And can we stop fucking using that mangled translation of "dimly in love", please? Jesus, that doesn't make sense. The proper translation is "secret crush" or a "hidden love."
"Dim love" sounds obtuse and like some type of really shitty engrish or overly literal translation.
It is an over literal yet not at the same time. It's taking 'dim' as literally dim, instead of the 'ill or obliquely expressed' one might get from the same kanji's use in the verb 'to insinuate'
No because it didn't happen. My friend was just freaking out for no reason and she got a little confused. She's not Clerith at all, in fact she doesn't care, she's just a little upset about some things
Fair enough. Just so long as she's not stating it as fact.
The Clerith answer is that it doesn't say what feelings they shared. They might have decided to be friends and live together. Friends living together isn't completely ridiculous (or redonkulous if you watch Bolt). Barret and Tifa were living together and raising Marlene together at the beginning of FFVII and they weren't a couple.
Yes, but there was also Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie there, for another thing, and Tifa didn't think of herself as Marlene's mom, and I doubt the other three thought themselves her parents then either.
... I'm actually surprised I posted that without getting into any sort of trouble.
Quexi, you got some 'splaining a do!...
I agree. I think Cloud was saying his inner thoughts and Tifa was merely listening. Tifa was the highlight to Cloud's childhood and seeing how he singled her out in CC while talking to Sephy, she was about the only one he cared about, other than his mother, in that town.
But Cloud wasn't just saying his thoughts, he was saying them To Tifa, and she was made a part of events when the entire sequence could have been done entirely reflexively.
I'd agree. I thought Cloud was in love with Tifa when they were children and I also think he stalked her. That's cute, but rather creepy too. Well, Tifa liked it so I guess it's fine. But hey what if Tifa found out Cloud stalked her when she was little? I highly doubt she would show up for the promise.
You can't hotlink files from your computer, KTR.
Anyways, I don't think what he did is stalking. Perhaps borderline at points, but he sounds more like the kid who acts tough to get the girl's attention than the creepy mouthbreather kid. Well, cept the panties bit...
Lolz, but she still was incredible gorgeous and popular which could help. Cloud was the loserboy of the town for one, and second who wouldn't want Tifa?
Actually, it was pre-9yr old Cloud with the crush. He'd been looking up at her window long before that.
I've heard it translated as both, and I heard "dim love" first so it is only my instinct to use it first. I don't think it makes too much of a difference between any of the translations really, all it says is Cloud loved Tifa as children.
It's some of the associated tomfoolery that goes along with the dim translation that irritates folks.
Perfect answer. Why have one when you can have both? :3
But he can't. Death and such. But nothing's stopping them from bringing Yuffie in. Or Shalua. Or Sierra.
I think neither or both are canon. It's simple as Cloud is single or loves both
in my opinion. There is quotes favoring Aerith such as the
"undying feelings" or
"etched in his heart forever" and then for Tifa there is
"...She and Cloud came to realize their feelings for each other ..." and things like
"is a very important women to Cloud." I think both have perks and downfalls so I can't pick one because of the evidence favoring both sides. And both got koibitos so that just crosses the other one out imo. I know, I know it seems i'm only Clerith here, but no Cloti has many quite convincing arguements too along with the Clerith ones.
IIRC, The 'etched in his heart' isn't couple with forever (and that's be redundant anyways), and the there's also an 'etched in his heart' for Tifa too (specifically re: the promise), and yes, both got koibitos, but one is one to X and Z sees Cloud as one, so pfeh.
How dense are you Ryu?
In CoL it was obviously Ilfana speaking and Tifa's koibito was in reference to Aerith. Puhleaze.. AerTi is obvious canon.
Well of course Aerti is canon. What do you think they were doing together those long, cold nights those two weeks?
Okay, okay seriously though since Aerith's isn't confimed as actual mutual feelings it loses some points, but since Tifa's didn't mention Cloud it could knock out mutuality from him too, imo.
Actually her's technically would knock her mutuality out since she has the role of such rather than thinking of someone as such, but again, pfeh.
Well it is assumined to be love, well imo to start "feelings" is usually a more romantic term, but also the fact the strongest feeling Tifa showed throughout the game was her love for Cloud, so feelings in Tifa's case would be in fact love. But the part of them living together does not apply romance imo, They are best friends, and living together would be something best friends do, do.
That's a weak argument, personally, and that is coming from someone who has had co-ed living arrangements before with someone I was not interested in. This scenario is not like 'cohabitating friends' in the slightest, especially with the addition of two kids for them and only them to raise, including one that is repeatedly hammered home as theirs.
I still want someone to explain how Cloud and Tifa can realize their feelings ~of friendship~ at the end of the story. What did they consider each other before that point?
Meatbags.
I'm sorry. Cloud and Tifa, after all they've been through together, suddenly looking at each other and going, "OMG! We're like, friends!" That's just so ...
comical.
It's more than that. It's slapstick.
"... all it's missing is a