The Official "How many parts?" Thread

[The Twilight Mexican]

Even if they had meant no more DLC ever, I would buy zero stock in such a prediction given the often tumultuous and too unpredictable world of game development.

 

[Sephiroth Crescent]

Even if they had meant no more DLC ever, I would buy zero stock in such a prediction given the often tumultuous and too unpredictable world of game development.

Anyway, it's SE we're talking here, so... well, whatever will be... will be.

 

[Golden Ear]

And yeah, with them announcing that Wutai was very far away (so not in next game), I think it's probably AT LEAST a 4 parts game. And I can't really see it being a 5 parts or more, narratively it wouldn't really make sense anymore (plus I'm sure the devs want to end Remake before they're 70 haha... and us 60).

UNLESS the reason Wutai won't. be included in part 2 isn't because we only get to Nibelheim but because we're going quite a bit further. Saving Wutai for Part 3 so we can get more of the complete narrative of looking for Sephiroth is what I'm guessing.

 

[Eerie]

??? How does that work exactly, since we spent the whole game looking for Sephiroth??? In fact Wutai feels disconnected because it's a part where we don't hear about Sephiroth, we're there for Yuffie mainly.

 

[Golden Ear]

Basically I think we'll get up to the reunion which is where we physically get to Sephiroth. I mean saving wutai for Part 3 so in part 2 we get a climatic ending for part 2 (being reunion). I didn't word that quite right.

 

[Eerie]

Can you imagine Aerith not being there for Yuffie's background though? Because I sure can't. Narratively it doesn't make any sense to have Wutai after the Reunion - it happens in Northern Crater and shit goes on after this. Yuffie cries when Aerith dies - I just don't see it, nope, sorry.

 

[Ite]

Can you imagine Aerith not being there for Yuffie's background though? Because I sure can't. Narratively it doesn't make any sense to have Wutai after the Reunion - it happens in Northern Crater and shit goes on after this. Yuffie cries when Aerith dies - I just don't see it, nope, sorry.

Can’t you do the Wutai side quest on Disc 2 or 3 though?

 

[Eerie]

Sure you can. I don't think that's the problem. Remake is going to have to chose where to put it. My bet is that it'll be before Aerith's death because it'll be a big bonding time for Yuffie and the party, so I can't imagine Aerith not being there.

 

[kathy202]

Personally, I'd like to see more Aerith-Turks interaction, so it'd be nice to have her around if they're doing that whole Wutai thing as it was.

 

[Golden Ear]

Can you imagine Aerith not being there for Yuffie's background though? Because I sure can't. Narratively it doesn't make any sense to have Wutai after the Reunion - it happens in Northern Crater and shit goes on after this. Yuffie cries when Aerith dies - I just don't see it, nope, sorry.

I really don't think we necessarily need Aerith to visit Wutai and see her meet Godo or anything of that sort for her to develop a strong relationship with Yuffie if Part 2 goes all the way through to the Reunion with Wutai being reserved for later. I think some of Yuffie's backstory with Wutai will be depicted along that way even we we don't see Wutai in earnest.

I think if we were to do a great expansion of Wutai that could potentially tie together Wutai/Shinra conflict with why Godo is in prison along with maybe Don Corneo/Leslie and Turks stuff, it would be better to fit it in later. Even if Meteor is in the sky Wutai could be re-written to have a darker vibe and be tied in to all the catastrophe that is happening at this point.

I can picture a scenario where one of the Weapon Monsters is attacking Wutai and with all the commotion that's going on we are able to break into the prison to rescue Godo.

To me I see Wutai as a point of great expansion and even it being Re-written to a degree (Godo on prison is all-ready very different). I think it makes sense to experience all of that after the Reunion and have Part 2's narrative focused on getting to that Reunion even if it means saving some things/locations for later.

Another example of what they could do is move Mount Corel with the Reactor and abandoned Railroad to Part 3 as well. We really only take advantage of that location afterwards when we are searching for the Huge Materia so they don't need to fully develop and integrate that into part 2. Same with Fort Condor.

For example: After we get to Costa De Sol we can find a ride or a new faster way of getting to the Gold Saucer instead of going through that trek through the Mt. Corel. I think Costa De Sol + Gold Saucer would be the fun vacation time for the Party and be tied together. Barret's backstory can still be told don't get me wrong, I just think they might alter things.

