The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

[Splintered]

Hey guys, guess what I found! Aerith's ribbon is pink, which is sort of like red, which is sort of like the red string of fate. And because Cloud watched Aerith's ribbon fall out of her hair, it means that they are connected through the red string of fate.

Reading too much into something? What are you talking about?

 

[Ryushikaze]

Hey guys, guess what I found! Aerith's ribbon is pink, which is sort of like red, which is sort of like the red string of fate. And because Cloud watched Aerith's ribbon fall out of her hair, it means that they are connected through the red string of fate.

Reading too much into something? What are you talking about?

Connection to Zack? What do you MEAN connection to Zack? He only bought it for her on their first ever date! It can't possibly connect her to Zack. And it's not the same ribbon anyways. The color is faded and the edges are slightly different, there's no WAY it's the same thing even though we're told it is. There is no way this Ribbon which Zack got her is the ribbon he got her, and it's not like it means anything cuz he's like her ex and her wearing pink doesn't MEAN anything, nevermind their promise, and it's obvious the Ribbon is the red string and it can't connect it to Zack because it connects her to Cloud! What's that? How does it connect her to Cloud? It just DOES, okay!

I'd like to say I'm exaggerating that argument. I am not. I am merely condensing all the stupid into about a paragraph, instead of over three or so pages.

 

[Raidou]

"Sometimes he would bring home rare foods and surprise Tifa."

Cloud makes this why?

 

[Ryushikaze]

Sane answer: Because Cloud, Dork as he is, wants to help, bring home gifts. So he finds an interesting food, brings it home for Tifa (and Marlene and later Denzel, I'd presume).

Insane Answer: THEY'RE POISON! He's trying to kill the naggy bitchy clingy slut-ho so he can finally be free of her and romp through the flowerfields with his one true love!

 

[ForceStealer]

naggy bitchy clingy slut-ho

I confess I thought this when Denzel goes through Cloud's phone and there are 20 million missed calls from 7th Heaven

 

[Tifabelle]

Insane Answer: THEY'RE POISON! He's trying to kill the naggy bitchy clingy slut-ho so he can finally be free of her and romp through the flowerfields with his one true love!

But I thought death doesn't stop tru luv?!

I confess I thought this when Denzel goes through Cloud's phone and there are 20 million missed calls from 7th Heaven

I thought, "No one else calls him? What a loser."

 

[ForceStealer]

Or he just answers everyone else

 

[Zee]

This image is 'proof' that Aerith is in this scene, and somehow between Cloud and Tifa. I have no clue HOW, of course. Really, it's an insane assertion treated as proof to validate a further insane assumption.

I have no idea about that pink blob, but the drop of water and Aeris' melody playing right after it are supposed to imply Aeris was healing them in that scene, so yeah, she was there.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I have no idea about that pink blob, but the drop of water and Aeris' melody playing right after it are supposed to imply Aeris was healing them in that scene, so yeah, she was there.

"There" as in watching over them, sure. "There" as in the scene, no. Much less between the two. Guiltwolf has a focus in that scene, not Aerith. She could be argued as the backdrop (flowers and whitespace) but again, that doesn't make her 'between' the two, and definitely has connotations of supporting both Cloud and Tifa. But then again, that's the sane interpretation, Zee, and when we involve that picture and the people behind it, we've long since left saneville for crazytown.
Also, Aerith's Melody is not there any longer in ACC, replaced with Anxious Heart, again focused towards C/T.
That's the real point- the focus of the scene is Cloud and Tifa, not Aerith. It's a lot of panning and rotating shots of both of them, a tight focus to both their faces, and that tight shot got used for their keyword, etc. etc. etc.

PinkBlob Aerith in this scene is just another set of craziness from the folks who brought us Rival Orphanages, Meaningless Kanji for Koibito, Almighty Cetra Aerith, and the Pink Red ribbon string connecting Aerith to Cloud (and not Zack) and Tifa's hair ribbon doing no such thing.
Model Continuity errors= True love. Welcome to Crazy town.
I suppose labelling them facetiously as 'Real True Cleriths' works as a handle, since they do treat anyone with anyone going outside the party line as 'not a real Clerith.'

