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Isabella

Your Mom
KTR said:
The funny part is many of the people who like these/make them say "I love Cloti when they are a brother/sister, mother/son, friendship (fill in the blank with anything but a romantic association________) relationship" but...
If they like C/T as friends, why would they enjoy Cloud treating her badly? This is something I've never understood. You could never enjoy him being a dick unless you absolutely hated Tifa, no matter how much you proclaim to like her.
 

Celes Chere

Banned
AKA
Noctis
Exactly. It's just like saying,
"I really admire Tifa, but she's always nagging Cloud and was a total spoiled brat and bitch in the past."
 

Dashell

SMILE!
AKA
Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
You could never enjoy him being a dick unless you absolutely hated Tifa, no matter how much you proclaim to like her.
I am gonna have to counter this argument because there are people, like me, with a sick mind and a BDSM fetish... that's clearly not the people we're speaking of though ;)
 

Isabella

Your Mom
It extends to interpretation, too. For example (paraphrased): "Cloud left because she kept trying to change him and he got tired of her nagging and didn't want to be around her. Now would he do that if he loved her?"

My question is: Would he do that if she were a dear friend or a sister figure? No. He wouldn't do that if he loved her, whether it's romantic love or not. So he either hates her (how likely is that?), OR, your interpretation of why he left is wrong.
 

Ⓐaron

Factiō Rēpūblicāna dēlenda est.
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The Man, V
It's more important to them that they interpret the story in a way that confirms their pairing than that they interpret the story in a way that makes logical and psychological sense.
 

Vendel

Banned
Well shit. This thread exploded while I was at work.

The scan does clear up a few things. Not the least of which is the whole "Cloud will be with Tifa" is just talking about location bullshit they pulled from the Reunion Files (it is the RF right?)

Tifa and Marlene, and Denzel asking for Cloud to heal his Geostigma-- his family were waiting. Engulfed in celebration, he realises where he is meant to live.

Also to the whole "Aerith and Zack don't leave together" BS

And when he turns around--- "she" is starting to leave.Together with the friend who had given Cloud his life. Cloud no longer has to suffer in loneliness...And so they too go back to where they belong.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
AKA
Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
fboy.gif

there ya go.
 

OneWingedDemon

NOT AMUSED
If anybody ever uses a manly squee, the admins should take steps to castrate them.

a few days later we were watching a tv show and saw the same lighthouse being investigated for ghosts on some kid's ghost hunting show. Good times.
Hahaha. They prolly heard you guys and thought you were the ghosts.

If they like C/T as friends, why would they enjoy Cloud treating her badly?
Because it makes them feel special if the guy treats everyone like crap except the holy goddess. It goes with the whole "she melted his heart" thing they're enamored with.
Oh, look at how perfect I am. The power of my love pierced through his cloud of darkness.
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
Someone should make a Cloud/Pizza smiley. Since I love foods and and in a food LTD myself.... :monster:
 
your interpretation of why he left is wrong.

Even then interpretation can be one of two things. Supported by canon, or wrong. If we were never told why Cloud left and nothing was said in the story to explain it to the audience, then all interpretations are just that, interpretation, even if it's a supported interpretation by a large portion of the fandom.

However, we are told, and why the Clerii think that their interpretation with quotes and scans from the movie and big long essays mean anything when there's a couple sentences right in an ultimania explaining it in simple terms is beyond me.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
Can't be. They never get delivered, and if they did, they'd have extra toppings.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
AKA
Smooth Criminal
I think we're gonna have to close this thread soon and make a new LT Debate thread. I think this one has reached its limit and any hope of having a pure LTD here has kinda died.

Unless someone has a legitimate reason that can move my cold heart, I'm gonna close it, archive this lulz, and we'll start fresh.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
Come on Mako, pizza is a crucial facet to where Cloud's affections lie. Pizza represents accessibility and freethinking. These are akin to Aeris and him delivering pizza is akin to spreading the altruism of Aeris around the world.

Of course, Tifa wears leather, meaning pizza probably wouldn't stain so she'd be the better one to eat it with.

But if Cloud doesn't like pizza, I think it all stems from a moment he shared a long time ago with an old flame friend.
If it weren't for that &$*(#$ pizza, we could see the stars.
 
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Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
On an unrelated note, your avatar is sex Isabella. I always found Malificent to be sexy as hell. :monster:
 

Raquelborn

"I slice your ass in 4."
AKA
Raq, Raquel.
If we keep going we might get into some of those record books. Like the Guinness Book of World Records. We're already nearly got 11,000 posts.

Mmmm?
 
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