The Official "How many parts?" Thread

[Makoeyes987]

Because three larger chunks cover more areas of the story and would take longer to complete. More work means more time. Smaller parts to develop mean less work, and less time to complete.

Longer wait times can create diminishing returns and soaring expectations. See Kingdom Hearts between 2 and 3. People may lose interest if left waiting too long and there's also the console life cycle that marches on. Honestly 2024 should be the year we get part 2; any longer than 3 years from each installment is a risk. One can hope the development time between each game shrinks the further it goes, but who knows.

 

[Smoothie King]

Because three larger chunks cover more areas of the story and would take longer to complete. More work means more time. Smaller parts to develop mean less work, and less time to complete.

Longer wait times can create diminishing returns and soaring expectations. See Kingdom Hearts between 2 and 3. People may lose interest if left waiting too long and there's also the console life cycle that marches on. Honestly 2024 should be the year we get part 2; any longer than 3 years from each installment is a risk. One can hope the development time between each game shrinks the further it goes, but who knows.

I understand what you mean, but logistically… wouldn’t more parts in shorter intervals take the same amount of time to complete as lesser parts in longer intervals?

 

[Makoeyes987]

Not the same amount of time in terms of getting product out on the shelves. They're talking about development time and the wait time. More work between each installment creates a longer game but a longer wait for said game as well.

And that allows less angsting and pressure on the development team since the longer the wait, the higher the expectation. I mean, 3 parts would be wonderful but that's a huge undertaking and I don't think people are ready for that long a wait LMAO

If they are to stick to the same design ethos and level of quality seen in Part 1, 3 parts would take another additional year, to me. So part 2 in 2025, at least. Easily 4 years then another 4 for the last part and any accompanying supplementary DLC/etc.

 

[LNK]

The developers themselves said it's unlikely to be a trilogy.

Mako, do you have a link to that? I've always been in the trilogy camp, but that's because I read an article prior to part 1s release, that alluded to it being a trilogy.

Never mind. I read your other comment. With that said, I'm not interpreting that is it won't be a trilogy, but that it was speculation it would be.

 

[Eerie]

I also remember they said it would be a long time before we see Wutai, and that was to me what made me definitely think it'd be a 4 parts game.

I really think if we base what we know from both the OG and part 1 of Remake, part 2 will be Nibelheim to Nibelheim (I say this as someone whop first thought we'd get 3 parts, I can still see my vote lol). The fun part (=Wall Market in part 1) would be Costa del Sol (they will NOT pass on bikinis), the secret "date" would be at Cosmo Canyon, Gold Saucer will be entirely remodeled (it will be darker), and Nibelheim will be the end with a new Sephiroth boss in the reactor. We will get Yuffie, Cait Sith and Vincent alongside, Vincent would probably be half playable like Red XIII was in part 1.

Part 3 we'll get from Rocket Town to the Forgotten City OR Northern Crater, going to Wutai after Rocket Town (it's nearby). Wutai will probably be completely remodeled too (they hinted at this already), and I do wonder how they'll make us travel this time around because the party will be with us and the Bronco is well... tiny. So I'm quite curious about how they'll come around that. Gold Saucer will be much more fun this time around since it'll be the OG date recreated of course (though we might have to disguise in Wutai outfit along the way in Wutai, for infiltration purposes). I still feel Northern Crater is the perfect place to stop, because that's the point where we lose the false Cloud for good.

And the last part would start in Junon with Tifa, then the rest. With, as Mako said, probably a new ending to tie everything together, an explanation of what happened with Zack, etc, etc.

 

[Tetsujin]

I really think if we base what we know from both the OG and part 1 of Remake, part 2 will be Nibelheim to Nibelheim (I say this as someone whop first thought we'd get 3 parts, I can still see my vote lol).

You can always change votes in this poll

 

[Theozilla]

I'm quoting the FFVII Remake Ultimania.



Given Nomura and Kitase's words, it looks like they're strongly leaning in not taking the longest amount of time to get each installment released, so doing it in three "large chunks" or parts is unlikely. They realize that would be a massive undertaking and would take a long time.