 

[Tifabelle]

Actually they changed the song in ACC to "Anxious Heart". And I've no doubt of Aerith's presence in the scene as a healing force, but I find it amusing that she be in this particular spot.

Edit: Ah, Ryu is 20 seconds faster than me.

 

[Splintered]

Okay, I give. What's "rival orphanages"?

 

[Tifabelle]

Okay, I give. What's "rival orphanages"?

I's confused also

 

[Ryushikaze]

2005. Early trailers and teaser info in magazines. People took 'Hooded Man's' statement to Cloud taking care of orphans and prerelease info about Tifa saying the same thing to guess 'Huh, maybe they run an orphanage.' Rabid Cleriths in this period insisted they had to run different orphanages, because there was no way they'd be living/working/whatever together.

 

[Tifabelle]

Ah. But it is true that they don't live together, right? He lives in Aerith's church under her holy light. At least that what cleriths have told me. Cause Cloud hates a bitch.

 

[Zee]

Also, Aerith's Melody is not there any longer in ACC, replaced with Anxious Heart, again focused towards C/T.

the point remains the visual/musical cue was geared towards an aeris cameo in that scene. personally i find the switch in music unnecessary and confusing because that song has very little to do with c/t and is actually a pretty creepy tune. a variation on tifa's theme would have made a lot more sense imo. especially since it would have been a throwback to when her theme merged with cloud's/the world theme in the ending of FF7, when he caught her in time. since he was "late", her melody solo would have fit a little better.

/music nerd

 

[ForceStealer]

The theme song for their hometown has nothing to do with them?

 

[Madame Mayor]

Isn't there also a line in the ultimania saying that they healed on their own and that it actually wasn't Aerith for some reason?

EDIT: Well if it does I have no clue where it says that. I just have this vague memory of a line like that.

 

[Shademp]

Heh, I never considered that the switch from 'Aerith's Theme' to 'Anxious Heart' meant anything, as far as the character relations go. I just thought it changed the mood of that scene, from the less proper 'perfume commercial' feel that emanated from Aerith's theme, to this more gloomy and worried atmosphere of 'Anxious Heart' which fits this part of the movie. Cloud is suffering from Geostigma, Tifa is down, and the kids are gone. ACC's choice of music is much better.

 

[ForceStealer]

Yeah that too, I never thought of it in terms of Cloti - but then I never think in terms of ships - I just thought it was a much better choice.

 

[Tifabelle]

Is that the same song that plays during the "under the highwind" scene? I can't recall. Where else was it used in the game? Does anyone remember?

 

[ForceStealer]

Anxious Heart? It's the Nibelheim theme.

 

[Tifabelle]

I know, but only in Nibelheim? I thought I remembered it playing somewhere else too

 

[Shademp]

I know, but only in Nibelheim? I thought I remembered it playing somewhere else too

The track played during the Cloud-Tifa Highwind scene is "On That Day, Five Years Ago", not "Anxiety" (FFVII OST), which is the standard Nibelheim theme.
The two can be mistaken with each other, as they have their similarities. In fact, listening to these two tracks side by side makes me think one is a 'remix' of the other.

I never thought of it in terms of Cloti - but then I never think in terms of ships -

Same here. There are far more interesting things the Compilation has to offer than love contrivances, real or imagined.

 

[Tifabelle]

Ah, thanks! FFVII had a few great songs. Aside from Tifa's theme which is one of my favs, Turks theme & Highwind Takes to the Skies are other ones I like. My all time favorite FF song though has to be Terra's theme - so cool, I wish it were longer. Actually, I hope Duodecim has more bg music from all the FFs. And perhaps a few more originals - there were only a handful in Dissidia.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Isn't there also a line in the ultimania saying that they healed on their own and that it actually wasn't Aerith for some reason?

EDIT: Well if it does I have no clue where it says that. I just have this vague memory of a line like that.

Reunion Files. 3 day timeline. 6:30 PM. IIRC.

Yeah that too, I never thought of it in terms of Cloti - but then I never think in terms of ships - I just thought it was a much better choice.

Oh, no, I'm not saying the musical focus there was romantic, just that it was on them and reinforced the scene as being about them and their troubles, and not someone else who was not 'in' the shots.