed Cloud will have everyone shot out to safety on a speeding torpedo. :monster:
Red XIII will then remark,
"I can't swim..."

Interesting, hmyess.
Hmm, I didn't know that Shademp... but then, I've never lost the submarine game. :) It's quite amusing how he reacts when you surface the sub after winning, too. I think he gets over excited. :awesome:

Hmm, I wonder if that comment was a clue as to his feline nature...
 

Neutron Ronnie

From The Front of Armament
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Powerslave
Question regarding Nanaki that's been brought up before elsewhere in the forum, but w/e:

Why did Bugenhagen hide the truth about Seto from Nanaki?
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
I can't remember exactly (sorry, I had a bump on the head three hours ago), but didn't Bugenhagen say that Nanaki's mother and he decided not to tell Nanaki because they were worried about him risking himself?

Hang on, let me check an online script...

Nope, all Bugenhagen says is that Seto and Nanaki's mother made him promise not to tell Nanaki the truth.
 

Cannon_Fodder

Pro Adventurer
Long time no post guys!

I never thought of that before, but it makes no sense that Bugenhagen wouldn't tell Nanaki. The only reason I can think of is that he wanted it to be a sort of final lesson for Nanaki before he could be considered 'mature'. If Nanaki is going to learn to be the guardian of Cosmo Canyon, he's going to have to learn to do a lot of different things, right? Fighting obviously, but other smaller details though. Those kind of lessons, Bugenhagen can teach him while he's still just a young'un, but he has to save the most important lessons for later.

By more important lessons, I mean the nature of sacrifice. Since Nanaki's just a kid, he probably has this very romantic image of fighting, like he'll always be the hero and be loved without harm coming to him. By showing him what happened to Seto, maybe Bugenhagen was trying to show Nanaki that things don't always work out as we might hope, and sometimes you have to sacrifice in order to protect what you love. Seto not only sacrificed the rest of his free life, he sacrificed his reputation by 'fleeing' to the rear. He must have known what Nanaki would think of him, but he didn't have time to explain.

So yeah, my interpretation is that Bugenhagen wanted to show Nanaki when he was mature in order to give him the perspective to see more than just "BAW! MY DADDY BE FROZEN!"

Of course, the creators just needed a plot device, but I like my idea better.
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
Well, like I said, Seto and Nanaki's mother actually made Bugenhagen promise not to tell Nanaki. Bugenhagen also says the reason he broke that promise was because he knew he was near death (he actually says he's glad Nanaki returned while he was still here, but that's the gist of it).

I presume that Nanaki's parents made that request because they were afraid that if he knew the truth, he might seek to replicate his father's glories. Whereas, if he believed his father was a "wastral" (the word Nanaki actually uses when you return to Cosmo Canyon), he might seek to carve out his own destiny.

Also, the sins of the father guide the sons - it might have been they let Nanaki think Seto fled so that Nanaki would always strive to be courageous. (Here, I'm merely pulling on my own experience - my father cheated on my mum, and I sincerely doubt there's no link between that and my dedication to monogamy.)
 

Cannon_Fodder

Pro Adventurer
Random thought, but do you think Nanaki was allowed in the inns the party stayed at? Because I'd be pissed all to hell if I was fighting for the PLANET, yet looked down on 'cause of my fur and burning tail...
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
Well, at least we know he was allowed in at the inns at Kalm and the Gold Saucer. :monster:
Heh. True dat! :monster:

Hmm, I would have thought it was fine. If there were any who were difficult about it... well, I can see Yuffie opening the room's window and Nanaki jumping up. :P

Oh - anyone else played Dissidia: Final Fantasy yet? Nanaki is in the tutorial for one of the features. :)
 
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Cannon_Fodder

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I have played Dissidia and enjoy it very much! The Nanaki cameo was awesome, but Penelo's is the funniest. Easier to be funny when you're just insulting characters rather than explaining sutff I guess, haha.
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
I have played Dissidia and enjoy it very much! The Nanaki cameo was awesome, but Penelo's is the funniest. Easier to be funny when you're just insulting characters rather than explaining sutff I guess, haha.
...Penelo's a FFXII character, right? Cos, y'know... I've never played XII, so I couldn't pick her out of a line up.
Also, consider that Nanaki can be rather stupid.
"O...OH NO!!!" :P Now, just cos he veers into "l33t" speak when Yuffie grand theft materia's you, you can't call him stoopid. :lol:

Although, it is pretty funny.
 

Neutron Ronnie

From The Front of Armament
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Powerslave
Yup, Penelo's from FFXII... Some people love bashing her.

Hey, come to think of it, I don't think I ever had Nanaki in my party when Yuffie ran off with my materia... What does he say? (And how is Nanaki rather stupid?)
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
*Phoenix Pinion*

Hallowe'en themed fanarts :) :



 

Cannon_Fodder

Pro Adventurer
...that picture with the setting sun...the circle of life?!?

They're both good though, the bat one is adorable. I wonder if anyone ever tried to cosplay their dog as Nanaki? That'd be true commitment right there...
 

rakitaku00

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nerie
a nanaki club,count me in!!gotta luv him!i always put him on my party when i played ff7. i find his story more touching than aerith's death tbh.^_^
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
Welcome to the Canyon, rakitaku00. ^_^ Hope you enjoy your time with us.
...that picture with the setting sun...the circle of life?!?

They're both good though, the bat one is adorable. I wonder if anyone ever tried to cosplay their dog as Nanaki? That'd be true commitment right there...
Actually, I think that's the moon. It appears quite golden at Cosmo if I remember Seto's precipice correctly...

Actually, I have a Photoshopped picture of a kitten Nanaki somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. ^_^
 

Cannon_Fodder

Pro Adventurer
Welcome to the Canyon, rakitaku00. ^_^ Hope you enjoy your time with us.Actually, I think that's the moon. It appears quite golden at Cosmo if I remember Seto's precipice correctly...

Actually, I have a Photoshopped picture of a kitten Nanaki somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. ^_^

That pic would be appreciated, give us something to talk about, haha.

And also, the sun and moon are clearly the same thing :monster: Therefore, I'm right so there! Haha
 

rakitaku00

fujoshi
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nerie
thanks mantichorus.:D

Welcome to the Canyon, rakitaku00. ^_^ Hope you enjoy your time with us.Actually, I think that's the moon. It appears quite golden at Cosmo if I remember Seto's precipice correctly...

Actually, I have a Photoshopped picture of a kitten Nanaki somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. ^_^

i always thought nanaki was a dog when i was playing ff7.:P well even if he's a canine or a feline he's still one of my fave ff7 chara.;)
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
And also, the sun and moon are clearly the same thing :monster: Therefore, I'm right so there! Haha
The moon reflects the light of the sun - they're not the same thing. :P

Hmm, I won't bother with that Nomura quote again - however, he's said that Nanaki was meant to be feline. But he does have several canine traits - such as howling. He believe he's not really either, but a unique species.

But a snowflake with a burning tail sounds dangerously self-destructive. :P
 

Cannon_Fodder

Pro Adventurer
The moon reflects the light of the sun - they're not the same thing. :P

Lies. Clearly, moon = sun
at least in my mind, haha jk

Hmm, I won't bother with that Nomura quote again - however, he's said that Nanaki was meant to be feline. But he does have several canine traits - such as howling. He believe he's not really either, but a unique species.
Good point. Go back a page or two ratitaku and there's a quote posted about that, lovingly provided by Mantichorus here. Or don't, I can't make you.

But a snowflake with a burning tail sounds dangerously self-destructive. :P
Sad but true my friend... sad but true.
 
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