The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

[Winter]

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN. THEIR STORY OF LOVE AND DEATH IS TRAGIC FFFFUUUUU.

THE END HAD ME SOBBING. HIS LAST MEMORIES ARE OF HER. THE LAST DMW SEQUENCE IS OF HER. HE DIES TRYING TO SEE HER AGAIN. AERITH TELLS ZACK THAT HER LIFE IS GOING SO WELL THANKS TO HIM. WHAT DID CLOUD AND AERITH EVER DO THAT WAS SO MEMORABLE HUH? WOW, THEY HAD A FEW QUOTES, ZACK AND AERITH HAVE LIKE AN ETERNITY OF QUOTES AND PROOFS, BUT ONE SLIGHTLY CXA QUOTE IS ENOUGH TO ERASE THEM ALL.

^Imagine an angry Hitler shouting this.

hahaha I didn't say the pairing was bad, I just found the CC romance to be incredibly underwhelming and generic.

they didn't even kiss

AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS I ASSUMED THEY HAD BEEN HAVING SEX

I WAS DISAPPOINT

and what makes cloud and aerith special is that they are fucked up, sad people. and you know what? I like that.

 

[ForceStealer]

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN. THEIR STORY OF LOVE AND DEATH IS TRAGIC FFFFUUUUU.

THE END HAD ME SOBBING. HIS LAST MEMORIES ARE OF HER. THE LAST DMW SEQUENCE IS OF HER. HE DIES TRYING TO SEE HER AGAIN. AERITH TELLS ZACK THAT HER LIFE IS GOING SO WELL THANKS TO HIM. WHAT DID CLOUD AND AERITH EVER DO THAT WAS SO MEMORABLE HUH? WOW, THEY HAD A FEW QUOTES, ZACK AND AERITH HAVE LIKE AN ETERNITY OF QUOTES AND PROOFS, BUT ONE SLIGHTLY CXA QUOTE IS ENOUGH TO ERASE THEM ALL.

^Imagine an angry Hitler shouting this.

If she only watched the cutscene, she may not have seen the very sad battle that led into it.
You should play it, winter. Not saying you'll love the story or anything. But the combat's fun enough, and there are enough reasons to have a PSP by this point, and they're not expensive anymore (except the Go, of course, but why the hell would I tell you to get a Go?)


...did you all have sex with your very first boy/girlfriend?
And computer generated kisses ALWAYS look weird, I'd just as soon go without it.

 

[Ryushikaze]

hahaha I didn't say the pairing was bad, I just found the CC romance to be incredibly underwhelming and generic.

they didn't even kiss

AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS I ASSUMED THEY HAD BEEN HAVING SEX

I WAS DISAPPOINT

Well, Oral doesn't count as Intercourse, Winter.

 

[Makoeyes987]

The sad thing is that they probably both died virgins. Since apparently the CC Ultimania wants us to believe they were chaste and never made that step yet or something.

Well, Oral doesn't count as Intercourse, Winter.

 

[Splintered]

She never moved on, Splintered. How is any of that indicative of a woman who's moved on and is ready to start a new, healthy, and full relationship?

Maybe she was trying to. But she didn't. Two weeks on the road with a guy trying to save the world isn't really much time to get up and move on.

She carried his memory, and honored it.

Wearing a pink ribbon in memory of Aerith did not mean the team did not move on from her memory. Cloud didn't, but everyone else did. Aerith honoring his memory by wearing pink and his ribbon.

The dead, how you deal with it, and the memories they leave with you are huge parts of the compilation. Aerith decided to move on with her life after Zack. This does not mean you divorce them completely from who you are. Especially since Zack was part of what made Aerith, Aerith.

 

[Madame Mayor]

The date is the starting to move on point. There has to be some time in between deciding you want to move on and actually achieving it.

 

[null]

Wow, so her stating the obvious and saying she wants to "meet you" means she's over Zack?

Well she's made of some pretty tough stuff. Especially considering she goes on to clam up and not even come clean about her dead boyfriend's death.

Yeah. That's real healthy. Movin' on strong, right?

Did I say it means she's over Zack? No, I'm saying it means she's not secretly pretending Cloud is Zack and that her love for Cloud is separate.