Remember we defeated fate itself, the developers are probably going to leverage this so they can make a few changes. I don't think this is too drastic either to the overall plot/narrative, more so just for game design reasons.

 

[OWA-2]

I really don't think we necessarily need Aerith to visit Wutai and see her meet Godo or anything of that sort for her to develop a strong relationship with Yuffie if Part 2 goes all the way through to the Reunion with Wutai being reserved for later. I think some of Yuffie's backstory with Wutai will be depicted along that way even we we don't see Wutai in earnest.

I think if we were to do a great expansion of Wutai that could potentially tie together Wutai/Shinra conflict with why Godo is in prison along with maybe Don Corneo/Leslie and Turks stuff, it would be better to fit it in later. Even if Meteor is in the sky Wutai could be re-written to have a darker vibe and be tied in to all the catastrophe that is happening at this point.

I can picture a scenario where one of the Weapon Monsters is attacking Wutai and with all the commotion that's going on we are able to break into the prison to rescue Godo.

To me I see Wutai as a point of great expansion and even it being Re-written to a degree (Godo on prison is all-ready very different). I think it makes sense to experience all of that after the Reunion and have Part 2's narrative focused on getting to that Reunion even if it means saving some things/locations for later.

Another example of what they could do is move Mount Corel with the Reactor and abandoned Railroad to Part 3 as well. We really only take advantage of that location afterwards when we are searching for the Huge Materia so they don't need to fully develop and integrate that into part 2. Same with Fort Condor.

For example: After we get to Costa De Sol we can find a ride or a new faster way of getting to the Gold Saucer instead of going through that trek through the Mt. Corel. I think Costa De Sol + Gold Saucer would be the fun vacation time for the Party and be tied together. Barret's backstory can still be told don't get me wrong, I just think they might alter things.

Remember we defeated fate itself, the developers are probably going to leverage this so they can make a few changes. I don't think this is too drastic either to the overall plot/narrative, more so just for game design reasons.

Yeah, if they are only making 3 parts, I can see them doing that.

 

[Theozilla]

Alright since FFXVI is currently scheduled for a summer 2023 release window, and based on how SE likes to space out its major title releases, I am guessing Spring 2024 will likely be the earliest we will see FFVII Remake Part 2?

This does make me more inclined to think the total number of installments will be three parts instead of 4 or more now (unless the subsequent parts will rely far more heavily on Part 2’s engine and resources than Part 2 will on the first installment).

Guessing the eventually PS6 will then release all the installments in a Complete FFVII Remake collection port/remaster.

 

[Smoothie King]

Alright since FFXVI is currently scheduled for a summer 2023 release window, and based on how SE likes to space out its major title releases, I am guessing Spring 2024 will likely be the earliest we will see FFVII Remake Part 2?

This does make me more inclined to think the total number of installments will be three parts instead of 4 or more now (unless the subsequent parts will rely far more heavily on Part 2’s engine and resources than Part 2 will on the first installment).

Guessing the eventually PS6 will then release all the installments in a Complete FFVII Remake collection port/remaster.

I’m not going to lie, that Summer 2023 hit me like a gut punch. Given this timeline, if Part 2 doesn’t take us at least through disk 1 I will be very, very disappointed. That was much more disheartening than I was expecting.

 

[Theozilla]

Well if Sonon in the Yuffie DLC was basically practice for devs to make Cid's playable character aspects, I suppose we can reasonably expect him to appear in Part 2, so the game would have a decent amount of content after Rocket Town to justify Cid's inclusion (since he's the last playable character to join). So probably at least to the Temple of the Ancients I guess.

 

[Eerie]

I seriously hope so - I thought XVI would be closer to release indeed! Note that I’m going to wait for the release of the PS5 Pro to have a less bulky console ?
I’ll definitely play XVI tho!

 

[OWA-2]

Well if Sonon in the Yuffie DLC was basically practice for devs to make Cid's playable character aspects, I suppose we can reasonably expect him to appear in Part 2, so the game would have a decent amount of content after Rocket Town to justify Cid's inclusion (since he's the last playable character to join). So probably at least to the Temple of the Ancients I guess.

Unless they change the order of events and locations.

But yeah, with the game coming only in 2024(godamnit!), I can see the story being only 3 parts.

Hopefully they at least show us something this year, because of the anniversary.

 

[Tetsujin]

nice

 

[Golden Ear]

For those who lean towards 4 parts, are you beginning to warm up to the idea of 3 part with seeing XVI releasing as late as it is?

