The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

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OneWingedDemon

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still though, the site shutting down isn't all that surprising. there aren't many (active) ff7 fansites -- specifically character & couple sites -- left in general.
It isn't a matter of activity and lack of interest on her part though.
Just SE's lack of interest in Cleris.
 
I gotta say, it's not backpedaling to revamp your essays/theories when a new game comes out. I mean, we do it all the time here as well. New canon comes out, you gotta adjust, and not just for LTD-related things.

Difference is when new info comes out, it just adds to the pile of 'Cloti evidence'. On the other side, it requires changing the Clerith arguments to fit in with this new information... because they have to twist the Cloti/Zerith out of it.
 

Ryushikaze

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Tim, Ryu
I have noticed that the more Cloti that comes out, the more it just means that Clerith is canon.

It's amazing...even in my limited trips around the internetz, it's easy to come across this "logic". It baffles the mind, and has given me a brain tumor. It takes a lot of effort just to read it; I can't imagine how much effort it must take to come up with half the crap.

It's a natural result of Conclusion down analysis. The facts and logic become twisted as the hypothesis is protected.

I've seen it in action a number of times. Quite amusingly with regards to FF8 and one poster's theory that the world of FF8 had already been time compressed, but a well organized compression, and subdivided into 8 different temporal regions.
And all the player characters are genetically related to each other.
And propagators.
It was weird.
 

Dana Scully

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Difference is when new info comes out, it just adds to the pile of 'Cloti evidence'. On the other side, it requires changing the Clerith arguments to fit in with this new information... because they have to twist the Cloti/Zerith out of it.

Fair enough. I'll say this much for them, though. They do try.

They may be totally irrational to the point of stupid, but you gotta give 'em points for effort. You know, the same way you give a kindergarten student a pat on the head when you ask them to draw you a dog and they shove the crayon up their nose instead.
 

looneymoon

they/them
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Rishi
Or like a retarded dog.

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Zee

wangxian married
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Zee
goddamn you liz i'm trying to stifle what is sure to be a psychotic fit of laughter to my co-workers
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
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I LOVE THAT PIC SO MUCH AND ENJOY RANDOMLY SAYING 'good job dog you found it' TO FRIENDS
 

Vendel

Banned
Youtard quote of the day!

youtard said:
Starting a family would be considered very romantic, had Case of Tifa not clarified that their family was made up of friends.

"Tifa thought she could get over anything while being with friends that she could call her family" - Tifa clearly states her family is made up of friends. Hell, even Tifa says herself in AC that their family can't even be considered as real, a real family is through wedlock, romance, isn't it?

Humm. I guess Marlene is one of Tifa's companions with the same wounds and sins? Who knew?

Also a real family is only through wedlock. But true love breaks down silly barriers like your partner being brutally murdered. Right?
 

Tifabelle

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Wasn't that after Barret left anyway? Forget about all the other stuff though that states that the family (Cloud's family, btw) is made up of Tifa, Cloud, Marlene, & Denzel.

And I like how this person completely miscontrued Tifa's "I guess that only works for real families" line. Classic. But I guess when you misinterpret everything else...

Family is only through wedlock? Does that mean children not born in wedlock are not part of a family? Does that also apply to adopted children? Because then I guess Marlene and Denzel can never be a part of a family.
 

Vendel

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Wasn't that after Barret left anyway? Forget about all the other stuff though that states that the family (Cloud's family, btw) is made up of Tifa, Cloud, Marlene, & Denzel.

And I like how this person completely miscontrued Tifa's "I guess that only works for real families" line. Classic. But I guess when you misinterpret everything else...

Yeah it's taking crap out of context and cherry picking 101. Shipping goggles thy name is Clerith.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
Rule of Rabid Shipping 1 : Heads my pair wins, Tails yours loses.

Seriously, that's what this comes down to a lot of times. "Lalalalala! I'm not listening! There's no official pairing anyways, but mine is still official!"
 

Tifabelle

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It's just years of bullshit and lulz... I'll add a bit more...

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Make of that what you will.
 

Tifabelle

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That pic just came up a few days ago...unless it's an old one, it's the first time I've seen it.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
This picture was in response to people mentioning Cloud and Tifa made a 'sort of Tao' in the flowerfield, which was included as one of many different bits of evidence of their complimentary natures.
This image is 'proof' that Aerith is in this scene, and somehow between Cloud and Tifa. I have no clue HOW, of course. Really, it's an insane assertion treated as proof to validate a further insane assumption.

And yes, it's quite an old image.
 

Tifabelle

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^Yes, that was the explanation for it. I didn't realize it was old as it's still a topic of discussion.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
You will find that there is no strawman too old for the rabids to trot back out and use to 'prove' Clerith and/or 'debunk' pro C/T Evidence.
 

Tifabelle

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I'd never heard it before. I agree that both arguments seem pretty far-fetched.
 

Vendel

Banned
The youtards and the people that basically repeat some clerith line they saw are one thing. But the ones who put the real effort in are the scary ones.

I mean who else could say "I don't understand how people can see C/T", then come at you with some string theory that would make a theoretical physicist blush?

My head a splode.
 
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Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
the tao argument is still stupid as hell

just saying

Except it's not really 'an argument.' It was, at best, noting a strange pattern in the interesting way they quite literally impossibly fell so that their faces could be caught in frame together, along numerous other much more concrete pieces of actual evidence of the way the two were designed to complement each other. The Impossifall is a lot more noteworthy than the 'sorta Tao'
 
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