I agree that the interview definitely gives pause to automatically assuming it will be a trilogy, but their statements also didn’t necessarily rule out a trilogy happening still.
I do think Part 2 likely coming out in 2024 does make a trilogy more likely now though. As I assume SE would want the remaining Remake installments to be released before the PS6 is released. Even if the PS5’s generation lifetime lasts a little longer than the PS4’s (let’s say 8 years instead of 7 years), that only gives until 2028 for the final installment to come out. And if 2024 is when part 2 comes out and it’s four parts total, that leaves only 4 years for another two installments to be made and released. And I just don’t see SE letting the final part (if it’s four total) be exclusive to the PS6.

Basically with a trilogy I would expect the release years to be this:
2024: Part 2
2028: Part 3/final part

But even with four parts total, I can’t see the gaps getting less than three years between each one, so I end up expecting a release year like this:
2024: Part 2
2027: Part 3
2030: Part 4/final part

And the latest I expect the PS6 to come out, would be 2029. And thus I just don’t see SE releasing the Remake over the course of three different Sony console generations. Which is why I think three parts is more likely again now.

Also while I think Spring 2024 is the earliest we may see part 2, I actually think Part 2 coming out in the latter half of 2024 is more likely since FFXIV’s 7.0 expansion will likely be coming out in the first half of 2024, and I doubt SE will want that expansion to overlap too much with the Remake Part 2’s release window.

(though if I am underestimating the amount of time FFXIV’s 7.0 expansion will need maybe it will come out in the latter half of 2024 instead, keeping Part 2 of the Remake in the first half of 2024).

 

[OWA-2]

Don't FFXIV's expansions come out every 2 years? The last one came last year, so the next one should come next year.

 

[Golden Ear]

The last one took about 2 years 5 months or so, maybe give it some extra time because of covid.

Endwalker 6.0 Dec 2021' to maybe ??? 7.0 Feb-May 2024 or so if I had to take a guess.

 

[Makoeyes987]

But even with four parts total, I can’t see the gaps getting less than three years between each one, so I end up expecting a release year like this:
2024: Part 2
2027: Part 3
2030: Part 4/final part

The best case scenario that sort of matches up with previous game development experiences is that, with more of the world being developed and "created", the less development time there will be needed, since you'll be mostly recycling assets versus developing locations/settings from scratch.

Upon completing Part 3, the final stretch of development should hopefully come faster, since most of the world of FFVII and it's assets have now been created.

So 2024 would be Part 2. 2027 would be part 3, but then the final part could come out in 2029 and with that, the FFVII Remake project would have a time span of 2021 to 2029.

An 8 year PS5 project. A game series that spans the entire lifespan of the console.

Not that bad for 4 games, and it would able to stay on one console.

Three games could be possible but I would definitely see it going something along the likes of 2025 for Part 2, 2029 for Part 3.

Same time frame, but that's a gap of 4 years between part 1 and 2, and then a gap of 4 years for Part 3.

4 years between games is a helluva long time. I'd rather wait less, tbh.

 

[Theozilla]

The last one took about 2 years 5 months or so, maybe give it some extra time because of covid.

Endwalker 6.0 Dec 2021' to maybe ??? 7.0 Feb-May 2024 or so if I had to take a guess.

The gap between 6.0 and 7.0 might also be longer than previous expansions since the length of time between the patches (i.e. 6.1 to 6.2 to 6.3 etc.) is being increased from 3.5 months to 4 months to maintain game quality and help make sure the devs aren't being overworked (plus breaks of a couple of weeks during summer and winter holidays), so even without Covid the standard length between expansions may be closer to 2.5 years than 2 years from now on. Whether it is the first half or second half of the calendar year, 7.0 is likely coming out in 2024, not 2023.

The best case scenario that sort of matches up with previous game development experiences is that, with more of the world being developed and "created", the less development time there will be needed, since you'll be mostly recycling assets versus developing locations/settings from scratch.

