The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

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ForceStealer

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No no, its called the "3 day timeline" because the movie takes place over the course of three days :monster:
They pass out at like noon or something and wake up at 6:30.

And you know what song they should have used?
 

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Oh good. I was like, "WTF did I miss", lol. Is the timeline somewhere on the front page?
 

Splintered

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2005. Early trailers and teaser info in magazines. People took 'Hooded Man's' statement to Cloud taking care of orphans and prerelease info about Tifa saying the same thing to guess 'Huh, maybe they run an orphanage.' Rabid Cleriths in this period insisted they had to run different orphanages, because there was no way they'd be living/working/whatever together.
Really? I was on ACF for a huge chunk of the earlier parts of the info, and I never heard of this before. There was a lot of "Cloud is living on his own" but never rivaled orphanages. I remember getting info about the orphanages and was actively involved in the LTD thread there, but I never encountered this argument. It couldn't have been widespread.

Reunion Files. 3 day timeline. 6:30 PM. IIRC.
Healed on their own? Ehhhhh, I never got that impression. I always thought Aerith spread her jesus juice on them. Guess I was wrong, no wonder they changed the theme to a more worried one.
Heh, I never considered that the switch from 'Aerith's Theme' to 'Anxious Heart' meant anything, as far as the character relations go. I just thought it changed the mood of that scene, from the less proper 'perfume commercial' feel that emanated from Aerith's theme, to this more gloomy and worried atmosphere of 'Anxious Heart' which fits this part of the movie. Cloud is suffering from Geostigma, Tifa is down, and the kids are gone. ACC's choice of music is much better.
That's kinda what I got too. Visually you could make the argument, but in general, that whole atmosphere changed.

A much better choice tbh. Makes it more appropriately disheartening rather than a hopeful one.
 
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ForceStealer

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I actually never got any impression that Aeris healed anything at that part. This is the first I've heard of it. Cloud got up from his Geostigma attack up at Zack's grave, I imagined he would again. As for Tifa, well, as I suggested with that song, we all know sleeping heals all wounds :)
 

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the point remains the visual/musical cue was geared towards an aeris cameo in that scene. personally i find the switch in music unnecessary and confusing because that song has very little to do with c/t and is actually a pretty creepy tune. a variation on tifa's theme would have made a lot more sense imo. especially since it would have been a throwback to when her theme merged with cloud's/the world theme in the ending of FF7, when he caught her in time. since he was "late", her melody solo would have fit a little better.

/music nerd

Yeah that happens when you make your character artist direct your movie instead of hiring a professional.
 

ForceStealer

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Because the "professionals" have such a great track record with video game movies so far.

$5,000,000 says that if they used Tifa's theme people would bitch about using it again after they just used it when she and Marlene entered the church.
 

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I'm sure some folks had a problem with them using Tifa's theme in Aerith's church...pssht.

Anxious Heart was good. I don't think Tifa's theme would have made much sense.
 

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Because the "professionals" have such a great track record with video game movies so far.

Fine, get a film school dropout. I'm sure you're not seriously suggesting that AC's nonsensical mess couldn't be vastly improved with some director savvy.
 

ForceStealer

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I don't really see a precedent for why it would be. Say what you want about AC/C, its still one of the better video game movies out there. In fact, it might even be the best...I can't think of a single one that I have bothered to watch twice.
 

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Fine, get a film school dropout. I'm sure you're not seriously suggesting that AC's nonsensical mess couldn't be vastly improved with some director savvy.

The one's available would probably make it worst.

The one's who would make it better, probably couldn't give a rats ass about a video game movie.

See the dilemma here? :monster:
 

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The one's available would probably make it worst.

The one's who would make it better, probably couldn't give a rats ass about a video game movie.

See the dilemma here? :monster:

As evidenced by that long, well-known list of directors approached by SE who turned it down. I mean Nomura was just the very last resort, right?

Come on dude.
 

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As evidenced by that long, well-known list of directors approached by SE who turned it down. I mean Nomura was just the very last resort, right?

Come on dude.

I'm going by the trend of most video game directors sucking balls, making their adaptions the fodder of ridicule and scorn. Why is it that most video game adaptions end up appearing as Uwe Boll swill? Are they just doomed to failure, or is it because the talent just isn't lining up to do it?
 

ForceStealer

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@hito:I didn't know that. Learn something new every day :monster:

Splintered...I'm not sure, but that didn't exactly get glowing reviews either. (EDIT: From the looks of animenewsnetwork, which is what came up in my google search, Makoto Kamiya has been a special effects director, Degeneration was his first full director job.)
 
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I'm going by the trend of most video game directors sucking balls, making their adaptions the fodder of ridicule and scorn. Why is it that most video game adaptions end up appearing as Uwe Boll swill? Are they just doomed to failure, or is it because the talent just isn't lining up to do it?

Historically video game adaptions are written and targeted to an audience assumed to be knuckle dragging fanboys who will swallow anything. That is why they are doomed. Spielberg could not make Mortal Kombat II a great movie, because the problem wasn't the directing.

Which isn't to say AC would be a great movie if the disjointed cinematography were fixed, but it would be less annoying.

It was a direct-to-dvd movie dude. How long is that list of well-known directors that make those?

Well-known list of directors, not list of well-known directors. As in, everyone knows SE just handed Nomura the keys.
 

ForceStealer

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Question: Have you seen ACC null? I know the prevailing attitude around here is that "a polished piece of shit is still shit," but if your problem was disjointed cinematography, ACC went a long way to making the movie flow better. (I know there's still the before/after part with the fight in the Forgotten City, but beyond that there was a lot filled in between previously much tougher-to-follow scene changes.)
 
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I think a problem with movies based on video games series is that movies are limited in the amount of time they have to tell a story. In these instances, you're typically required to have some basic knowledge of the plot before watching the movie.

Someone tuning in to ACC (even with its added scenes) would have problems following along on some of the finer details. Basic stuff like Jenova, who Sephiroth really is, what materia is, etc. Sure you could get the overall idea of the movie and still enjoy it, but some of the plot points would just be over your head.
 
The time of good video game based movies will come. ACC is a step in the right direction and I hope others will take inspiration from it, plus add some solid story directing to their projects.

It took 70 years since the inception of comic books to find respected ground in the movie industry. Video games will get there too. Eventually. This I believe.
 
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