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Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
I don't understand where the spirit sexks arguement came from.
I think it just stems from some Cleriths using the argument that Aerith lives on inside of Cloud as proof of their romantic relationship.

There was also a topic at CxA saying that Aerith could solidify for Cloud at any time... which ... you know could lead to them having sex at any time :monster: They didn't actually SAY the sex thing but... yeah...
 
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Frostwave

lil' rice krispies
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Elizabeth, Selda
Laguna probably still loves Ellone,

Not Ellone. Raine.

Sorry, it's just the mental picture bugged me. :monster:

*bows out*

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I don't understand where the spirit sexks arguement came from.

I dunno the specifics, but didn't this one get rollin' after one of the "senior Cleriths"(calls himself that)wrote a fanfic and came up with a bunch of hypotheses that gained popularity with the fans?

Or something? :/
 
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Splintered

unsavory tart
Not Ellone. Raine.

Sorry, it's just the mental picture bugged me. :monster:

*bows out*
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Shows how much I truly cared about ffviii > _ >
 

Shadowfox

You look like you need a monkey
I don't understand where the spirit sexks arguement came from.

The spirit sex thing came from an extremely vocal Clerith who concocted a fanfic about Cloud having sex with Aerith's spirit in the flower fields, to which he then made up an elaborate 'Spirit Aerith Theory' based on bits he cherrypicked from AC, the Ultimanias, and his own wishful thinking in order to make it sound as though this fanfic was fact.

Well, either that, or he came up with the 'Spirit Aerith Theory' first, and then wrote the fanfic as some sort of thesis to explain how it works.
 

Vendel

Banned
The spirit sex thing came from an extremely vocal Clerith who concocted a fanfic about Cloud having sex with Aerith's spirit in the flower fields, to which he then made up an elaborate 'Spirit Aerith Theory' based on bits he cherrypicked from AC, the Ultimanias, and his own wishful thinking in order to make it sound as though this fanfic was fact.

Well, either that, or he came up with the 'Spirit Aerith Theory' first, and then wrote the fanfic as some sort of thesis to explain how it works.

To this day they still hold to the "Aerith lives inside Cloud....literally" And she can 'solidify' just for him.

Thus spirit smex is possible.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
The spirit sex thing came from an extremely vocal Clerith who concocted a fanfic about Cloud having sex with Aerith's spirit in the flower fields, to which he then made up an elaborate 'Spirit Aerith Theory' based on bits he cherrypicked from AC, the Ultimanias, and his own wishful thinking in order to make it sound as though this fanfic was fact.

Well, either that, or he came up with the 'Spirit Aerith Theory' first, and then wrote the fanfic as some sort of thesis to explain how it works.

To this day they still hold to the "Aerith lives inside Cloud....literally" And she can 'solidify' just for him.

Thus spirit smex is possible.
Holy shit.

I actually lol'd. Okay, I agree that this is ridiculous.

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I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
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Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
To this day they still hold to the "Aerith lives inside Cloud....literally" And she can 'solidify' just for him.

Thus spirit smex is possible.
Do they even realize how stupid that sounds?

The fact that they made asshoals of the characters is bad enough... do they have to make up inane (and quite disgusting) stuff like spirit!smex? It all screams desperate to me. This is a fanfic. If a fanfic theory makes canon, then what does all those other Cloti fics that pretty much hold much more believable and canon-related things?

In theory, Cloud and Tifa have rough sex in the kitchen before breakfast. I read it in a fanfic, and it coincides with my belief. I'm going to use it as Cloti proofz. :monster:



Children, spirit!smex is not cool. :monster:






Hey, I believe in Zack and Cloud's love beyond the grave, but I'm not about to make silly claims that Clack spirit!smex happens for real. :awesome:
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
Hey, I believe in Zack and Cloud's love beyond the grave, but I'm not about to make silly claims that Clack spirit!smex happens for real.
Oh I bet if someone wrote a fic about it you'd like it :awesome:

I didn't know there was a fic... ... why write a fic about THAT? I mean why not just make Aerith alive if you're going to write a CloudXAerith fic?

The same group of them also say that since Sephiroth can "solidify" it's proof that Aerith can too. I guess they sorta... you know... missed AC.

EDIT:
Hmm... does Cloud have to worry about Spirit Rape from Sephiroth I wonder :monster:
 
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I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
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Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
Oh I bet if someone wrote a fic about it you'd like it :awesome:

I'd probably the one who'll write that fic. :awesome:

Except I like those fics where Zack is alive better.

I didn't know there was a fic... ... why write a fic about THAT? I mean why not just make Aerith alive if you're going to write a CloudXAerith fic?

Desperation.

There are a lot of good fanfics where Aerith is alive. But they want them being able to have sex. Which is really, really weird. Because if they think Aerith is pure and innocent... then what's this spirit!smex about? What's so pure and innocent about it?

And they call the Clotis sex-starved. :awesome: Clotis don't even make fics of Tifa having sex with Cloud beyond the grave...

...oh wait. Tifa's alive. :wacky: They can have sex anytime they want.

The same group of them also say that since Sephiroth can "solidify" it's proof that Aerith can too. I guess they sorta... you know... missed AC.

EDIT:
Hmm... does Cloud have to worry about Spirit Rape from Sephiroth I wonder :monster:

Sephiroth has to use 3 silver-haired boys for some Cloud spirit!rape. :wackymonster: Kinky.



And I just imagined Marlene transforming into Aerith for this "solidify" thing to happen... :scared:
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
There are a lot of good fanfics where Aerith is alive. But they want them being able to have sex. Which is really, really weird. Because if they think Aerith is pure and innocent... then what's this spirit!smex about? What's so pure and innocent about it?
She's alive in Kingdom Hearts... why not use that?
But ... I dunno, I'm not the author. I mean I can understand maybe writing the fic but the whole solidify thing is just... ugh

And I just imagined Marlene transforming into Aerith for this "solidify" thing to happen...
 

