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Danseru-kun, While you were pointing out that Barret's observation is optional (even though Dismantled makes it canon) did you know 4 of the 6 reasons you were giving to show Cloud cares for Tifa during disc 1 were also optional? Either you didn't know your reasons were optional, or you...

Usually the only time you hope someone likes you is if you like them back. Is it that hard of a concept to grasp? You are again ignoring the "wavers" quote. And the context before Cloud's conversation with Marlene -- Cloud agreeing to go on a date with Aerith, thinking she is physically...

You might not believe Dismanlted is canon, but at least I have some sort of evidence to support that Barret's observation is canon. What's funny is that you continually pointed out that Barret's observation is optional while at the same time using this *OPTIONAL* quote to prove Cloud cared for...

Danseru-kun, I take it you are willing to concede that 4 of your 6 reasons showing Cloud cares for Tifa during disc 1 are optional? In fact, not only are 4 of the 6 optional, but some of them don't even tell us how Cloud, himself, feels. And because this quote has been used several times to...

One can argue that Cloud would have decided to rescue Tifa on his own and without Aerith. But there's no way to prove it. The only thing Cloud admits to is wanting to go back to Tifa's bar. Based on what we know from the scrip, it was Cloud's concern for Aerith's safety that convinced him to...

Let's look at the scrip: Aerith: "Hey, this looks like the Don's mansion. I'll go take a look. I'll tell Tifa about you." [Aerith is the one who decides to rescue Tifa] Cloud: "No!! You can't!!" [Cloud tells Aerith not to go in because he knows that it's a dangerous place for a young woman]...

Cloud expresses a desire to go to Tifa's bar. Cloud never says he wants to rescue her from Don's mansion. Once Cloud realizes Tifa has been captured, Cloud admits to two roadblocks that would prevent him from rescuing Tifa: 1. "being a man" 2. busting in would "cause too much commotion"...

Some scenes have official/canon versions. Example 1: Cloud and crew take the stairs when they infiltrate the Shinra headquarters: Therefore, this conversation takes place in the stairwell: Example 2: When Marlene tells Cloud Aerith likes him, Cloud responds, "Let’s hope so". Cloud...

DISCLAIMER: Danseru-kun is using these 6 reasons to prove Cloud cared for Tifa during disc 1, so I'd like to have a discussion with her about it. I'm not really interested in getting a million responses. So unless your response is genuine and not disrespectful, please don't respond. Thanks...

Trying to get to everyone's response as quickly as I can! I'd really like to hear more thoughts on what SE's intent was for including a wedding prediction between Cloud and Aerith?

I'm comparing Cloud and Tifa's relationship to how SE has portrayed other main FF couples. I'm not making the claim that Cloud and Aerith are in a committed relationship, so the burden of proof is on C/T supporters to prove that the mutual feelings they expressed turned into a romantic...

Mock me all you want...but... No one has yet to answer my question: how could a wedding prediction become "MORE PAINFUL" after Aerith's death if Cloud never had romantic feelings for Aerith in the first place? If Cloud never had romantic feelings for Aerith in the first place, a marriage...

How could a wedding prediction become "more painful" if Cloud never had romantic feelings for Aerith? If Cloud never had romantic feelings for Aerith, a marriage would have *NEVER* been possible between Cloud and Aerith. Therefore, it doesn't make sense that this prediction would become "more...

I posted my last post before I read your response. All-in-all, I agree with you. That's why I don't understand why this website claims Cloti is canon. So I look forward to reading your LTD post in the near future. And I'd just like to make this clear: I understand I don't need to downplay...

Evidence from SE that Cloud had a romantic bond with Aerith: 1. If Cloud Strife did not love Aerith, how could a wedding prediction become "more painful" after her death? The only way a wedding prediction would become "more painful" is if there was a basis for which a wedding could happen...

I'm simply saying that this was yet another example of SE showing us that Cloud and Aerith were forming a special bond.

All I'm saying is that Barret's observation was meant to highlight that Cloud's behavior seemed to be changing because of Aerith, a woman he was starting to form a "special bond" with. And what's the problem with thinking certain pieces of dialogue are significant or intentional? It seems that...

Then we have a difference of opinion. There were two things going on simultaneously: 1. Barret's shifting view of Cloud 2. Cloud and Aerith forming a special bond I believe SE was trying to kill two birds with one stone -- show that Barret was starting to think differently about Cloud while...

It is clear that SE was starting to show us, through various events, that Cloud and Aerith were starting to form a "special bond". Barret's observation can be both about his character development and another signal from SE that Cloud and Aerith were forming a "special bond".