SE wants remake if it only takes a year to make

[Max Payne]

Also square needs to stfu and give me my awesome PS3 remake of FFVI already..

Hah, maybe when hell freezes over and Jesus rides in on his unicorn to slay all the dirty men with his rapier of justice.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Yeah, probably.

 

[Alex Strife]

Hell, Square! It's not that difficult! You develop FFVII sequel. It takes a lot of time and money. You earn a lot more money. Benefit, Everyone's happy.


I say:

ffviiremakerumors.net

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Hell, Square! It's not that difficult! You develop FFVII sequel. It takes a lot of time and money. You earn a lot more money. Benefit, Everyone's happy.

If it were that simple and guaranteed, I believe they would have already done it. There's going to be people who won't play it simply because it's a reissue -- prettier or not -- of something they've already payed to play once.

Just as many people pass up the "extended cut" DVDs when they come out, as well as the International versions of FF and KH games, there would be those to pass this up.

I'm sure there would be a lot of people who would buy it, of course -- maybe even enough to profit from it. But there's no denying that an entirely new project always has higher selling potential than a remastered version of something consumers are already intimately familiar with.

 

[DLPB]

The fact they're only comfortable with making an FFVII remake if they can cut corners and shovel it out in a year is indicative of their current business practicum and lazy development that anyone with one eye open can see with FFXIII. It's pretty damn obvious.

First its too hard because of towns, and then it can only be done within a year. It's just so sad...or are you going to defend that?

Couldn't agree more. For years there has been a systemic failure by Enix to take the time to make something decent rather than churn out anything on the back of what is now "a brand". They don't seem to see FF as a revolutionary series that shows originality and leads the way. No. Now it is a cash cow, and they know that come what may the "Final Fantasy" name will see them through no matter how rubbish the actual story or gameplay content.

I first became concerned after FFX-2, and since then we have had nothing but FF7 spin offs and gimmicks. Now that "couldn't care less" attitude as well as the graphics obession is actually eating into gameplay and basic RPG elements. No towns because "That was too hard to do with HD" of all the lazy statements, that one must be at the top!

Now they want to "remake VII" as long as it can be rushed out in 1 year? I think it is time people stopped hoping for a remake. The closest you are going to get to one, is by people who are already updating the PC version, such as myself. All you will get for a remake is this:

Sephiroth and Cloud flying through the air cutscene battle X100 (lasting 10 minutes a pop)

Cutscene. Cutscene. Cutscene. And probably dumbed down game dynamics. I still don't trust them to keep to the actual script.

So no, I am not in the least bit hopeful for a re-release. The way thing are at the moment, Enix would cock up running a bath.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I agree with almost everything you said there, Daniel -- especially the script sentiment; you know that shit's getting changed -- but I'd like to remind you not to forget the "Square" in "Square Enix."

They're every bit as responsible. Hell, it's Square's president helming the merged company.

Despite my problems with much of what they do these days, I do think they've done some good stuff since the merger -- namely AC/C, KHII and Dissidia (this one, of course, being made by staff who were a bunch of fanboys themselves).

 

[Max Payne]

Nomura seems a bit of a purist. Maybe we can have faith in him!(lol)

But keep that shit away from Kitase.

 

[ForceStealer]

It is interesting, everyone always spends all their time ripping on Nomura, when Kitase could have been the culprit all along.

He did direct the original VII though, so what the hell?

 

[Max Payne]

He did direct the original VII though, so what the hell?

I think part of it was he had Sakuguchi breathing down his neck the whole time.

But yeah, you'd think HE would be the one against blatant changes.

 

[Cthulhu]

You know what? I want to learn Japanese, and then go over to Japan and sit in on some of Square's developer meetings. And the first time a remake comes up I say JUST DO IT ALREADY!!!!!!! OR STFU AN GTFO!!!!!

Just yell 'HENTAI TENTACLE RAEP KAWAIII ^_______^' and they'll get the message. The ^_______^ may be a bit difficult to pronounce though.