Why is openly declaring she's moving on not good enough to assume she's moving on? Tell me! WHAT DOES IT TAKE MAN?????

BTW isn't the date after Gongaga?

 

[Celes Chere]

I just found the CC romance to be incredibly underwhelming and generic.

they didn't even kiss

Underwhelming... when it came to Zerith romance? Not at all for me. *__* Then again, cliche romances will get me every time. x'D

Do they have to? I think that Zack crying in front of her, and Aerith hugging him and holding him for comfort was like the sweetest thing ever. T___T

Wow, this thread is how it used to be, 245234534565364354 posts per second.

 

[Makoeyes987]

She carried his memory, and honored it.

Wearing a pink ribbon in memory of Aerith did not mean the team did not move on from her memory. Cloud didn't, but everyone else did. Aerith honoring his memory by wearing pink and his ribbon.

The dead, how you deal with it, and the memories they leave with you are huge parts of the compilation. Aerith decided to move on with her life after Zack. This does not mean you divorce them completely from who you are. Especially since Zack was part of what made Aerith, Aerith.

The whole AVALANCHE team weren't in a polygamous relationship with Aerith as the sugar momma leader. The entire implications of their ribbon wearing is on a different level than her wearing it for Zack. Her boyfriend and lover.

Again, I want you to tell me how in FFVII Aerith moved on from Zack when she can't even say a damn thing to his parents or anyone else about his death. Any grief counselor will tell you that the first step in moving on is talking about it. Being unable to even utter a word about it isn't an indication of moving on at all.

Did I say it means she's over Zack? No, I'm saying it means she's not secretly pretending Cloud is Zack and that her love for Cloud is separate.

Why is openly declaring she's moving on not good enough to assume she's moving on? Tell me! WHAT DOES IT TAKE MAN?????

BTW isn't the date after Gongaga?

Dude, when did I say she never got over Cloud being a copy of Zack? I didn't disagree with that.

She hasn't moved on because she's still not even coming to terms with his death! Some putzy deceleration of romantic interest isn't going to magically make her adjusted. As proven by the fact she stares face to face with the dead guy's parents and doesn't even say anything. Even when they question her.

....Oh fuck you. The date was on the last visit to Gold Saucer not the first... Goddamn you.

Bitch still didn't tell anyone. So eat it. She hasn't fully moved on yet. She's just starting.

 

[ForceStealer]

The sad thing is that they probably both died virgins. Since apparently the CC Ultimania wants us to believe they were chaste and never made that step yet or something.

Did they have a chance? They didn't seem to have a ton of time together, and when they did they were in a church...
Also, I kinda liked the innocent relationship. First, it makes sense that Aerith who grew up in a damn laboratory would know very little about romance and relationships. Meanwhile Zack, who I had assumed got some, found himself attracted by her naivety and actual caring.

And how is them not kissing generic? Doesn't every love story ever have a kiss? Isn't it more unique for not having it?

 

[Winter]

If she only watched the cutscene, she may not have seen the very sad battle that led into it.
You should play it, winter. Not saying you'll love the story or anything. But the combat's fun enough, and there are enough reasons to have a PSP by this point, and they're not expensive anymore (except the Go, of course, but why the hell would I tell you to get a Go?)


...did you all have sex with your very first boy/girlfriend?
And computer generated kisses ALWAYS look weird, I'd just as soon go without it.

I really would like a PSP, mostly just for Dissidia. And because they look sexy. But I don't have $160 If I can pick up my second job I may be able to swindle one.

And I'll give CC this, the ending cutscene with Cloud and Zack was beautiful.

and uh, yeah, but regardless Aerith was 17, I would think she'd be old enough to be having sex. BUT, ALAS, OPINIONS

 

[Fighter]

So this is a love triangle is it.

 

[ForceStealer]

Old enough, sure, but by no means guaranteeing it. I was a virgin at 17

 

[null]

Again, I want you to tell me how in FFVII Aerith moved on from Zack when she can't even say a damn thing to his parents or anyone else about his death. Any grief counselor will tell you that the first step in moving on is talking about it. Being unable to even utter a word about it isn't an indication of moving on at all.

