On the one hand, it's sort of hilarious that the side that doesn't grasp that switching over to Zack while Aerith is considering her feelings for Cloud is telling us about those feelings, but also that their official position is "Ignore the text, there's -special subtext-" is now the quiet part out loud.
Isn't Midnight Mistake when you get wrapped up in the moment and jump the relationship? The trope isn't something you necessarily regret, it's more like doing something you didn't mean to. Like the trope of waking up in bed next to your crush and not remembering how you got there.
I’m just keeping some of the more antagonistic ones I’ve seen because I can already smell that when part 3 drops, half these types will switch and claim “they always knew it was going to end with Cloud and Tifa lul”
Is this from the Clerith subreddit or the actual FFVII one? Because it's even more obvious in the remake that the story is developing Cloti.
I've seen several of them try and say this section indicates he doesn't have feelings for Tifa because "more than feelings for Tifa" MUST mean he doesn't have feelings for her, not that his adolescent desire to be a cool guy for her overwhelms him for a bit.
Regardless of whatever part 3 does, social channels are going to be wild. Not really looking forward to that…
It's the Cleriths one but it was because the person who said this came over and wrote stuff onto my post on the Cloti Reddit with me discussing how Clerith ending can't work. Then I check their comments and they post stuff like this everyday? So like a bit scummy to come onto the Cloti Reddit when you can't even correct misinformation on theirs or discuss anything without getting banned if it doesn't apply to clerith. Like a legit echo chamber
It’s very Twilight Zone-esque when I read stuff like this. Why grasp a hidden meaning when it’s so in your face?
I’ve just come to the conclusion that some people don’t treat scenes as part of a whole story and instead as isolated moments. I always ask myself if an observation is narratively consistent with other parts/aspects of the story. If it creates a contradiction or makes a character look scummy, then I’m likely incorrect or I have more thinking to do.
They legit think there is one intended playthrough that you can only achieve if you only favour Aerith in the whole game and that all other playthroughs are wrong and out of character, and you are punished for picking those ones. I have to ask how disrespectful to developers and writer's are they?
Yeah, imo it’s closer to canon to do everything and that’s why they tell you to watch all the dates because there’s important characterization with all of them right before things go downhill fast at the ToA to the end of Rebirth.
I disagree. Tifa was trying to confess there. And it shows in Rebirth.
This is exactly how I treat the story entirely. Even if it’s regarding Cloud and Tifa, I don’t care about isolated moments. There is a story being told, a whole narrative, and it just so happens that a major and very important part of that is the feelings Cloud and Tifa share.
Which is interesting because if you favor Aerith and do her side quests, then yes, you have that option to create something for yourself there. However in the concrete story you can’t change Sephiroth’s fixation on Tifa, Gongaga, or the dream at the end. Which Gongaga reveals things for both CT and ZA, and I’d argue the final date reveals things for ZA as well.
That’s what’s telling to me in Rebirth, to your point. In the original, I could see it going towards a confession or her trying to gently bring up his mental state. When it came time for a remake however…
People often forget it, but Tifa brings her doubts about his true identity to Cloud in Cosmo Canyon:
Hence her date being the only one interrupted by fireworks in OG
What I think might be interesting is if Tifa meets Merle while she's party leader in part 3 while she's looking for Cloud and Merle is looking for Leslie.
The idea of a guy hellbent on reuniting with his love just feels Zerith-y I guess. And did Leslie not meet Aerith in wall market or am I remembering wrong?
True he did but his quests never involved her.
I mean, unless Part 3 goes mask off and shows them clearly happy together in the future, they’ll just default to ACC talking points.
They really just spin a wheel and decide what they're going to whine about that day based on it, don't they?
And you don't tell people you're a family if you aren't one.
That sound's pretty much how many otome games and Visual Novels work. Just that you have to absolutely play through all routes (in most cases) to unlock the true route. A pretty interesting concept which isn't even part of FFVII though. So I don't understand why some people pretend that is was implemented in the game.
They must be running out of arguments, haha.