Upon completing Part 3, the final stretch of development should hopefully come faster, since most of the world of FFVII and it's assets have now been created.

So 2024 would be Part 2. 2027 would be part 3, but then the final part could come out in 2029 and with that, the FFVII Remake project would have a time span of 2021 to 2029.

An 8 year PS5 project. A game series that spans the entire lifespan of the console.

Not that bad for 4 games, and it would able to stay on one console.

Three games could be possible but I would definitely see it going something along the likes of 2025 for Part 2, 2029 for Part 3.

Same time frame, but that's a gap of 4 years between part 1 and 2, and then a gap of 4 years for Part 3.

4 years between games is a helluva long time. I'd rather wait less, tbh.

Eh, I still don't know if about 2 years between a part 3 and part 4/final part is feasible though, even with a reduction in development time due to be able to "recycle" more.

And did you mean to say 9 years? Because the PS5 came out in November of 2020, not 2021. And 2029 would mean a 9 year lifespan between the PS5 and PS6.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I was referring to FFVII-R part 1 coming out in 2021. But yeah, same difference.

 

[Theozilla]

I was referring to FFVII-R part 1 coming out in 2021. But yeah, same difference.

But the FFVII Remake came out in 2020 too?

 

[Makoeyes987]

The PS5 version of Part 1 came out in 2021. That was the definitive end of Part 1 where we have nothing left to wait on but the next part.

 

[Theozilla]

The PS5 version of Part 1 came out in 2021. That was the definitive end of Part 1 where we have nothing left to wait on but the next part.

Oh okay. Regardless either way that’s a 9 year gap between the release of the PS5 and the PS6.
And while I don’t think a 9 gap is impossible (at least as as likely, if not slightly more likely, as the PS6 coming out in 2027), I do think 8 years is more likely (and thus the PS6 is likely coming out in 2028).

 

[Golden Ear]

If 7R2 is still over 2 years away from release I think it's possible that the mocap photo which people are thinking could be Cid is actually work for part 2. If 7R2 doesn't release until around 2nd half of 2024 and Part 3 doesn't come out till 2028 or so then that seems a bit too early for mocap work for a future game when the current one you're working on is still over 2 years out.

 

[Smoothie King]

If 7R2 is still over 2 years away from release I think it's possible that the mocap photo which people are thinking could be Cid is actually work for part 2. If 7R2 doesn't release until around 2nd half of 2024 and Part 3 doesn't come out till 2028 or so then that seems a bit too early for mocap work for a future game when the current one you're working on is still over 2 years out.

If Cid isn’t in Part II… I mean. Come on.

 

[Theozilla]

Sonon’s existence in the Yuffie DLC definitely makes me think that Cid being in Part 2 is more likely than not. And that makes it more likely Part 2 is at least going past Rocket Town.

 

[Lulcielid]

Trillogy confirmed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1537560382646018048

 

[Tetsujin]

Well I was wrong

Wonder how far this one's gonna go then, gotta be at least until the Forgotten Capital then

 

[Theozilla]

So I guess this thread is now tentatively obsolete (presuming SE doesn't backtrack/make a last minute decision).

Or we can change it to a "where will FFVII Rebirth adapt up to/end at?" (presuming it is following the general outline of the OG story)

Anyways the minimum has to the Temple of the Ancients at the very least, with the other potential stopping points being Aerith's death/Forgotten Capital and/or the Weapons Awakening/The Black Materia being activated

 

[Wol]

Last one has to be called Final Fantasy VII Synthesis, but they'll probably still play with the "Re" of remake, so... Reunion is being used for CC... Revelation? Kek

 

[Leafonthebreeze]

My partner is sat next to me just yelling REMAKE: REBIRTH: REMASTER

 

[Theozilla]

Last one has to be called Final Fantasy VII Synthesis, but they'll probably still play with the "Re" of remake, so... Reunion is being used for CC... Revelation? Kek

Resynthesis could work then

 

[FFShinra]

I admit defeat, but it also means these parts are gonna be either very huge or a LOT is getting cut.