I ask this because it seems very unlikely now that 7R2 will release in 2023 making the following year much more likely. Seeing how long the instalments may be taking are re-considering how they may be developing?

I was always on board for 3 but I remember last December when we found out XVI 's next reveal was delayed to spring cemented it for me. Even with Forspoken's original release date I could see that XVI was most likely a 2023 game and 7R2 likely 2024. SE most likely want these games in their own fiscal years imo. Waiting 4 - 4.5 years for part 2 makes me really hope they make a substantial game that gets fairly far in the story and Nibelheim just seems to cut it a bit short considering. I think it's unlikely that any parts afterword can be done in just 2 years and I would hope they plan to wrap it up before moving on to the PS6 generation. Thoughts?

 

[Makoeyes987]

Unless I see something that shows Part 2 taking place over huge swaths of the story, I don't see anything changing my mind. Just because it'd suck for it to take long doesn't mean it won't

The developers themselves said it's unlikely to be a trilogy. As awesome as it'd be if it were, they shot that idea down themselves. Unless they changed their mind, I don't see the point hoping for the unlikely.

 

[Tetsujin]

I used to say I expect this game '23 earliest but that would've always been an assumption of an incredibly fast turnaround for a game of this scope. 2024 was always more likely, come to think of it. With Covid and everything probably even 2025. Doesn't really change anything for me especially because the idea for me is that 4 parts means they can push these out a little faster. I don't see them covering the rest of disc 1 unless they either cut things or take significantly longer to make the game than part 1.

That being said, part of me is starting to dread they might reshuffle the story significantly to shorten and cut stuff to make everything fit into three games which would be ironic since the idea of doing multiple games to begin with was so they didn't have to give us a digest of the story

 

[Makoeyes987]

I think the fear of the developers cutting or reshuffling the story to rush things is the new version of the fear of them cutting out the Wall Market dress sequence from Part 1.

I think it's clear they're in this for the long haul and going all out as they can. They know what's important.

 

[Smoothie King]

Unless I see something that shows Part 2 taking place over huge swaths of the story, I don't see anything changing my mind. Just because it'd suck for it to take long doesn't mean it won't

The developers themselves said it's unlikely to be a trilogy. As awesome as it'd be if it were, they shot that idea down themselves. Unless they changed their mind, I don't see the point hoping for the unlikely.

What did I miss? When did the developers say it was unlikely that this would be a trilogy?

 

[Golden Ear]

There's been some translations of what Kitase said around the time of Part 1's release. Something along the lines of (totalling paraphrasing off memory) "There's been talk of it being a trilogy but that's just speculation".

Keep in mind different interpretations of translation can make us read what is being said quite differently.

To me it just seems Kitase is acknowledging what was a popular speculation at the time but not saying anything one way or the other.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I'm quoting the FFVII Remake Ultimania.

There has been talk that the story will be in three parts…

Kitase: We have not said anything concrete about how many installments this will be, so people are probably just speculating with no proof.

—The fans would like to know when the next installment will be released.

Nomura: It depends on how many installments we decide to make. If we divide the story into large chunks, then it will take a much longer time to develop. However, if we divide the story into smaller parts, then it might be possible to release them in a shorter amount of time.

Kitase: On that note, if we are to maintain the same quality and volume as the first installment, then it is unrealistic to say that we can churn out the next one in just one year.

Nomura: Personally, I would like to release them as soon as possible so we can take a breather. I’m sure the fans would also want the next installment to come quickly too (laughs).

Given Nomura and Kitase's words, it looks like they're strongly leaning in not taking the longest amount of time to get each installment released, so doing it in three "large chunks" or parts is unlikely. They realize that would be a massive undertaking and would take a long time.

 

[Smoothie King]

I'm quoting the FFVII Remake Ultimania.



Given Nomura and Kitase's words, it looks like they're strongly leaning in not taking the longest amount of time to get each installment released, so doing it in three "large chunks" or parts is unlikely. They realize that would be a massive undertaking and would take a long time.

I don’t see how three large chunks would take any longer than five smaller chunks; particularly if a smaller chunk takes four + years to release. At some point they have to realize that this project is going to take longer than ten years from when it was announced. For me, it’s better to release less games, with more content in each installment, and longer development times than to string this along into a Life is Strange-esque serial.