On domain name, I may also reserve ffremakerumors.net (without a number) for something more general. But I'm not sure yet. For now, hardcore pornography.

Also, registr'd.

 

[Ⓐaron]

For years there has been a systemic failure by Enix to take the time to make something decent

It's the Square side of the company that seems to have problems with this. The Dragon Quest series seems to have maintained the same quality as ever, and they haven't been rushing product out at a ridiculous pace.

But yeah, everything else you said is pretty much right on.

 

[Max Payne]

Yeah, DQ8 was fucking awesome old school RPG goodness.

 

[Cloudskye]

i wish they would shut the hell up

oh my god SE just stop talking please

 

[DLPB]

When I said enix, I was being lazy I didn't mean to single anyone out, in fact my thinking is that Hironobu's leaving may have had more to do with this. Not sure. Enix merger *may* have also had a lot to do with it too...

 

[Max Payne]

I felt sorta different about SE abandoning old franchises like the Chrono games now. I don't really have faith in their ability to do it justice.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I think part of it was he had Sakuguchi breathing down his neck the whole time.

Well, at the time, there wasn't really anything for Kitase to fuck up yet.

Honestly, though, I've always gotten the impression that Sakaguchi didn't have much involvement with the creative angles of FFVII and especially VIII because of this interview:

http://playstationjapan.tripod.com/Sakaguchi.html

Also, you really don't ever see anyone talking about what ideas Sakaguchi came up with for VII, except when Nomura said that the final product was completely different from what ideas Sakaguchi had put on the table:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/793/793956p1.html

That said, he definitely gets credited for the Lifestream concept in interviews with the crew, though Kitase apparently is the one who came up with its visual depiction (EDGE magazine, May 2003; issue #123).



And why do I know all these interviews off the top of my head? God, I'm such a fucking dork.

 

[Max Payne]

Eh, I still think he had a part in keeping the team in line and not getting too out of control with their ideas and whatnot.

Maybe.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I think it's safe to say he probably still set the tone for how things were done even when he wasn't sitting in the director's chair.

That chair, by the way, was later burned and replaced with a tank.

 

[Mantichorus]

alright, ffviiremakerumors.net / .com, remakerumors.net/.com (more generic), ffremakerumors.net/.com (FF specific), or the British spelling (rumours)?

Well, Canada spells it correctly with a "u", too. IIRC, and our friends Down Under may correct me if necessary, Australia and New Zealand spell it that way, too.

So, only the United States spells it wrong without a "u".

I'm still on the fence regarding a remake. But, I really think SE would be better off not listening too much to the fans if they do decide to do one. They may try to please everyone, only to wind up pissing everyone off disappointing folks.

 

[Cthulhu]

I can, off course, register the rumours sites as well to avoid spellign mistakes when people type it. €9,- a year.

 

[ForceStealer]

Well, Canada spells it correctly with a "u", too.

That just 'cause Canadians go out of their way to differentiate themselves from Americans.

 

[DLPB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvshhfV7FKg&fmt=18

There you go, that is as close as I can get it (without retranslation)

This is just an example

 

[Lord Noctis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvshhfV7FKg&fmt=18

There you go, that is as close as I can get it (without retranslation)

This is just an example

Whatching that video I noticed something I've never noticed before. If you look closely when Aerith is walking out of the alley, you can see Reno in the shadows to the left.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I can't tell if it's him or not. Certainly looks the way his uniform did as rendered in the original game, but without his characteristic red hair being visible, I hesitate to say for sure.

That'd be a hell of a nice touch, though. Certainly the dude is looking at Aerith at any rate.

 

[Lord Noctis]

I can't tell if it's him or not. Certainly looks the way his uniform did as rendered in the original game, but without his characteristic red hair being visible, I hesitate to say for sure.

That'd be a hell of a nice touch, though. Certainly the dude is looking at Aerith at any rate.

Can't tell the hair color, but the shape of the hair seems the same.