What would you say if I complained about the physics of Cloud and Sephiroth flying 800 feet in the air chopping up skyscrapers? I'm sure it's pretty close to what I'm saying about applying realistic stages of grief to a video game character.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I see you are at a loss for words for my Luxurious moustache and snazzy chapeu.

So this is a love triangle is it.

Yep. Null, Mako, and Winter.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Hey, the fantasy physics of FFVII doesn't negate the norms of human behavior and psychology here!

We're given no indication that they don't feel shit like human beings.

I see you are at a loss for words for my Luxurious moustache and snazzy chapeu.

LOL the fact you quipped with that so casually was just..wow. XD

Yep. Null, Mako, and Winter.

...wat.

 

[Splintered]

If she only watched the cutscene, she may not have seen the very sad battle that led into it.
You should play it, winter. Not saying you'll love the story or anything. But the combat's fun enough, and there are enough reasons to have a PSP by this point, and they're not expensive anymore (except the Go, of course, but why the hell would I tell you to get a Go?)

I agree. Just watching the cut scenes doesn't give you the full emotional impact of the entire game.

Like when Zack was dying, and the game system that you worked with for hours, that was always faithful breaking down as you play? A great addition. I love it when there's a mix of gameplay and story.

Also, when you meet Aerith for the first time and that song plays in the background. And in fact, it plays in the background everytime you two are in the church. It has become one of my favorite songs from a Final Fantasy game ever.

Not going to lie, I actually stood in the church longer than was healthy just to listen to that song.

It was made even sadder that this songs that may as well be their themesong is called "The Burdened."

In fact, I think I totally love the entire ost for this game.

 

[Ryushikaze]

What would you say if I complained about the physics of Cloud and Sephiroth flying 800 feet in the air chopping up skyscrapers? I'm sure it's pretty close to what I'm saying about applying realistic stages of grief to a video game character.

People breaking physics is one thing, and doesn't immediately ruin a story.
People not acting like people, on the other hand...

We have to interpret fictional people based on our own standards, because that's all we have without a whole hell of a lot more information. Expecting realistic stages of grief, and well, everything emotional is only normal. Otherwise our characters become weird un-people, who look and act sort of human, but not quite.

 

[null]

Damnit Mako already e-climaxed, now he's just waiting for the rest of us to finish.

 

[ForceStealer]

You can find the old fat ones for like $90, winter. That's what I have and they're easier to mod anyway.

 

[Splintered]

You can find the old fat ones for like $90, winter. That's what I have and they're easier to mod anyway.

I got me a handmedown from a friend who always buys the newest models. It's a brick but it works fine and I love it.

I have no idea how to mod it though. When I tried to google and find out, my computer got a virus and I had to wipe my computer. I took it as a sign from above to not fuck with videogames. everything else is free game though

 

[Zee]

The sad thing is that they probably both died virgins. Since apparently the CC Ultimania wants us to believe they were chaste and never made that step yet or something.

fuck the ultimania, never has aeris ever struck me as a virgin.

Spoiler

Zack was bottom.

 

[null]

People breaking physics is one thing, and doesn't immediately ruin a story.
People not acting like people, on the other hand...

We have to interpret fictional people based on our own standards, because that's all we have without a whole hell of a lot more information. Expecting realistic stages of grief, and well, everything emotional is only normal. Otherwise our characters become weird un-people, who look and act sort of human, but not quite.

We can't apply entirely real standards, just superficially believable ones. Otherwise every hero in every game would be a smoldering psychological wreck from being in combat so often.

 

[ForceStealer]

@Splintered: It's heavy, but I actually like the fact that back bumps out for your hands better than the new ones. And that the back isn't the same glossy stuff. And you can PM me about modding if you like.

But I would like to say for the record that I have not used said mod to steal PSP games. I use it for emulators so I can play other systems on my PSP, or not have to carry the discs of games I own around.

 

[Celes Chere]

aeris ever struck me as a virgin

I am so glad that you are not one of those people that get offended when others say this sort of thing about Aerith.

"OMG AERITH IS HOLY AND PURE YOU SICKO"