There's absolutely no more romantic fucking symbolism in Dissidia's ending for Cloud than there is for fuckdamn Cecil.
STOP FUCKING BRINGING IT UP.
Secondly, Zack's grave and the flowers is more than just flowers and his grave. it's paired symbolism with the sword placed in the church. They have shared and reciprocated imagery.
Okay first off, would you please stop swearing and all capsing at me? It's stuff I see you do with the "pinkers" and other people you dislike all the time and it's honestly starting to make me uncomfortable. I can't tell if you're being serious or not. I'm assuming you're not, but if you are being serious, don't be, it's just a stupid disagreement. It's nothing to be that angry about.
As for Dissidia, obviously you feel the argument is invalid. But many times I've seen other people bring up arguments I feel are invalid, but they are welcome to bring them up. Isn't that what debating is all about? So, no disrespect meant here, but I think I should be entitled to bring up Dissida if I feel it's relevant... which really, it isn't much here. At least not in what I was trying to prove. so maybe it was kinda stupid that I brought it up.
I brought it up because it ALSO has flowers in it, and flowers that Cloud walks though that look very much like Aerith's flowers. Vendel asked what the symbolism means... now I can't speak about what flowers mean in Japan and what not but if there is some kind of Japanese symbolism attached to those flowers in Japan that we see in Aerith's church, that symbolism should be attached to Dissidia as well. As for if the flowers mean some kind of Zerith thing, well yeah sure. It's Aerith and Zack together... as for "That's where they belong." Well... that's cause they're both dead
Third off, everything Joppylop said. Great posts man. I think you really got it down pat, especially the part about not quantifying love... I probably shouldn't have been trying to do that.
She loved Cloud, she loved Zack. That's pretty much all there is to it :mosnter:
The point that (I for one) am trying to make is that Aerith's affections for Cloud--although real--are based on a fallacy. PERIOD. She NEVER gets to know the real Cloud.
I disagree. There are too many quotes out there that say she as INITIALLY attracted to Cloud because of Zack, but that even when she realizes that he's not Zack 2.0 or whatever you wanna call him, she still loved him and her feelings for him grew.
Perhaps she was able to get to know him more in the lifestream by absorbing knowledge or something. I have no basis for this of course, but I consider it a possibility.
Incidentally, Quex, bar a few the quotes you used say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about Aerith loving Cloud for Cloud himself. And other quotes, including those by Aerith herself, say she was focused on the Zack in him. It makes her love no less there, it just makes it irrational. It also reinforces that she still loves Zack, hence, she loves the both of them.
She absolutely loves them both. I NEVER meant to imply otherwise. But read what I said above. They say she was initially attracted to the Zack in Cloud, but that her feelings for him grew when she realized he wasn't Zack... or something to that effect.
