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am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad? I mean I don't know any particularly annoying yaoi fans, but they're out there. Also, sparkly uke buttsex is a plague on society.

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It's not as if everyone who supports yaoi goes for the typical uke/seme relationship. And, the community seems pretty contradictory to what message they're trying to get across; being anti-gay and saying it's perverted to be gay is dumb as fuck. All forms of sparkly uke sex is a plague, not just yaoi.
 

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But it is infuriating when you come across a yaoi fangirl that strangely enough, supports yaoi but avoids yuri and straight pairings like the plague.
 

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I'd agree with most yaoi being a fetish though, since it nine times out of ten involves making a canonically straight character gay to fit their tastes.
 

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I'd agree with most yaoi being a fetish though, since it nine times out of ten involves making a canonically straight character gay to fit their tastes.
That's like making a straight character completely out of character in order to fit their tastes. I don't see how that's a fetish.
 

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am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad? I mean I don't know any particularly annoying yaoi fans, but they're out there. Also, sparkly uke buttsex is a plague on society.

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well being someone who regularly reads porn doujinshi, I can say this happens just as often with straight pairings where the guy is like 'HAHA I'MMA RAEP UR BUTT' to some chick. When you need lube.

Hell, it happens in romance novels, or they use lube that just wouldn't work (HONEY LUBE AND COCONUT MILK LUBE WHAT)
 

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That's like making a straight character completely out of character in order to fit their tastes. I don't see how that's a fetish.

I'm sorry what?

It's a fetish because they're taking something and making it into something else so they can fap to it. Though, I can see how they'd feel the need to do so since there are so few actually gay characters versus hetereo.

Also, what's wrong with it being a fetish? There's nothing wrong with fetishes, as long as no one is getting hurt.
 

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It wouldn't really be a fetish unless the person's just getting off solely to the fact that they're gay in the first place, rather than the actual characters and "bromance" if you will.

Which some yaoi fangirls do. But I don't think that's the case for all of them. It just depends. Some get off on it in regards to the romance, some get off on it just for the sex, and some get off on it due to the fact they like the control of making a straight character gay for their amusement. It just varies.
 

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It wouldn't really be a fetish unless the person's just getting off solely to the fact that they're gay in the first place, rather than the actual characters and "bromance" if you will.

Which some yaoi fangirls do. But I don't think that's the case for all of them. It just depends. Some get off on it in regards to the romance, some get off on it just for the sex, and some get off on it due to the fact they like the control of making a straight character gay for their amusement. It just varies.

Obviously, I just said that most of the yaoi stuff I see is people turning characters gay just to fap to them. Be it romantically or sexually, they need them to be gay to get off to fanart of them sucking each other off or whatever.

What's with the stigma around fetishes anyway?
 

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well being someone who regularly reads porn doujinshi, I can say this happens just as often with straight pairings where the guy is like 'HAHA I'MMA RAEP UR BUTT' to some chick. When you need lube.

Hell, it happens in romance novels, or they use lube that just wouldn't work (HONEY LUBE AND COCONUT MILK LUBE WHAT)

Do lecture us more on the nature of lubrication!
 

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am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad? I mean I don't know any particularly annoying yaoi fans, but they're out there. Also, sparkly uke buttsex is a plague on society.

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It wouldn't be so bad if the fuckwit seemed like she knew what she was talking about, lol. She thinks Yaoi is offensive to the gay community - but plenty of gay guys seem to be enjoying it just fine, lmao. She tries to tell us how gay guys SHOULD / REALLY act. But it's not true, you cannot speak for people in that manner. You can't say "This is the right way to be gay". That's fucking retarded. Fantasy fics, art, etc - are made to appeal to our PLEASURE. They're not going to make it realistic. No hentai or Doujinshi is EVER that way unless that's what it's going for. It's not sex ed, it's fucking fanwork.

I agree that there are really annoying Yaoi fans. But there are annoying fans EVERYWHERE. I can't stand girls that are seriously believe something like say... Axel x Roxas is actually canon, and Namine is slut. Actions like that are stupid, and I am in no way saying it is not.

And Yaoi is not a damn fetish. How is any type of relationship a fetish? That makes no sense, and is very distasteful to say so. You wouldn't see a couple holding hands and kissing and go "lol straight people fetish" now would you? Fetishes are not bad. But I don't think that is the right word at all.
 

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And Yaoi is not a damn fetish. How is any type of relationship a fetish? That makes no sense, and is very distasteful to say so. You wouldn't see a couple holding hands and kissing and go "lol straight people fetish" now would you? Fetishes are not bad. But I don't think that is the right word at all.

It all depends on how the person looks at it, tbh. For some, seeing any hot guys fucking gets them off. Period. It doesn't matter who they are, or what they are to each other. That's a fetishization. A fetish exists for everything, you know.

I don't think that's how it is for ALL yaoi fans, but I'm just merely commenting that it can be. Same for yuri/lesbians too.
 

