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  1. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    My bad. I read somewhere where it was supposed to be a year. My point is, two months or two years, Cloud managed on his own for a while, in which time he needed to eat and find shelter. My logic shows that Tifa had all the kids in the neighborhood that wanted to play with her, and excluded...
  2. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    Cloud made it to the city on his own. I think the timeline shows that he was on his own for almost a year between Zack's death and meeting Tifa in the train yard. I think it's safe to say that Zack's death upset Cloud and that Cloud believed he was a former x-soldier, and Tifa never called him...
  3. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    Mind if I put my two cents in over my lunch hour? Quoted for the truth. How could Cloud have carried his false-persona if someone didn't believe it? I don't think Tifa intentionally tried to hurt him, but you have to admit she didn't exactly instill much confidence in him when Sephiroth...
  4. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    He can't see her face until he decides to start fighting again. He forgives himself - pretty straight forward, isn't it? Conveniently forgetting Barrett... AGAIN. Seriously, you forgot the context AND put feminism back a few decades by implying the only role Tifa can have is mothering...
  5. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    Short of necromancy, being dead makes having a relationship difficult. Cloud doesn't know where to find Aerith - but that doesn't mean he still doesn't love her. Speaking of, I've seen nothing here that proves Cloud doesn't love Aerith.
  6. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    First, Aerith is dead. Second, Cloud can't even see Aerith's face because of his guilt. Tifa is in the same bedroom as him. Context, please.
  7. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    I still think that instead of a book, if they wanted to show that Cloud is absolutely in love with Tifa, maybe they'd have an intimate moment in the hour-long movie. "Maiden" of the Planet has implies certain things. Cloud and Aerith have a bond different than he had with any other team...
  8. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    I would hope that the authors of any work think to respect their audience enough to draw sufficient conclusions without having a coloring book or speller tell them what they should already know. And, it wasn't revealed to the audience that Aerith's ribbon was given to her by Zack until Crisis...
  9. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    All I'm saying is that I don't think you need the Coles' Notes to understand the context of a video game. Go play Sonic the Hedgehog. Run Jump Spin is a plot you'll understand better.
  10. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    Which is more canon: The Star Wars Films, or a comic book adaptation? Both are official sources, but I shouldn't have to seek out one to understand the other. How come at the end of the game, he had the so-called girl of his dreams in his arms, and he spoke of Aerith? He could have said...
  11. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    If you want to debate, debate. If you want to post fanfictionalized ideals, at least be honest about it. Some of us depend on the actual game to make our decisions, thanks. I don't see why she'd want to, when she's being stalked across the internet.
  12. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    Not near as much liberties as this thread has taken from a few throw-away lines that were just translated. That blog isn't about attacking the arguments, it's about taking things out of context and making people look foolish. C/T Victory? Maybe you'd all like to get back to posting...
  13. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    All I'd like to ask is, if you're so confident, how come you're attacking the person, not the argument?
  14. Lonewolf

    LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

    Can't say it to her face, so you have to resort to this in pack behavior? I'm impressed...
  15. Lonewolf

    The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

    It's rather difficult to answer everyone. In regards to coming to a woman's aid if she were threatened sexually, you all miss my point. The creators could have chosen to show the scene in any way - they could have done without the innuendo. Tell me why they chose to have it if we're not to...
  16. Lonewolf

    The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

    My apologies for stopping to post when I have the chance. I'm a busy man, you know. I can stop, if you'd like. Also, there's a lot of posts and I have a hard time answering everyone. Defensive, much? All I'm saying is that the creators had to pick which scenes were important enough to...
  17. Lonewolf

    The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

    "I think I can meet her... there." Would be nice to give a, "Are you alright, my love?" if it were the case. Ask the creators why they chose to have Aerith die and Cloud bury her in fully rendered animation, whereas Tifa and Cloud falling into the lifestream looks... terrible. As for your...
  18. Lonewolf

    The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

    Tifa is the one who said Aerith brought Denzil to Cloud and Tifa - not Cloud. If CotL is third person limited narration, I'd say case of Tifa definately is as well. We never get Cloud's perspective on the matter, do we? Strange that Cloud and Aerith would have their own little segment at the...
  19. Lonewolf

    The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

    Aerith recognizes and acknowledges that Cloud isn't Zack right there - and learns the truth. She watches the lifestream sequence in Maiden, doesn't she? Given how late in the game the lifestream event happens, I think we're all going to have to accept that Cloud was always Cloud. He remembers...
  20. Lonewolf

    The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

    Clear focus? Last I checked, Cloud's been confirmed as Aerith's lover from CotL. From what the people in this thread have been making Crisis Core out to be and suggesting that SE is now pushing Zerith, it's rather surprising that the latest material confirms they had a relationship while Aerith...
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