I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
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Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
Ahahahahaha :awesome:







STFU, whoever got screencapped. >_>

Edit:

She's alive in Kingdom Hearts... why not use that?
But ... I dunno, I'm not the author. I mean I can understand maybe writing the fic but the whole solidify thing is just... ugh

It has been used. :awesome: Clerith is canon in KH... remember?

Cue "Cloud's Light" debate! :monster:


It's not the fanfic that bothers me. It's the theory. From the fanfic. >_>
 
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Dashell

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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
@ the second one:

Doesn't that technically mean that any cetra can have sex with any member of soldier at any time?

And didn't they all ready say her consciousness lives inside of Cloud? Did we need that theory if you can even call it that?

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I don't even get what the second one is saying. Was someone questioning someone saying that Aerith's consciousness lives inside Cloud? I should stop trying to make sense of that right now...
 

Isabella

Your Mom
What sane, stable individual can hear "Aerith lives on in Cloud" and come up with some convoluted bullshit about Mako and Lifestream and Cetras, oh my? IT'S NOT LITERAL YOU MORONS

And going back to Lion King again (because who didn't love Lion King) ... didn't the monkey whose name I forget tell Simba that Mufasa lives in him? There's no Mako in that universe, so now what? Oh my god I need to develop a convoluted theory to explain that line! :awesome:
 
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I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
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Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
@2nd one from Vendel

Didn't we discuss that here before? :awesome:

Doesn't that technically mean that any cetra can have sex with any member of soldier at any time?

Cloud likes his spirit!orgy with the Cetra. :monster:
 

Ryushikaze

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Tim, Ryu
I don't understand where the spirit sexks arguement came from. Loving someone even after death is not a new concept in literature or games. Ashe loved Rassler, Vincent loved Lucrecia (though her situation is more complex than just simple dying), Laguna probably still loves Ellone, and Yuna loved Tidus (ignoring X-2 because ugh). It's just a matter of opinion on whether or not Cloud falls into this category or not. I never thought the arguement was that he would somehow find her dead body for some hot necrophilia action.

When I make comments about romance post mortem, I do mean they think there's a relationship going on.

All of the first part of the game. Cloud had a special relationship with her different from the rest . It's the same way with Zack, both Cloud and Aerith cherished him. That doesn't mean that because they both cherish him, they are both either in love with him or not.

How is is relationship with her different from anyone else's with her- Tifa's, for example- aside from the bodyguard thing and her having affection for him? What SHOWS the romance?

Aerith was clearly a romantic interest in the game, she died a romantic interest.p

Aerith as a romantic interest DIED when she did. That anyone insists otherwise is rather absurd. In all the cases save 10-2, no one suggests there is a ROMANCE potential any longer, and even in 10-2, Yuna only started back up once she got shown a sphere with what appeared to be Tidus in it.
And moreoever, with 10-2, we were explicitly shown her feelings for him.

Cloud somehow turned into Squall after the ending of the game and we have little insight to his true inner thoughts, so where he stands is up to debate.

No, we have PLENTY of fucking insight to his inner thoughts. We are told plenty of times what Cloud thinks and feels, like that Tifa is an important woman to him, that he's happy with her and the kids, and the happier he becomes with them, the more the guilt of his past failures eats at him and the more he worries for his family, etc.
NOTHING. NOT A GOD DAMN THING about wanting to pursue a romance with a dead woman. This is the sort of thing you must be VERY explicit about, certain people's insistence to the contrary notwithstanding.

As a CloudTifa, I honestly think he moved on. Some people think he didn't. That's fine too.

There was nothing to move on FROM. At no point does Cloud indicate he wants to pursue Aerith. He is oblivious of her intent the entire time, and mere weeks later, he's spending the night with Tifa and asking her to be by his side as he begins his new life.

I think it just stems from some Cleriths using the argument that Aerith lives on inside of Cloud as proof of their romantic relationship.

AerithX AVALANCHE, whoo!
They always forget the whole 'hold her within their hearts' bit. And that their lovely quote is general, not specific. The dead live on in the consciousness of the living.

There was also a topic at CxA saying that Aerith could solidify for Cloud at any time... which ... you know could lead to them having sex at any time :monster: They didn't actually SAY the sex thing but... yeah...

Yeah, they meant sex. I like how they treated that as fact despite zilch zero and nada to back it up.
 

I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
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Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
Aerith as a romantic interest DIED when she did. That anyone insists otherwise is rather absurd. In all the cases save 10-2, no one suggests there is a ROMANCE potential any longer, and even in 10-2, Yuna only started back up once she got shown a sphere with what appeared to be Tidus in it.
And moreoever, with 10-2, we were explicitly shown her feelings for him.

But Tidus wasn't even really dead to begin with. :monster:

Aerith... well... :awesome:

It was for the new person.

What new person? :huh:
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
What sane, stable individual can hear "Aerith lives on in Cloud" and come up with some convoluted bullshit about Mako and Lifestream and Cetras, oh my? IT'S NOT LITERAL YOU MORONS

And going back to Lion King again (because who didn't love Lion King) ... didn't the monkey whose name I forget tell Simba that Mufasa lives in him? There's no Mako in that universe, so now what? Oh my god I need to develop a convoluted theory to explain that line! :awesome:

Lion King is the perfect analogue to Cloud's issues, really. Just substitute Tifa for Nala, Cloud for Simba, and Aerith for Mufasa, and 'oila!

Also, the ape is Rafiki, and he can do double duty as Aerith and Vincent at different times.
 
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