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Alright. So you're telling me, that if I were to watch a straight couple do it and got turned on, that'd be a fetish too? Because your post makes it sound like it only counts for Yaoi and Yuri. And that's where I'm saying, why does it only count when it's two people of the same gender?
 

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And Yaoi is not a damn fetish. How is any type of relationship a fetish? That makes no sense, and is very distasteful to say so. You wouldn't see a couple holding hands and kissing and go "lol straight people fetish" now would you? Fetishes are not bad. But I don't think that is the right word at all.
You clearly aren't understanding what I said at all. I said most yaoi that involves making two straight characters gay so you can fap to them is a fetish.

I mean, the most common type of yaoi you see is two straight characters on top of each other so fangirls can squee. At least that's the type I usually see incidentally. Don't go looking for that shit.
 

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Interesting, so imagining a scenario where two straight characters are gay for each other, makes it a fetish? What about the reverse, what if you paired a gay character with a woman? Or what if you imagined the gay character turning straight? Would that also be counted as a fetish?

Is just plain canon Yaoi a fetish, or does it only count with what you imagine?
 

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Interesting, so imagining a scenario where two straight characters are gay for each other, makes it a fetish? What about the reverse, what if you paired a gay character with a woman? Or what if you imagined the gay character turning straight? Would that also be counted as a fetish?

Superimposing any kind of sexual trait onto a character that is not a part of who they are, to make them appealing to you, is what I'd call a fetish.
 

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It's a fetish because they're taking something and making it into something else so they can fap to it. Though, I can see how they'd feel the need to do so since there are so few actually gay characters versus hetereo.

Also, what's wrong with it being a fetish? There's nothing wrong with fetishes, as long as no one is getting hurt.
Can't the same be said for someone making a straight character completely OOC to their liking? Like you said, that'd be taking something and making it into something else. I can't see how that equates to a fetish; if you make it into yaoi because you fap to it, sure, but most yaoi fans I've come across actually try to make it into something that could work, relationship-wise.

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Superimposing any kind of sexual trait onto a character that is not a part of who they are, to make them appealing to you, is what I'd call a fetish.

So making a character OOC is a fetish?
 

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Can't the same be said for someone making a straight character completely OOC to their liking? Like you said, that'd be taking something and making it into something else. I can't see how that equates to a fetish; if you make it into yaoi because you fap to it, sure, but most yaoi fans I've come across actually try to make it into something that could work, relationship-wise.

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So making a character OOC is a fetish?


I don't really have anything else to say here, I've said what I meant. This isn't the place for it tbh, and I kinda want this thread to get back to it's original purpose.

I don't get the problem you people have with calling something a fetish, but meh.
 

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So making a character OOC is a fetish?
Making a character OOC is stupid, because then they wouldn't be that character anymore. Fetish or not it's still a pointless exercise.
 

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Dictionary.com said:
fet·ish   [fet-ish, fee-tish]
–noun
1. an object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or as having magical potency.
2. any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion: to make a fetish of high grades.
3. Psychology . any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.

Imagining a scenario where two straight characters are gay isn't a fetish. However, habitually doing so is another story, especially if you feel particularly strongly about it or it gets you sexually excited BECAUSE it's two straight characters doing things they normally wouldn't.

Personally, I think the entire thing is stupid as hell. Ffs, live and let live, people. Who gives a shit if people like yaoi because of the romance or the chance to see one guy take it up the ass? For God's sake, it's not bothering you unless they're shoving it in your face.

I also think it's stupid when people like yaoi, but find yuri disgusting, and vice versa.

Then again, I think it's stupid to get bent out of shape over things that are fucking works of fiction.

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As a footnote: it's no secret that I find dark hair to be a huge turn-on. It doesn't get me sexually excited - it's just what I like best. Yeah, it's a fetish, but it falls under the second definition of such.

Fetishes have a negative connotation and stigma, and it's absolutely fucking retarded.
 

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Who said yaoi was bad?

Also, why so serious? You basically said all I did.
 

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Most fanfic is pretty much fetishised. Even if there's no sexual stuff in it, it usually serves as emotional porn. Or something.

Also, the problem with calling yaoi a fetish is that it implies a certain amount of abnormality to it. A fetish is usually a sexual fixation on something one usually not regarded as sexual. So something like a foot fetish for example, it's a fetish because generally feet aren't regarded as something sexual.

Yaoi/slash is a genre that deals with sexuality, so the sexual component is ingrained. The problem with calling yaoi/slash a fetish is to imply gay sex is something abnormal to get aroused by. Which... the issues of that are quite obvious. Then again, yaoi=/=gay porn so idk I think I maybe blurring the issue.

If anything, I'd maybe call fictional porn/animated porn/pornfic/pornographic fanart fetishes. Yaoi/slash happens to be subgenre of that.
 

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also I still don't get why fetishes are so bad.

I have quite a few
The problem with calling yaoi/slash a fetish is to imply gay sex is something abnormal to get aroused by. Which... the issues of that are quite obvious. Then again, yaoi=/=gay porn so idk I think I maybe blurring the issue.

Fetishes aren't so abnormal in this day and age. It's nothing to get butthurt about anymore.
 
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